What should have been done to help them?
Do your own research, junior. The left is not capable of sourcing factual data so.you throw a temper tantrum. Run to your safe place and cry, son.
The best way to help desperate homeless families in California is to pretend you give a sh*t and use their plight as a stick to hit California in general.
Increasing calls for most of California to break away from the sanctuary slums:
Are some states headed for Splitsville? Movement grows to allow sections of states to break away
www.foxnews.com
When Donald Trump was elected, a lot of people in California signed a petition supporting the state’s secession from the U.S. It was hard to take the movement seriously—didn’t we fight a war over this?
But there is another secession movement in California, and elsewhere in America, that is getting genuine attention from political pundits. While it may be unlikely to succeed, the idea of intra-state secession—a section of a state splitting off to form its own state—has been growing in popularity.
And there’s even a Constitutional procedure for doing it.
In recent decades, the political differences between rural areas and metropolitan areas seem to have become more severe. This has caused political splits in certain states, where, often, those rural areas, with lower populations, feel stifled by their city brethren.
As Joel Kotkin, a fellow at Chapman University in Orange, Calif. and author of The Human City:
Urbanism ForThe Rest Of Us, tells Fox News, “The worst thing in the world to be is the red part of a blue state.”
He looks at his home state of California and sees numerous clashes between the coastal cities of San Francisco and Los Angeles, and the more conservative counties in the interior. This has led to the New California Movement, already organized in 35 counties, seeking to create two states where there was one. Other plans have California splitting into three states, or even six. It should be noted that these new states would still be bigger than many on the East Coast, and more populous than many in the West.
Kotkin feels this movement is driven by policies like the $15 minimum wage, “which makes sense in San Francisco, but doesn’t make sense in Fresno.” He adds those running California are “fundamentally authoritarian” with “not a lot of tolerance for any kind of economic or political diversity.” As he puts it, their attitude is “’We know the truth, we know what’s right, and it has to apply to everyone.”
Kotkin further notes it’s not just California where this blue versus red battle is brewing, but up the West Coast, where eastern Oregon battles against the policies of Portland, and eastern Washington against Seattle. For that matter, there’s Chicago against downstate Illinois, and New York City versus upstate New York. And the policy divisions are not just economic, but often traditional versus progressive politics regarding issues such as marijuana, gun control and the environment.
This is why there’s a movement in New York for upstate to split from downstate. As Republican state senator Joseph Robach puts it, “We’re completely overwhelmed...by the policies of New York City.” In 2009 and 2011 he introduced bills to hold a referendum on secession. And in 2015 there was a rally in favor of carving out a new state, supported by more than a dozen groups frustrated by the policies of Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo.
All this secession talk has captured the notice of University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds, who recently put out a new paper, “Splitsylvania: State Secession and What to Do About It.”
He notes that Article IV, section 3 of the Constitution allows for new states to be admitted into the union, though no new state can be formed within an old state without the consent of the state legislature as well as Congress. That’s a pretty high hurdle. But, as Reynolds told Fox News, not insurmountable.
It’s been done before, but long ago. For example, Vermont split from New York in 1791, Maine split from Massachusetts in 1820, and West Virginia split from Virginia during the Civil War in 1863.
There haven’t been any states formed by secession in modern U.S. history.
What’s more, Americans seem to have gotten used to the idea of 50 states, with Hawaii the last admitted to the Union in 1959. As Reynolds points out, “for most of the country’s history we added a new state every couple of decades...now we act as if 50 is set in stone. There’s a plausible argument that we would be better off with more states. It would be more representative.”
While it would seem that state leaders wouldn’t want to give up power, Reynolds offers a scenario where politicians might greet the formation of a new entity. “If you’re a California politician, you spend a lot of time trying to fight your way to the top. And the trouble is it’s a really big state—there are a lot of other people trying to fight their way to the top...[If the state splits, there’s] a smaller pond, but you’re a big fish.”
More important than forming new states, however, Reynolds feels we should address the disputes that make citizens support secession. Part of the problem, he believes, goes back to the Supreme Court case “Reynolds v. Sims” (1964), which declared state legislatures (as opposed to the U.S. Senate) have to be apportioned according to population, not geographical area. As Reynolds explains, “under the old system, rural areas got more representation, and under the new system they got much less.” This has helped lead to the present-day situation where rural areas feel underserved.
Reynolds hopes there can be less dramatic solutions than secession, such as Congressional statutes (or in some cases executive orders) to ease the pressure. Reynolds thinks they have the Constitutional authority to remedy the situation, particularly under the Guarantee Clause, which states “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government.”
Reynolds points to civil rights laws, passed to protect unfairly treated minorities, as a model for how Congress might take action. He notes “most federal laws...are written to leave states the power to make stricter regulations, but if it seems like the burden...is falling disproportionately on a minority in a state that has no real political power...then I think it’s fair for the federal government to step in and protect them.” To Reynolds, this could mean laws limiting how far states can go regarding “the environment, firearms, wages and...things that people in rural areas are unhappy about.”
This may seem like extreme intervention to some, but it’s a lot less extreme than secession.
As Reynolds puts it, “when you have people talking about wanting to split from their state, and form a new one, there’s obviously some significant unhappiness, and if we can do things that are relatively low cost...to remedy it, I think probably we should. At least we should think about it.”
Yet another feeble attempt to create division and undermine the Union from the cyber psy-op troll.
Los Alamitos considers opting out of sanctuary law
https://www.scpr.org/news/2018/03/17/81743/los-alamitos-considers-opting-out-of-sanctuary-law/
He isn't falling for anything. He is a professional psy-op troll following command protocol, delivering scripted responses to his assigned social media targets.
Los Alamitos considers opting out of sanctuary law
https://www.scpr.org/news/2018/03/17/81743/los-alamitos-considers-opting-out-of-sanctuary-law/
Many of us here in California don't agree with the governor's stance on "sanctuary". That being said, as is the case with most of the country, immigration is complicated. It always has been and always will (next time you go to the grocery store Mule or when you go out to eat, remember who picks your food or who washes the dishes; you wouldn't last 30 minutes picking lettuce). And not all illegal immigrants are "rapists and murders"; plenty of regular American citizens fit that bill too.
Your infatuation with California cracks me up! If you do come visit, please spend your money (lots of porn here so I'm sure you'll have lots of fun)! CA has the 6th largest economy in the world and for the most part, as CA goes, the nations goes. The more the merrier! Cheers!
[Edited on 3/20/2018 by StratDal]
Well at least none of them are in California. I think most if not all are in states that support the president... imagine that...
[Edited on 3/21/2018 by StratDal]
Los Alamitos considers opting out of sanctuary law
https://www.scpr.org/news/2018/03/17/81743/los-alamitos-considers-opting-out-of-sanctuary-law/
Many of us here in California don't agree with the governor's stance on "sanctuary". That being said, as is the case with most of the country, immigration is complicated. It always has been and always will (next time you go to the grocery store Mule or when you go out to eat, remember who picks your food or who washes the dishes; you wouldn't last 30 minutes picking lettuce). And not all illegal immigrants are "rapists and murders"; plenty of regular American citizens fit that bill too.
Your infatuation with California cracks me up! If you do come visit, please spend your money (lots of porn here so I'm sure you'll have lots of fun)! CA has the 6th largest economy in the world and for the most part, as CA goes, the nations goes. The more the merrier! Cheers!
[Edited on 3/20/2018 by StratDal]
The angst in California over illegal immigration, sanctuary cities and the slums is coming from the California people as evidenced by local media.
Los Alamitos considers opting out of sanctuary law
https://www.scpr.org/news/2018/03/17/81743/los-alamitos-considers-opting-out-of-sanctuary-law/
Many of us here in California don't agree with the governor's stance on "sanctuary". That being said, as is the case with most of the country, immigration is complicated. It always has been and always will (next time you go to the grocery store Mule or when you go out to eat, remember who picks your food or who washes the dishes; you wouldn't last 30 minutes picking lettuce). And not all illegal immigrants are "rapists and murders"; plenty of regular American citizens fit that bill too.
Your infatuation with California cracks me up! If you do come visit, please spend your money (lots of porn here so I'm sure you'll have lots of fun)! CA has the 6th largest economy in the world and for the most part, as CA goes, the nations goes. The more the merrier! Cheers!
[Edited on 3/20/2018 by StratDal]
The angst in California over illegal immigration, sanctuary cities and the slums is coming from the California people as evidenced by local media.
Must be the corrupt liberal media that has no credibility. I know of no such angst.
Well at least none of them are in California. I think most if not all are in states that support the president... imagine that...
I'd probably be a cranky troll too if I couldn't reach my behind to wash. Stand in the shower and hope for erosion, then go vent on Whipping Post.
Well at least none of them are in California. I think most if not all are in states that support the president... imagine that...
I'd probably be a cranky troll too if I couldn't reach my behind to wash. Stand in the shower and hope for erosion, then go vent on Whipping Post.
lol! "People can you feel it..." 😛
Seems pretty unlikely California would split.
Hey, California can do anything they want within the confines of their laws. They should not however interfere or even undermine federal law, specifically when it comes to immigration. Unless of course they want to secede from the union.
You could read up on the State of Jefferson and see that the division of California has been worked on since the late 1930's.
Information on the new movement can be found at www.soj51.org.
Geography will sort it out. Northern Cal, Oregon, Colorado, we got the water.
Geography will sort it out. Northern Cal, Oregon, Colorado, we got the water.
Yep. If Jefferson becomes a reality, they can hold the rest of California hostage over water rights. New state, new agreements. I would suggest paying farmers to dam creeks as far up the watershed as possible and then moving the project south as needed. A whole lot of ponds and lakes bring in a lot of hunters and fishermen, not to mention water sports and vacationers during summer.
Recent fiction re the coming water war: The Water Knife
by Paolo Bacigalupi.
Moral of story, get out of AZ , SoCal while you still can.
All caps for emphasis, not 'yelling'.
Rural Whites are not running for jobs with Big Ag. It is MUCH MUCH easier to throw a political PITY PARTY than it is to get out and work.
IMMIGRANTS (illegal or not) are the backbone of the AG industry. Most of what is on your plate passed through the unskilled hands of a not-white person. I have seen harvests ROT and growers BEG for labor.
For DECADES.
White people won't take those jobs. Far easier to get welfare, pop pills, and b)(tch.
Immigrants are a lot better for bizness than slow, worthless white labor. FACT.
Ergo the H-2A Temporary Agricultural Workers program which is legal and well managed.
California citizens fight back against the far-left extremists:
Orange County votes to fight California's sanctuary city laws, joining sheriff's pushback
Officials in California's Orange County voted Tuesday to join a lawsuit from the Trump administration fighting the state's "sanctuary city" laws, hours after the county sheriff's department anounced its own methods of pushing back against the legislation aimed at protecting illegal immigrants.
Anti-'sanctuary state' movement picks up steam in Orange County
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-anti-sanctuary-movement-in-oc-20180327-story.html
Homeless encampment relocation plan has California residents outraged
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/26...-outraged.html
Don't put homeless shelter in our city, Huntington Beach officials say
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...321-story.html
[Edited on 3/28/2018 by Muleman1994]
You might notice that I do not care about Ohio or California.
quote:You might notice that I do not care about Ohio or California.
Right I know. How many of us, if we really didn't care about something, why would we be posting much about it?
quote:You might notice that I do not care about Ohio or California.
Right I know. How many of us, if we really didn't care about something, why would we be posting much about it?
if we really didn't care about something
Camouflage for dissension
quote:You might notice that I do not care about Ohio or California.
Right I know. How many of us, if we really didn't care about something, why would we be posting much about it?
if we really didn't care about something
Camouflage for dissension
"Camouflage For Dissension" Sounds like a great name for a band!
quote:You might notice that I do not care about Ohio or California.
Right I know. How many of us, if we really didn't care about something, why would we be posting much about it?
It is easy.
The Sanctuary Slums and illegal alien crime effects the entire country.
Fortunately many California communities are openly rejecting the sanctuary crap and are moving to take their State back form the far-left extremists.
So what you are saying is you don't care about California, just about how California politics affect the USA as a whole?
quote:You might notice that I do not care about Ohio or California.
Right I know. How many of us, if we really didn't care about something, why would we be posting much about it?
It is easy.
The Sanctuary Slums and illegal alien crime effects the entire country.
Fortunately many California communities are openly rejecting the sanctuary crap and are moving to take their State back form the far-left extremists.
The state isn't run by "far-left extremists". Obviously you're a victim of "fake news". And many Californians including me don't agree with the sanctuary status the governor and other leaders proclaimed. That being said, the "sanctuary slums and illegal alien crime" don't affect (not "effects") the entire country. It's just plain old poverty (ever been to an Indian reservation) and plain old crime (includes all citizens of all backgrounds and ethnicities) that affect the country.
Illegal immigrants have turned California into the American Nightmare
Newport to weigh possible stance against state’s ‘sanctuary’ law Tuesday
http://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/tn-dpt-me-nb-council-preview-20180406-story.html
That sure oughta teach a lesson to all those dirty damn sanctuary . . .
. . . cities run by Democrats and dead babies.
That sure oughta teach a lesson to all those dirty damn sanctuary . . .
. . . cities run by Democrats and dead babies.
So the racist and liar selectively edits portions from my posts.
Try getting off your a$$ and helping the people living in your State.
Why don't you get back in your closet and polish your luger, krautboy?
Los Alamitos considers opting out of sanctuary law
https://www.scpr.org/news/2018/03/17/81743/los-alamitos-considers-opting-out-of-sanctuary-law/
Many of us here in California don't agree with the governor's stance on "sanctuary". That being said, as is the case with most of the country, immigration is complicated. It always has been and always will (next time you go to the grocery store Mule or when you go out to eat, remember who picks your food or who washes the dishes; you wouldn't last 30 minutes picking lettuce). And not all illegal immigrants are "rapists and murders"; plenty of regular American citizens fit that bill too.
Your infatuation with California cracks me up! If you do come visit, please spend your money (lots of porn here so I'm sure you'll have lots of fun)! CA has the 6th largest economy in the world and for the most part, as CA goes, the nations goes. The more the merrier! Cheers!
[Edited on 3/20/2018 by StratDal]
The angst in California over illegal immigration, sanctuary cities and the slums is coming from the California people as evidenced by local media.
Must be the corrupt liberal media that has no credibility. I know of no such angst.
Why not Google "California secessionist movement' or "California sanctuary city protests"?
Then you'll know what abc, cbs, nbc, America One News, BBC news and others have been reporting.
