Not surprised at all Jerry - Seems to me If you are a member of the KKK you are participating. Refreshing honesty and courage to share that., good job posting outside the Overton Window unlike some closet nazis around here. Weird how the biggest one vanished right around the time that Maryland Coast Guard guy got busted. Coincidence I guess.
So yeah, I have no idea who or what you are or what KKK stuff you support. If I had been signed up to the KKK as a kid I think I would.make a point of formally terminating membership. Then again it would be a great way to get real intel, if you could keep a straight face at their parties.
The whole Democrats were into slavery thing is really dumb. Democrats have never been saints. Worst was LBJ, incredibly irresponsible got so many GIs killed in Viet Nam.
Lincoln wasn't no great Republican defender of Liberty either - probably the most tyrannical , overrode the Constitution more than any other president, he was the only real dictator we have had except maybe FDR.
I found out when I was 19 (1971) and undergoing my background checks (went to college under contract to the Army) for my security clearances.
Of course I had checked that I wasn't a member of any subversive groups listed below that line. Got the interview and was questioned by several CID agents. They told ME what had happened and they had run into it before in a lot of southern colleges.
Found out that candidates went down the census/voter rolls and just listed the names of all the kids as new members.
I guess that was to swell the "membership" numbers.
My question is, why are you not surprised? Have you ever seen anything from me in a racist nature?
My question is, why are you not surprised? Have you ever seen anything from me in a racist nature?
No answer yet? Come on, you usually have an answer within a day.
I think Ellen has the right idea. Let it be.
In "Theory"...Let's see her practice what she preaches and have President Trump on her show.
Hey Jerry no never seen you post racist at all, at least nothing as bad as my "Whitestock" which I will never live down! - sorry that did sound harsh, am trying to remember what the hell I meant - it wasnt hostile or judgemental I know that, let me try to figure it out.
Ok, yeah, reread that: I wasnt surprised that a kid back in the 50s South got signed up in a Democrat KKK promo drive. Its part of our culture - sh!t man I got all kinds of deep family heritage ties to ALL OF IT - the best and worst. From the very beginning brother! Real "Evil Empire" stuff. I can't cast stones lol.
Was glad you felt comfortable enough to post that here and not feel like you would get crucified.
Still, hahaha those Army intel guys must have been checkin up on you!
Hey, seriously, distant memory, did you ever get those recruiting letters from the Rosicrucians? I used to get them in jr high, real weird.
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Slavery was supported by Democrats
Its beyond ignorant, to think a Democrat of 1860 is the same as a democrat of today. 😛
The sad part is the ignorance portrayed by those out there who do not know history and are "Surprised" to find out that the Party that ended slavery was the Republicans....
That is ignorance rearing its ugly head and is the reason people need to reminded of the facts, regardless of "old" they are.
The sad part is the ignorance portrayed by those out there who do not know history and are "Surprised" to find out that the Party that ended slavery was the Republicans...
True. Also the ignorance portrayed by those who do not know history and are "surprised" to find out that Democrats were against Federal tyranny and had the balls to throw down against the Federal government, and that Lincoln the Republcan was an ironfisted dictator who rode roughshod over states' rights to force the Union
The sad part is the ignorance portrayed by those out there who do not know history and are "Surprised" to find out that the Party that ended slavery was the Republicans...
True. Also the ignorance portrayed by those who do not know history and are "surprised" to find out that Democrats were against Federal tyranny and had the balls to throw down against the Federal government, and that Lincoln the Republcan was an ironfisted dictator who rode roughshod over states' rights to force the Union
Fair enough (Even though the result was Victory, Union and the end of Slavery).....
Which one of these two points do you think gets the most play from the Media?
The poor rural red state Bible Belt and inner cities are such easy targets, and are true underdogs in this country.
These are the very people who know it was the Republican Party that was responsible for the ending of Slavery. Interesting, isn't it?...That the "Poor & rural" remember history....and the rest have to be reminded.
Cant answer your media question BigV, I really don't pay much attention to media. My guess is the media in general doesn't cover much beyond last week or so.
And skyD you got to the "crux of the biscuit" I think: Class Warfare. Which is never going to be seriously considered, let alone challenged in this country, due to the stranglehold of our strict neo-feudal corporate technocracy. Also the last time Class Struggle was openly addressed it led to the abyss of Communism, which only made things worse.
Class Warfare.
Aha...The "crux"....
Let us cut to the chase and the ultimate dividers, opportunity and education. With inculcation, comes opportunity. The whole education system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, start there and watch the magic happen.
Re-evolution! Dangerous talk me droogie droogs. An enlightened populace might build Utopia - which would destroy the castles of elite privilege.
They will fight like cornered rats for their last pitiful taste of caviar.
The thing that scares them the most is when we find common ground. Just watch, that is when the trolls activate and kill the thread with nonsense - although they may have cut funding to the Government Information Nonsense Algorithm. Good test thread.
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It was called the southern strategy. Every time people bring up the fact that the Republican Party was against slavery, yada, yada, yada, I always have to gently remind them of the Southern Strategy. They were against it until they were not against it. The democrats of those times flocked to the Republican Party and never left. I grew up in the south and watched it with my own eyes, the great white flight, the KKK, the moaning about black people and welfare. You can still hear that one today only it is black people and food stamps. Same old rhetoric different day.
In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right.
The "Southern Strategy" refers primarily to "top down" narratives of the political realignment of the South which suggest that Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white Southerners' racial grievances in order to gain their support.[5] This top-down narrative of the Southern Strategy is generally believed to be the primary force that transformed Southern politics following the civil rights era. This view has been questioned by historians such as Matthew Lassiter, Kevin M. Kruse and Joseph Crespino, who have presented an alternative, "bottom up" narrative, which Lassiter has called the "suburban strategy". This narrative recognizes the centrality of racial backlash to the political realignment of the South, but suggests that this backlash took the form of a defense of de facto segregation in the suburbs rather than overt resistance to racial integration and that the story of this backlash is a national rather than a strictly Southern one.
The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South", particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years. In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a national civil rights organization, for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.
True, and thanks for spotlighting the shift. Also true that the Great White Civil Rights Knight in Shining Armor Democrat LBJ was more than obliging to hand crank the meat grinder of black youth in Viet Nam.
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btw hi pattyg, you always appear right when the conversation starts to make sense
They were against it until they were not against it.
You have just accurately described politics from the beginning of time.
Re-evolution! Dangerous talk me droogie droogs. An enlightened populace might build Utopia - which would destroy the castles of elite privilege.
They will fight like cornered rats for their last pitiful taste of caviar.
Very true. But we need social classes to keep the engine running, and it's the natural course of things as we've seen in civilizations throughout history. There is always a noble ruling class and then the working class common folk. The masterminds and leaders sit among the nobles, and the laborers are the laborers. Without this structure, how can cities and countries get built and run themselves? All levels of labor is how.
Our school systems need plenty of work, but that takes quality difference makers in the education workforce, and how many of these folks are willing to settle for a teacher's salary? The difference makers want more and get it elsewhere. Until we incentive difference makers to want to teach, then it will be the same as it's always been. That's why it's up to parents to do a better job at teaching character in their children. The schools are strapped as it is teaching the basic subjects that are needed for the U.S. to be competitive in innovative technology and industries.
I'm tired of hearing people make excuses and blame generations, as if there aren't a ton of millennial tech CEOs changing the landscape, or killing it on Wall Street. We know there are plenty of 20-somethings that are making a fortune, so it's not about when you were born - it's about how you were raised.
Well thought out, thanks. And look at that, we agree.
True, and thanks for spotlighting the shift. Also true that the Great White Civil Rights Knight in Shining Armor Democrat LBJ was more than obliging to hand crank the meat grinder of black youth in Viet Nam.
I did not live in the Garden District so in my neighborhood they were cranking out all the middle-low class kids with equal intensity as is always the case with the draft. My husband actually volunteered when he was 17 years old and my cousin never came back.
Sorry to hear it - and thanks to those who served. That one sure took a bite out of us. A big ragged dirty bite that never healed quite right.
2) Democrats were extremely racist in the 50's and 60's. Example: A Democrat running for a city council seat promised that if a parent pledged to vote for him (1955) he would give all their children life time membership in the local KKK.
Therefore you should know that you've been posting back and forth with a lifetime member (non-participating) of the League Of The South chapter of the KKK since 1955. I don't remember ever going to any meetings though.Because your family pledged to vote for some random no-name city council politician that endorsed the KKK, then “Democrats were extremely racist in the 50s and 60s”? That’s one helluva spin, and the ultimate projection.
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If you had lived here, you would know what happened.
"The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man. Let me explain what I mean by the white liberal. In America there is no such thing as Democrat or Republican anymore. In America you have liberals and conservatives. The only people living in the past who think in terms of I’m a Democrat or Republican, is the American Negro. He’s the one that runs around bragging about party affiliation. He’s the one that sticks to the Democrat or sticks to the Republican. But white people are divided into two groups, liberals and conservative. The Democrats who are conservative, vote with the Republicans who are conservative. The Democrats who are liberal vote with the Republicans that are liberal. The white liberal aren’t white people who are for independence, who are moral and ethical in their thinking. They are just a faction of white people that are jockeying for power. The same as the white conservative is a faction of white people that are jockeying for power. They are fighting each other for power and prestige, and the one that is the football in the game is the Negro, 20 million black people. A political football, a political pawn, an economic football, and economic pawn. A social football, a social pawn. The liberal elements of whites are those who have perfected the art of selling themselves to the Negro as a friend of the Negro. Getting sympathy of the Negro, getting the allegiance of the Negro, and getting the mind of the Negro. Then the Negro sides with the white liberal, and the white liberal use the Negro against the white conservative. So that anything that the Negro does is never for his own good, never for his own advancement, never for his own progress, he’s only a pawn in the hands of the white liberal. The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros, and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked, or deceived by the white liberal then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man. The only way that our problem will be solved is when the black man wakes up, clean himself up, stand on his own feet and stop begging the white man, and take immediate steps to do for ourselves the things that we have been waiting on the white man to do for us. Once we do for self then we will be able to solve our own problems’ "The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox. One is the wolf, the other is a fox. No matter what, they’ll both eat you."
Malcolm X
The sad part is the ignorance portrayed by those out there who do not know history and are "Surprised" to find out that the Party that ended slavery was the Republicans...
True. Also the ignorance portrayed by those who do not know history and are "surprised" to find out that Democrats were against Federal tyranny and had the balls to throw down against the Federal government, and that Lincoln the Republcan was an ironfisted dictator who rode roughshod over states' rights to force the Union
Not to mention the suspension of habeas corpus, the crack down on the First Amendment, and the arrest of the entire Maryland legislature whom he held hostage until they voted to stay with the Union. allowed the military to arrest and try people for arbitrary reasons and without the civil rights afforded to them, and-ordered the recapture and delivery of slaves freed by the Union army back to their owners.
True, and thanks for spotlighting the shift. Also true that the Great White Civil Rights Knight in Shining Armor Democrat LBJ was more than obliging to hand crank the meat grinder of black youth in Viet Nam.
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One comedy show (Laugh In) had a skit where an LBJ look alike came on and said vyetmam, vetnam, veyetnam, damn I can't pronounce that. And when did these guys decide to call themselves balack? I just learned how to say neeegro.
(Yes I did the spelling as he said it.)
True, and thanks for spotlighting the shift. Also true that the Great White Civil Rights Knight in Shining Armor Democrat LBJ was more than obliging to hand crank the meat grinder of black youth in Viet Nam.
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One comedy show (Laugh In) had a skit where an LBJ look alike came on and said vyetmam, vetnam, veyetnam, damn I can't pronounce that. And when did these guys decide to call themselves balack? I just learned how to say neeegro.
(Yes I did the spelling as he said it.)
I wonder if LBJ whined about it like Trump whines about SNL. I'm guessing no.
True, and thanks for spotlighting the shift. Also true that the Great White Civil Rights Knight in Shining Armor Democrat LBJ was more than obliging to hand crank the meat grinder of black youth in Viet Nam.
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One comedy show (Laugh In) had a skit where an LBJ look alike came on and said vyetmam, vetnam, veyetnam, damn I can't pronounce that. And when did these guys decide to call themselves balack? I just learned how to say neeegro.
(Yes I did the spelling as he said it.)
LBJ’s successor, Richard Nixon, himself made an appearance on Laugh In - he was funny too, in how he said “Sock...It...To Me”
That put me in AOK w/Nixon - everyone who was anyone guested on it, even John “The Duke” Wayne - could use a dose of Laugh In right now too, believe me - Arte Johnson in his German accent, “Verrrrrry interesting......
Had to add that when I saw Jerry’s post - topic, federal judges rule...executive powers
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In case some of the young bloods here don't know what we're talking about:
True, and thanks for spotlighting the shift. Also true that the Great White Civil Rights Knight in Shining Armor Democrat LBJ was more than obliging to hand crank the meat grinder of black youth in Viet Nam.
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One comedy show (Laugh In) had a skit where an LBJ look alike came on and said vyetmam, vetnam, veyetnam, damn I can't pronounce that. And when did these guys decide to call themselves balack? I just learned how to say neeegro.
(Yes I did the spelling as he said it.)
I wonder if LBJ whined about it like Trump whines about SNL. I'm guessing no.
Don't know. LBJ was already out of office and out of the media spotlight. Back then once someone was out of office it went " LBJ who?" at the news outlets. Usually the only time you heard anything about ex-presidents back then was if they had a serious illness, or died.
Oh, we’re doing the “your party has to own all of American history” thing again.
David Duke ran for President as a Republican.
All Republicans are racists. Well, no, maybe not. Maybe not all. But if you are a racist, you probably vote Republican.
Extensive discussion of The Southern Strategy, anyone?
Then there’s the Roy Moore candidacy supported by millions of Republicans and many conservative pundits. Details not necessary.
Hell yeah, let’s talk about history. Alternative facts and all.
Oh, we’re doing the “your party has to own all of American history” thing again.
David Duke ran for President as a Republican.
All Republicans are racists. Well, no, maybe not. Maybe not all. But if you are a racist, you probably vote Republican.
Extensive discussion of The Southern Strategy, anyone?
Then there’s the Roy Moore candidacy supported by millions of Republicans and many conservative pundits. Details not necessary.
Hell yeah, let’s talk about history. Alternative facts and all.
Since you didn't quote the poster you were referencing to, I'll ask the question.
Who was that directed to?
Oh, we’re doing the “your party has to own all of American history” thing again.
David Duke ran for President as a Republican.
All Republicans are racists. Well, no, maybe not. Maybe not all. But if you are a racist, you probably vote Republican.
Extensive discussion of The Southern Strategy, anyone?
Then there’s the Roy Moore candidacy supported by millions of Republicans and many conservative pundits. Details not necessary.
Hell yeah, let’s talk about history. Alternative facts and all.
Great news if you live in Alabama & are a supporter of the GOP. Roy Moore is running again. This is what make that party "grand".
Question - Is Roy allowed back in shopping malls, or is he still banned to keep him away from young girls.
True, and thanks for spotlighting the shift. Also true that the Great White Civil Rights Knight in Shining Armor Democrat LBJ was more than obliging to hand crank the meat grinder of black youth in Viet Nam.
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One comedy show (Laugh In) had a skit where an LBJ look alike came on and said vyetmam, vetnam, veyetnam, damn I can't pronounce that. And when did these guys decide to call themselves balack? I just learned how to say neeegro.
(Yes I did the spelling as he said it.)
I wonder if LBJ whined about it like Trump whines about SNL. I'm guessing no.
Don't know. LBJ was already out of office and out of the media spotlight. Back then once someone was out of office it went " LBJ who?" at the news outlets. Usually the only time you heard anything about ex-presidents back then was if they had a serious illness, or died.
Yes there is instant communication nowadays, but not as instant as word of LBJ’s death, which occurred during live national TV news broadcasts & reported then & there - it came 2 days after Nixon’s re-election swearing in - then later that nite, lost some $ when Geo. Foreman KO’d Smokin Joe Frazier
Well the subject was history right? 😮 - btw loved that Laugh In clip Jerry - can you imagine the field day those comedians would have with these political threads 😛
At last count there were 17 Democratic POTUS candidates, it all shakes out a year from today, let’s see how it goes
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