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  posted on 9/28/2007 at 12:08 PM
Hi there, Vaylor.

Given your respect for the sophistication of many of Frank Zappa's compositions, and your opinion that "listening to him through 'rock' ears" is not the best route to understanding what he was all about, I'm wondering what your opinion is on some of the giants (and giant songs) of progressive rock.

I'm a huge Yes fan, for instance, and wonder what you might think about songs like Gates of Delirium, Close to the Edge, all of Tales from Topographic Oceans, Awaken, etc.

ELP and King Crimson also had some pretty heavy tunes in this category as well. The music isn't for everybody, I know, but neither is Zappa.

I've been listening to a LOT of Zappa lately, mostly live commercial releases (Fillmore, Roxy, In NY, etc.), but then all of a sudden about mid-week I had a hankering for some of those long Yes tunes I mentioned. The question came to me then. WWVT? (what would Vaylor think?).

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  posted on 9/28/2007 at 09:39 PM
Much of the progressive cannon does essentially what Zappa had done: use the elements of rock and some other elements (rock and psychedelia for Yes, rock and medieval music for Gentle Giant, and so on) but constructed songs as a composer would for an orchestra. The role of improvisation was relegated to that of a compositional element (much is the same way Bach had done previously).

There is much progressive music I enjoy quite a bit - especially Gentle Giant, King Crimson, and early Genesis. The one sort of pervasive negative to much of this music is that they tend to take themselves VERY SERIOUSLY. If you can get around some RIDICULOUSLY pretensions lyrics then the music is by and large pretty good.

There are exceptions, of course. King Crimson had extended periods that were largely instrumental, same with Project X. Mike Keneally's works are very approachable and quirky. Lets put it this way - I'm enough of a prog fan to incorporate large quantities of progressive elements in my current project: Bonobos Convergence.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2007 at 11:36 AM
Cool. Thanks for your reply.

I'm back to Frank this week. I just scored "Frank Zappa plays the music of Frank Zappa," and I'm digging the hell out of it, listening to it now for the first time, in fact. These extended versions of Black Napkins and Zoot Allures are killer.

I've been reading a little bit on some of the recent releases that his family has put together, and some of it sounds like "must-have" stuff. I think "Trance-fusion" will be my next acquisition.

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