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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 12:54 AM
Seems like in old ABB photos you can see wah wah pedals on stage. What songs were they used on either live or on album? I can't recall ever hearing any used.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 01:46 AM
Warren uses one on Maydell, I know..

Also, at the end of the studio version of Whipping Post, it sounds like either Dickey or Duane is using a wah pedal to add to the chaos.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 08:54 AM
Definitely one in Whippin' Post...
I too have seen the pictures of a wah-wah on stage. I heard Dickey play one back in the 90's on one song...don't remember which song though.

I have always thought that Dickey might have used the pedal as a tone device rather thatn in the conventional manner. Like maybe he had it on and just had it cracked open for some type of tone variation device, however I have not been able to pinpoint that sound and maybe my ears are broke....

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 08:57 AM
Maydell, with Warren is the only one I know of..I don't know of any on the old stuff

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 09:03 AM
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Dickey uses one in his solo on Change My Way Of Living. At least on the live versions of the song anyway. It's pretty funky and sounds pretty wah wahish to me. What 'cha think?????

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 09:20 AM
In the old days I never really seen them use a wah wah pepal live to much, but they were always set up. I guess if the mood took one of them. If ever from my memory, it was usually during an ending cresendo, or and ending that they never wanted to finish..they hate ending a song, don't they?
The first studio wah wah I hear distinctly is in Les Bres in A minor. And he used it live in concert for the song most of the times I've seen them.
Listen to Dickey using the wah wah during One Way Out from 10/31/86 MSG anti crack show..he didn't use it much, but when he did, he was (is) very tasteful.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 09:38 AM
Good question Tins. I agree with TennKev that it was "Change My Way Of Living" that Dickey during his tenure with the 89 reunited ABB and also the JP model ABB that he used a wah. And ... if I remember correctly it was taken out of the chain immediately after and was only in immediately before the song. As for the old days ... I too have seen a wah on the floor in several pictures almost always in Dickey's rig. I am assuming that Dickey was using it as a slight tonal color seeing as how both he and Duane were using almost identical rigs-LP's and Marshalls or Twins. I've done this myself before after reading that Michael Schenker did it years ago. There is something to it. Try it you may like it!

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 09:46 AM
I love the sound of a cry baby cracked all the way back and playing lead on the neck position on a STRAT...

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:04 AM
I'll have to pull out some early '95 shows. At that time the band did "I Know I Oughta Leave" before dropping it from rotation shortly thereafter. It seems to me DB played a wah wah on that song intro.

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:16 AM
I remember hearing one (likely Dickey) on a Duane era show that I have, but I don't remember which one. I think it was during Elizabeth Reed, but I could easily be wrong, since I haven't heard it in a while.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:17 AM
I hear ya' bluedad! For some reason I think it adds a boost when you are running other effects. Sometimes I love to dial in the classic 70's lead tone a little distortion, a little phase ala Pat Travers plus the wah cracked open just a tad ... ahhhhh ... there is a reason why it's classic. Also if you already have the treble wide open on the guitar then turning on the wah enables you to get a little more high end. Whether it's actually or just psychologically I don't know, but both are equally important IMO.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:17 AM
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Seems like in old ABB photos you can see wah wah pedals on stage. What songs were they used on either live or on album? I can't recall ever hearing any used.
It was probably just Dickey and not Duane, who added an occasional wah pedal sound back in the day. I have noticed him do it on one or two songs over the years. Never overdone. Probably the Eric Clapton/Cream influence in the time period the original ABB was formed.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:24 AM
About the only time I remember a wah-wah being used in the early days was on the studio version of "Whipping Post" towards the end of the song. Saw the orginal band three times back in day, and can't remember them using a "wah wah" although, as the following picture show (see link - http://www.florida-cracker.org/archives/003961.html ) Duane definely had a wah-wah, volume pedal in front of him.

btw, if any of y'all can actually post the picture the link leads to, please do so, as it's a great shot of Duane in performance, don't think I've seen this picture before.


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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:25 AM
Dickey uses a wah wah pedal on Sailing Across the Devil's Sea on the Austin City Limits TV show from 1996 or so.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:35 AM
Hey Fred while that is a fantastic picture. I'm not seeing any wah on the floor. The thingy with all the mic cables plugged in appears just to be a head of a snake going back to the soundboard. At least in this photo Duane is wahless.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:37 AM
Here you go Fred....


 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 10:52 AM
Thanks bluedad,

Digging around "Florida Cracker" site found this link (http://www.florida-cracker.org/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&sea rch=duane+allman). Lots of Duane Allman pictures, some of which I've never seen. Wonder if anyone around here knows Florida Cracker, and if we can her to post "the every Wednesday" Duane Allman pictures over here in the Forums (either "Anything Goes" or the "Duane Allman" forums)? Also scroll down a little bit and read the comments under the pictures. Don't recognize any of the names of the poster, but apparently, all are fans of Duane.

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 11:18 AM
In the out takes from the first studio album Dickey uses a wah in the rhythm for Dreams.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 11:47 AM
In an early Mt. Jam, don't have date but pre-71 Dickey uses wah wah in his solo, I think it's the Mt. Jam where Johnny Winter is present too.
 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 12:33 PM
Yeah. I just listened and can hear the crying wah wah guitar at the end of Whippin Post.
It fits the lyric so well.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 01:36 PM
yeah, actually there are quite a few songs that it sounds like a wah pedal is being used but not actually being pumped up and down to create the familiar wah wah sound. I think mostly is used for tone and, or creating a thicker or thinner sound as this is what a wah pedal will do if kept in either the up or down position. Also like some of you said, definitely one used in Whipping Post.

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 04:06 PM
IMHO, I think Dickey got a little carried away with the wah wah sound at the end of the Jack Pearson era. I have a Beacon show from 99 and it's a little too much (Ain't Wasting Time No More especially).

 

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  posted on 1/17/2007 at 11:09 PM
So if Betts was the wah wah guy, which one played the crying wah wah part at the end of studio Whippin Post? Sounds more like Duane to me as do the signature licks right after it.

 

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  posted on 1/18/2007 at 03:43 AM
Fred, I have Florida Cracker bookmarked on my computer--pretty good blog. How can you go wrong with a blog that every week puts up a "Wednesday Duane Alman Pic"?!
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Digging around "Florida Cracker" site found this link (http://www.florida-cracker.org/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&sea rch=duane+allman). Lots of Duane Allman pictures, some of which I've never seen. Wonder if anyone around here knows Florida Cracker, and if we can her to post "the every Wednesday" Duane Allman pictures over here in the Forums (either "Anything Goes" or the "Duane Allman" forums)?
Poster "floridacracker" there is our site member "donnah." She used to drop Duane pics into the "Duane Allman" section from time to time. They were often so rare and intimate that people started thinking donnah was Duane's old lady Donna! People were posting messages in her picture threads like she was ABB royalty--thanking her for sharing her precious "personal" photos from back in the day, thanking her for the honor of her presence in the thread, and so on!

Donnah has had to reply that she was not the Donna. By the way, in order to save on her power bill or whatever, she has asked that photos from her site not be hotlinked to show up here. (I think putting the URL here is okay, though.) That's part of the reason I have her site bookmarked--so I can go there quickly anytime, including Wednesdays.
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Also scroll down a little bit and read the comments under the pictures. Don't recognize any of the names of the poster, but apparently, all are fans of Duane.
Surprisingly, not all avid Duane fans post at HTW. (That's like me before an ABB show: "Do you post at Hittin' the Web? . . . What's your screenname?" Everybody should post around here. )

 

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  posted on 1/18/2007 at 09:31 PM
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In the out takes from the first studio album Dickey uses a wah in the rhythm for Dreams.
You can hear Dickey using some wah pedal on "She Has Funny Cars" by The Second Coming, back in 1968. A wah-wah is so cool George Harrison even wrote a song about it.

 
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