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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 09:28 AM
For an album that still has cuts played to this day by the ABB and even Dickey,
it seems to not get as much "love" as the Duane era albums.

For me it was the one I wore out the most. That and AFE, but that's in
another universe.

Seems to me, "Win, Lose or Draw" gets more critique around here than this one.
Wondering what everyone else thinks.


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Brothers and Sisters, the Allman Brothers Band's first new studio album in two years, shows off a leaner brand of musicianship, which, coupled with a pair of serious crowd-pleasers, "Ramblin' Man" and "Jessica," helped drive it to the top of the charts for a month and a half and to platinum record sales. This was the first album to feature the group's new lineup, with Chuck Leavell on keyboards and Lamar Williams on bass, as well as Dickey Betts' emergence as a singer alongside Gregg Allman. The tracks appear on the album in the order in which they were recorded, and the first three, up through "Ramblin' Man," feature Berry Oakley their sound is rock-hard and crisp. The subsequent songs with Williams have the bass buried in the mix, and an overall muddier sound. The interplay between Leavell and Betts is beautiful on some songs, and Betts' slide on "Pony Boy" is a dazzling showcase that surprised everybody. Despite its sales, Brothers and Sisters is not quite a classic album (although it was their best for the next 17 years), especially in the wake of the four that had appeared previously, but it served as a template for some killer stage performances, and it proved that the band could survive the deaths of two key members.

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Brothers and Sisters is a 1973 album by The Allman Brothers Band.

The group's first album recorded completely after the death of leader Duane Allman, and mostly after the death of bassist Berry Oakley, Brothers and Sisters saw the Allmans reach a commercial peak. The album went to #1 on the U.S. albums chart, and moreover contained their only hit single, Dickey Betts' country-tinged "Ramblin' Man", which climbed to #2 on the U.S. singles chart. Betts, billed as Richard on this album, came to the forefront by also writing the album's other most prominent tracks, the buoyant instrumental "Jessica", the FM radio-friendly "Southbound" (sung by Gregg Allman), and the country blues hybrid "Pony Boy". The group's sound was also somewhat different, with new pianist Chuck Leavell acting as the other lead instrument instead of the band's former trademark dual lead guitars.

The album's inner gatefold cover art featured a large photograph of the extended Allmans family band members, roadies, wives, girlfriends, children, dogs, all in a seemingly idyllic, long-haired, multi-racial Southern setting a setting that would be rent asunder by internal frictions and outside developments over the next few years.

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 09:52 AM
All I can say is I wore out LAFE, EAP and B&S. I didn't know about the first 2 albums but when they re-released the first 2 albums as the double album I wore those out too.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 10:01 AM
I love all the songs on the record, but missed the two guitar sound. Chuckie Leavell was a good musician, but I have always thought the piano was a poor replacement for Duane's soaring guitar. Consequently the music sounded a bit watered down. I'm glad the ABB came back to the two guitar sound later on, it definitely helped.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 10:35 AM
Love the album. Although it didn't have Duane, I still found the twin guitar part in tact between overdubs and "guest' guitarist. The sound is different but never really saw it as one guitar.

The first review says that is was the best for 17 years. Which album that came along was better? None in my opinion. i love the albums from 89 on but they don't match up with B&S.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 10:56 AM
The original B&S version of Jessica still does it for me. A magnificent piece of music.
Hearing it played full volume pre Beacon show at the Amsterdam Pub makes all the hairs on my arms stand up

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 11:06 AM
As someone who was 12 at the time that B&S was released, I really wasn't listening to the FM format, and was fairly unaware of AFE and the first two albums. I had heard Revival, I'm pretty sure, but probably couldn't tell you who did it. My dad did have some Doors, Joplin, Ray Charles, Jimmy Reed, and I listened to a lot of his and my aunt's 45s - Elvis, Chuck Berry, and the more "pop" stuff. So, Ramblin' Man on the radio caught my attention, and B&S was puchased soon after. I still have it. Then, AFE was purchased, and it changed everything for me. I soon had everything that was available commercially and devoured all I could about the band. The Anthology albums broadened my horizons even more. It also introduced me to the blues artists that were the inspiration for much of the sound.

So, B&S was the "gateway drug" that has fueled this obsession that has lasted 35+ years.

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 11:06 AM
I don't think any pop/rock band anywhere, ever, has written and performed a song as brilliant and joyful as the Brothers & Sisters version of "Jessica." It's the living end.

And, with "Ramblin' Man," "Wasted Words," "Come & Go Blues" and "Southbound," the album is a classic! True 5-stars, and just as Allman as anything released with Duane.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 12:48 PM
Very possibly the best studio record the band ever made. Thanks Dickey for the great songs.....but, as good as that recording is, I'll take LAFE as my fav pick.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 12:55 PM
a great part of the initial Allmans lexicon.....
Duane was gone but the group was still
"The Allman Brothers BAND".......
I think the "Band" portion quickly faded after B & S........
Tyler and I have listened to B & S quite a bit in the last 3months -
it still works for us.......

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 12:56 PM
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I love all the songs on the record, but missed the two guitar sound. Chuckie Leavell was a good musician, but I have always thought the piano was a poor replacement for Duane's soaring guitar. Consequently the music sounded a bit watered down. I'm glad the ABB came back to the two guitar sound later on, it definitely helped.


See, if you're contrasting this album with "Enlightened Rogues", gimme "Brothers & Sisters" hands down.. if not, that's cool. Of course the piano was a "Poor replacement" for Duane's guitar, but what choice did they have?.... Chuck added a much needed spark. Listen to the fire in "Jelly, Jelly"... or the beauty of "Jessica".. how about the intricate lines in "Come and Go blues"?... a great album. Watered down?... check out the entire Winterland show from Sept. of '73.... maybe their best performance ever.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 12:58 PM
AMG says "Brothers and Sisters is not quite a classic album". Horsesh*t, I say.
Funny the kind of criticism the band has had to suffer, and a statement like AMG's statement can only be made while unconsciously comparing Brothers and Sisters to ABB's two previous efforts, Fillmore East and Eat a Peach, which both are in the category of "greatest rock record ever recorded". Just because Brothers and Sisters veers off in a different direction does not mean it's not a classic record. It IS.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 01:56 PM
Rob, you nailed it.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 03:23 PM
Ummm Chuck wasn't just a good musician he was and still is a GREAT piano player and the piano player by which all others are judged among long time ABB followers. About the only thing Gregg, Dickey and Butch seem to agree on is without Chuck's stability and genius playing, the band would have folded after Berry passed.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 03:46 PM
this is the album where it started to turn into the dickey betts band. betts seemed to write a majority of the original tunes the ABB did starting with theis album
 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 03:55 PM
Mostly because Gregg stopped writing them.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 04:03 PM
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Mostly because Gregg stopped writing them.


Whatever the reason, the drop off from here to "Win, Lose or Draw"...is HUGE.

 

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AMG says "Brothers and Sisters is not quite a classic album". Horsesh*t, I say.
Funny the kind of criticism the band has had to suffer, and a statement like AMG's statement can only be made while unconsciously comparing Brothers and Sisters to ABB's two previous efforts, Fillmore East and Eat a Peach, which both are in the category of "greatest rock record ever recorded". Just because Brothers and Sisters veers off in a different direction does not mean it's not a classic record. It IS.


I couldn't have said it any better. I probably couldn't have said it this well, either.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 04:08 PM
Brothers & Sisters...good LP...& some good words for a few other ABB LP's..all of which i dig...But,Idlewild South is still my favorite ABB LP....Love that record...

 

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Brothers & Sisters...good LP...& some good words for a few other ABB LP's..all of which i dig...But,Idlewild South is still my favorite ABB LP....Love that record...


Yeah brother...

Idlewild South is the first ABB album I ever heard from front to back. It is the first ABB album that I ever owned.

It's still the one that has the most personal "magic" for me.

And just so I don't have to try to make an agonizing choice between this one and LAFE, I hearby proclaim Idelwild South my favorite ABB studio album.

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 05:54 PM
Having said that, I also like Brothers and Sisters just fine. Dickey deserves a world of praise for taking the reins and keeping things together during a very bad time for the band. It is a solid, enjoyable album.

My only complaint is that (to my ears) it has always sounded just a bit muddy in spots, particularly on Wasted Words. But other than that....very nice album

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 08:03 PM
I can't imagine that anyone would call Chuck a "poor replacement" for Duane. Chuck is one of the, if not the single greatest rock pianist of all time.

His work on "Southbound" and "Jessica" is legendary.

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 10:37 PM
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Mostly because Gregg stopped writing them.


well why did he do that and continue to do that for the next 20 years?

 

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  posted on 6/15/2009 at 11:10 PM
For many of us it was the sound track of the late summer of 73. Possibley the bands high tide.


 

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  posted on 6/16/2009 at 12:07 AM
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well why did he do that and continue to do that for the next 20 years?


Probably because he was stoned out of his tree but you will have to ask him.

You even look for an argument when people agree with you. Too funny.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2009 at 12:51 AM
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For many of us it was the sound track of the late summer of 73. Possibley the bands high tide.


So true. I can recall being on what seemed at the time to be an endless motor home trip with the parental units that summer. My Stepfather had rented a 25 ft. "South Wind" a real beast; so that my sister, Mother, stepfather and me could travel up to Yellowstone and the Tetons for a "vacation"... Ha!... have you ever spent three weeks in a Motor home with "old" people? Ooops, I mean, your parents?..My sister and I each had an hour a day with the motor home's radio/tape deck... not nearly enough time when you had to listen to was the likes of Lawrence Welk, Petula Clark, Lynn Anderson and Herb Alpert... ALL day long as the Southwind traveled at speeds that sometimes topped 50 mph...My sister had thought ahead far enough to have brought along some Elton John Cassettes... (Thank God)... and I would spend the better part of my hour fruitlessly searching the FM dial for something I could listen to...I think we were outside of Salt Lake City the first time the radio clicked into the last few minutes of "Jessica"..Wow!... I knew the ABB had a new album coming out, but the trip coincided with the record's release so I had yet to purchase it... Anyway, I didn't know what to expect, but I knew it was the Allman Brothers the instant I heard it. Absolute magic. I had been saved, my prayers had been answered. For the next 45 minutes, I frantically searched the dial, hoping I would come across it again and then... there it was. I could tell, it was my first exposure to Chuck Leavell, that flowing piano solo in the middle... I turned it up and over the crackle of what was then average FM reception, I managed to lose myself in that beautiful music.... if only for a few moments.. . . .

"Who is this?"... my mother asked..as if she liked the piano solo. "I'm not sure, but I would bet that it's from the new Allman Brothers Band record". I said..."Turn it up, I like that piano"... I was in complete shock, one of my parents had just asked to turn up the volume on a song that I liked...

So at the next stop, I talked my Stepfather into stopping the beast at a local record store so that I could run in and buy the cassette of what I found out was named, "Brothers and Sisters"...The motor home hit the road and I used my sister's tape deck and ear piece and sat in the back and listened to the tape from start to finish... over and over. The following day when my hour with the Motor home's stereo came, I was ready... I had "Jessica" cued on the tape and stuck it in the deck and hit play. At first, the parents said nothing, but when Chuck's piano came on, I could see my Step dad tapping the steering wheel as he drove and heard my Mother chip in with.. "This is really nice, why doesn't more of your music sound like this?"........... That record absolutely saved my summer. I'll always remember that...


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