No one refuted anything with facts.
The facts were long ago posted here in the WP when the raid on Gibson happened and included pictures of Obama's militants ion military gear with weapons in hand.
"Militants ion[sic] military gear"? I think you mean "Federal Marshalls" which are very much not "militants". Everyone disarmed your nonsense repeatedly. But I'll repeat for you: Gibson broke international smuggling law and were held accountable. That's how the law works.
Seriously, the time wasted explaining the world to you...
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Obama's militants
Just another instance of Mule attacking American soldiers while praising foreign entities, like a true traitor to the U.S.
No one refuted anything with facts.
The facts were long ago posted here in the WP when the raid on Gibson happened and included pictures of Obama's militants ion military gear with weapons in hand.
"Militants ion[sic] military gear"? I think you mean "Federal Marshalls" which are very much not "militants". Everyone disarmed your nonsense repeatedly. But I'll repeat for you: Gibson broke international smuggling law and were held accountable. That's how the law works.
Seriously, the time wasted explaining the world to you...
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Seriously you are the f'n idiot.
Obama militarized the EPA and sent them into Gibson's headquarters to harass his political opponents.
Seriously you are the f'n idiot.
Obama militarized the EPA and sent them into Gibson's headquarters to harass his political opponents.
They were FEDERAL MARSHALLS. Gibson SMUGGLED endangered wood and broke INTERNATIONAL LAW aimed at your favorite country, China. Every other US instrument maker is trying to be careful to not import illegal woods. Seriously buddy, you can have all the tantrums you want when people prove your insane, baseless assertions wrong, just please don't bother to type and post them.
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Seriously you are the f'n idiot.
Obama militarized the EPA and sent them into Gibson's headquarters to harass his political opponents.
They were FEDERAL MARSHALLS. Gibson SMUGGLED endangered wood and broke INTERNATIONAL LAW aimed at your favorite country, China. Every other US instrument maker is trying to be careful to not import illegal woods. Seriously buddy, you can have all the tantrums you want when people prove your insane, baseless assertions wrong, just please don't bother to type and post them.
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Try again junior.
The wood did not come from China and Martin Guitars did the same thing.
They were FEDERAL MARSHALLS. Gibson SMUGGLED endangered wood and broke INTERNATIONAL LAW aimed at your favorite country, China. Every other US instrument maker is trying to be careful to not import illegal woods. Seriously buddy, you can have all the tantrums you want when people prove your insane, baseless assertions wrong, just please don't bother to type and post them.
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Try again junior.
The wood did not come from China and Martin Guitars did the same thing.
Good Lord, dude, you have got to be a troll or dumb as a rock (or both. I'm thinking both). I wrote repeatedly, China is the biggest importer, i.e., smuggler, of illegal endangered woods from Africa and South America, and the international laws are put in place to stop them (I know you're a huge China fan, so this hurts to hear). Martin did not also smuggle pallets of illegal woods, Martin has carefully followed the new, admittedly tough, international preservation laws because they are also afraid of breaking them, as are many other instrument manufacturers. If you can't get the facts straight, at least try to understand what people here write. It will save you a lot of energy and egg on your face.
you are the f'n idiot
I only fire when fired upon
They were FEDERAL MARSHALLS. Gibson SMUGGLED endangered wood and broke INTERNATIONAL LAW aimed at your favorite country, China. Every other US instrument maker is trying to be careful to not import illegal woods. Seriously buddy, you can have all the tantrums you want when people prove your insane, baseless assertions wrong, just please don't bother to type and post them.
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Try again junior.
The wood did not come from China and Martin Guitars did the same thing.Good Lord, dude, you have got to be a troll or dumb as a rock (or both. I'm thinking both). I wrote repeatedly, China is the biggest importer, i.e., smuggler, of illegal endangered woods from Africa and South America, and the international laws are put in place to stop them (I know you're a huge China fan, so this hurts to hear). Martin did not also smuggle pallets of illegal woods, Martin has carefully followed the new, admittedly tough, international preservation laws because they are also afraid of breaking them, as are many other instrument manufacturers. If you can't get the facts straight, at least try to understand what people here write. It will save you a lot of energy and egg on your face.
Nice dance junior but you are wrong again.
The wood did not come from China and Martin Guitars did the same thing.
They were FEDERAL MARSHALLS. Gibson SMUGGLED endangered wood and broke INTERNATIONAL LAW aimed at your favorite country, China. Every other US instrument maker is trying to be careful to not import illegal woods. Seriously buddy, you can have all the tantrums you want when people prove your insane, baseless assertions wrong, just please don't bother to type and post them.
Try again junior.
The wood did not come from China and Martin Guitars did the same thing.Good Lord, dude, you have got to be a troll or dumb as a rock (or both. I'm thinking both). I wrote repeatedly, China is the biggest importer, i.e., smuggler, of illegal endangered woods from Africa and South America, and the international laws are put in place to stop them (I know you're a huge China fan, so this hurts to hear). Martin did not also smuggle pallets of illegal woods, Martin has carefully followed the new, admittedly tough, international preservation laws because they are also afraid of breaking them, as are many other instrument manufacturers. If you can't get the facts straight, at least try to understand what people here write. It will save you a lot of energy and egg on your face.
Nice dance junior but you are wrong again.
The wood did not come from China and Martin Guitars did the same thing.
Holy. Hell. Do you not understand what words like "from" and "importer" mean? Am I in a really bad Abbott & Costello routine or are you really that thick? Here it is written out simple for you one last time:
ENDANGERED WOOD COMES FROM: South America and Africa.
MAJOR ILLEGAL IMPORTER (means wood comes INTO their country): China
A COMPANY THAT ALSO ILLEGALLY IMPORTED FROM S AMERICA & AFRICA: Gibson
A COMPANY THAT IS CAREFUL NOT TO IMPORT ILLEGAL WOOD: Martin
"I'm so annoyed. I'm so distraught by this," said Chris Martin, chairman and CEO of C.F. Martin and Co., which uses rosewood in 200 models of acoustic guitar, some played by Eric Clapton, Ed Sheeran, Sting and other stars. The company's logistics staff estimates it spends 40 percent of its time dealing with the new regulations.
Fearful that Africa and Asia were losing rosewood forests, governments adopted the rules to stem the flow of smuggled rosewood to China's luxury furniture manufacturers. But the restrictions have also hurt companies that use relatively tiny amounts of the wood in guitars, clarinets and oboes.
They were FEDERAL MARSHALLS. Gibson SMUGGLED endangered wood and broke INTERNATIONAL LAW aimed at your favorite country, China. Every other US instrument maker is trying to be careful to not import illegal woods. Seriously buddy, you can have all the tantrums you want when people prove your insane, baseless assertions wrong, just please don't bother to type and post them.
Try again junior.
The wood did not come from China and Martin Guitars did the same thing.Good Lord, dude, you have got to be a troll or dumb as a rock (or both. I'm thinking both). I wrote repeatedly, China is the biggest importer, i.e., smuggler, of illegal endangered woods from Africa and South America, and the international laws are put in place to stop them (I know you're a huge China fan, so this hurts to hear). Martin did not also smuggle pallets of illegal woods, Martin has carefully followed the new, admittedly tough, international preservation laws because they are also afraid of breaking them, as are many other instrument manufacturers. If you can't get the facts straight, at least try to understand what people here write. It will save you a lot of energy and egg on your face.
Nice dance junior but you are wrong again.
The wood did not come from China and Martin Guitars did the same thing.
Holy. Hell. Do you not understand what words like "from" and "importer" mean? Am I in a really bad Abbott & Costello routine or are you really that thick? Here it is written out simple for you one last time:
ENDANGERED WOOD COMES FROM: South America and Africa.
MAJOR ILLEGAL IMPORTER (means wood comes INTO their country): China
A COMPANY THAT ALSO ILLEGALLY IMPORTED FROM S AMERICA & AFRICA: Gibson
A COMPANY THAT IS CAREFUL NOT TO IMPORT ILLEGAL WOOD: Martin
"I'm so annoyed. I'm so distraught by this," said Chris Martin, chairman and CEO of C.F. Martin and Co., which uses rosewood in 200 models of acoustic guitar, some played by Eric Clapton, Ed Sheeran, Sting and other stars. The company's logistics staff estimates it spends 40 percent of its time dealing with the new regulations.
Fearful that Africa and Asia were losing rosewood forests, governments adopted the rules to stem the flow of smuggled rosewood to China's luxury furniture manufacturers. But the restrictions have also hurt companies that use relatively tiny amounts of the wood in guitars, clarinets and oboes.
Irrelevant crap.
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.
Irrelevant crap.
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.
Ha, ok fine, facts and the law are irrelevant I guess. Enjoy your rhino horn soup!
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.
I thought he was soft and wore mom jeans? Which is it?
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.I thought he was soft and wore mom jeans? Which is it?
Clearly he's a Fender guy. But like, Chinese-made Fenders.
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.I thought he was soft and wore mom jeans? Which is it?
Clearly he's a Fender guy. But like, Chinese-made Fenders.
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.I thought he was soft and wore mom jeans? Which is it?
Clearly he's a Fender guy. But like, Chinese-made Fenders.
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.
Uh oh, Mulebot is skipping. Someone hit "reset".
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.I thought he was soft and wore mom jeans? Which is it?
Clearly he's a Fender guy. But like, Chinese-made Fenders.
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.Uh oh, Mulebot is skipping. Someone hit "reset".
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.
Obama had Gibson raided by jack-booted and armed feds purely for political retribution.
Martin was not treated with such heavy-handed tactics.
The Feds failed to raid a lot of businesses that didn't illegally import rare, endangered Madagascar woods.
Go figure.
