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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:16 PM
Something is vastly wrong when you can win 7 or 9 states and win the election we have the technology we have the communications to have a election and count the PEOPLES vote... I absolutly loathe this current system. It worked well when we were a 13 state country with horses as the fasted communication,it is time for a change!

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:21 PM
This is the same discussion democrats had after the last two elections. Those of us who didn't vote for Bush felt the same way then.

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:21 PM
only if Obama wins

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:21 PM
I agree, but where were you in 2000? I hate that my vote means nothing if the majority of my state goes the other way. It would also mean the candidates would actually campaign in all the states, and not just a few battleground states.

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:24 PM
I have been preaching this for years before 2000 and if it meant the the dem,s won the last two elections so be it whatever it means the PEOPLE need to be counted and not just the big city states, this system sucks no matter who wins it is wrong!

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:26 PM
without the electoral collage, as the theory goes...

candidates would only visit heavily populated areas

i.e. NYC, LA, Chi, Atl, Houston etc

Iowa and New Hampshire would be non entities

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:27 PM
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Something is vastly wrong when you can win 7 or 9 states and win the election we have the technology we have the communications to have a election and count the PEOPLES vote... I absolutly loathe this current system. It worked well when we were a 13 state country with horses as the fasted communication,it is time for a change!


On this we agree 100%.

 

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without the electoral collage, as the theory goes...

candidates would only visit heavily populated areas

i.e. NYC, LA, Chi, Atl, Houston etc

Iowa and New Hampshire would be non entities


As opposed to spending DAYS in one toss-up state?

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:31 PM
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without the electoral collage, as the theory goes...

candidates would only visit heavily populated areas

i.e. NYC, LA, Chi, Atl, Houston etc

Iowa and New Hampshire would be non entities


As opposed to spending DAYS in one toss-up state?


It just proves there is no solution that will satisfy us all

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:32 PM
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Something is vastly wrong when you can win 7 or 9 states and win the election we have the technology we have the communications to have a election and count the PEOPLES vote... I absolutly loathe this current system. It worked well when we were a 13 state country with horses as the fasted communication,it is time for a change!


If you want real change, starting tomorrow or the day after, begin working for the Constitutional Party so that next time their candidate is on the ballot in all 50 states. Educate America that there is an alternative and show them what they are all about, what they stand for, what they will do if they are elected. The Constitutional Party will let the people have a voice in their government, the others can't ruffle too many feathers because they are part of the other parties. You want real change? It starts with all of us, organizing on the grassroots level to really make the change.

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:33 PM
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Something is vastly wrong when you can win 7 or 9 states and win the election we have the technology we have the communications to have a election and count the PEOPLES vote... I absolutly loathe this current system. It worked well when we were a 13 state country with horses as the fasted communication,it is time for a change!


If you want real change, starting tomorrow or the day after, begin working for the Constitutional Party so that next time their candidate is on the ballot in all 50 states. Educate America that there is an alternative and show them what they are all about, what they stand for, what they will do if they are elected. The Constitutional Party will let the people have a voice in their government, the others can't ruffle too many feathers because they are part of the other parties. You want real change? It starts with all of us, organizing on the grassroots level to really make the change.
Gina; of all the things I've ever seen you post, this is - by far - the best advice for our future. Great comments!

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:35 PM
Ryde, while I agree with you on this, getting rid of the Electoral College will diminish your Idaho vote further. The number of electors are determined by adding the number of state congressional districts, which is population based, and then adding the number of senators, 2. Since a sparsely populated state gets an elector for each senator, it favors the small states.

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 08:37 PM
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Something is vastly wrong when you can win 7 or 9 states and win the election we have the technology we have the communications to have a election and count the PEOPLES vote... I absolutly loathe this current system. It worked well when we were a 13 state country with horses as the fasted communication,it is time for a change!


If you want real change, starting tomorrow or the day after, begin working for the Constitutional Party so that next time their candidate is on the ballot in all 50 states. Educate America that there is an alternative and show them what they are all about, what they stand for, what they will do if they are elected. The Constitutional Party will let the people have a voice in their government, the others can't ruffle too many feathers because they are part of the other parties. You want real change? It starts with all of us, organizing on the grassroots level to really make the change.
Gina; of all the things I've ever seen you post, this is - by far - the best advice for our future. Great comments!


Indeed!

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 10:06 PM
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Something is vastly wrong when you can win 7 or 9 states and win the election we have the technology we have the communications to have a election and count the PEOPLES vote... I absolutly loathe this current system. It worked well when we were a 13 state country with horses as the fasted communication,it is time for a change!



I totally agree with you on this!

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 11:36 PM
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Ryde, while I agree with you on this, getting rid of the Electoral College will diminish your Idaho vote further. The number of electors are determined by adding the number of state congressional districts, which is population based, and then adding the number of senators, 2. Since a sparsely populated state gets an elector for each senator, it favors the small states.


I was about to say the same thing. Ryde's vote in Idaho is actually more powerful than someones vote in California. [/quote

This is true. My vote tomorrow is largely symbolic.

 

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  posted on 11/3/2008 at 11:38 PM
i am not concerned with how powerfull my own vote is i am interested in a fair vote by the people of the country who 's blood sweat and tears have built it.

California has what 30 something electorial votes what is only half their people vote? that is not fair... the system needs a overhaul and in todays instant communication , we can have a vote and if you do not vote then it really does matter.

 

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  posted on 11/4/2008 at 06:47 AM
Get your state legislators to sign up with this:

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

The states have the right to assign their electoral votes however they see fit. If they all go with the popular vote then this swing state crap ends.

[Edited on 11/4/2008 by michaelsio]

 

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Why not throw out the constitution too! Oh, sorry, Bush already did that.
 

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Something is vastly wrong when you can win 7 or 9 states and win the election we have the technology we have the communications to have a election and count the PEOPLES vote... I absolutly loathe this current system. It worked well when we were a 13 state country with horses as the fasted communication,it is time for a change!


If you want real change, starting tomorrow or the day after, begin working for the Constitutional Party so that next time their candidate is on the ballot in all 50 states. Educate America that there is an alternative and show them what they are all about, what they stand for, what they will do if they are elected. The Constitutional Party will let the people have a voice in their government, the others can't ruffle too many feathers because they are part of the other parties. You want real change? It starts with all of us, organizing on the grassroots level to really make the change.
Gina; of all the things I've ever seen you post, this is - by far - the best advice for our future. Great comments!


Indeed!


I did my part, I voted for Bob Barr today. I don't care for the man but I was voting for the party. A third party is the only way we will have any change.

 

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  posted on 11/4/2008 at 10:01 AM
I live it CT, very blue state. My vote means nothing and our state gets no attention. It's time for a popular vote so everyone's vote matters as much as everyone else's.

 

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  posted on 11/4/2008 at 10:21 AM
It's time to go back to electing the electoral college and letting them get together and hash, fight, work it out to elect the president, the way it was intended. You do that and every vote in every state counts.
 

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Why not throw out the constitution too! Oh, sorry, Bush already did that.


Instead of a quip ,and unintelligent statement like that why not actualy post something that is relavent to the topic. If you feel Bush threw out the constitution then please explain why! and How!

 

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  posted on 11/4/2008 at 10:59 AM
The Patriot Act I & II
The FISA Bill
The Homeland Security Act
The Bail Out bill

You have no rights. The constitution is a hollow piece of paper. They gutted it.

They can listen to your phone conversations, read your email, arrest you for no reason, etc. and there is nothing you can do about it. Our rights have been destroyed in the guise of protecting the homeland.

As for the electoral college, why would they do away with it. The elite won't give up that power, ever. Why would they leave it up to us? They can't keep the power if we decide we don't like either party. The electoral college will never go away.

Funny how you call me un-intelligent (why people have to slam others is beyond me) and yet you don't even know what they have done to the Constitution?

[Edited on 11/4/2008 by jerryphilbob]

 

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The Patriot Act I & II
The FISA Bill
The Homeland Security Act
The Bail Out bill

You have no rights. The constitution is a hollow piece of paper. They gutted it.

They can listen to your phone conversations, read your email, arrest you for no reason, etc. and there is nothing you can do about it. Our rights have been destroyed in the guise of protecting the homeland.

As for the electoral college, why would they do away with it. The elite won't give up that power, ever. Why would they leave it up to us? They can't keep the power if we decide we don't like either party. The electoral college will never go away.

Funny how you call me un-intelligent (why people have to slam others is beyond me) and yet you don't even know what they have done to the Constitution?

[Edited on 11/4/2008 by jerryphilbob]


One at a time my young padawan learner...
1 do you know of any one who has been arrested for no reason or because of a phone call or e-mail????

2. so you are saying we have never had a say in the election process the elite have controled it from the beginning? if so then what constitution are you talking about being gutted??

And who are they??? ohhhhhhhhh i have my tinfoil hat on...

3. you can not even read!! i called your statement uninteligent NOT YOU!

4. I have nothing to hide in my e-mails,phone calls, or whatever and if them listening to my boring stuff saves just one American on American soil then more power to them,they have taken nothing from me ,because i am not the enemy...

5. Bush never did anything on his own congress and the house are just as guilty but prey tell how would you old wise one secure our country against terror?

6. back to the original question<><> If you feel Bush threw out the constitution then please explain why! and How!

7. Bye

 

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