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  posted on 8/25/2013 at 03:27 PM
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Here's a short documentary about Duane and Berry's last rides. It doesn't sensationalize, but just shows where.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTiQs2DcuuY

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Bill, I just watched the (your ?) video,..........
Thanks -- I appreciate the correction. I had nothing to do with the creation of video. I just posted the link.

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Well, ya didn't SAY that,........I think it was pretty natural to assume that you made the video and were shareing,....but in doing so, ,...even as a sharing point of someone else's work,.....you neither made a disclaimer of it not being your own, nor did you make an additional note correction of the author's misinformation.

Unfortunately, people take history reports as hard facts.
What they see/hear, as representing 'history',....and tend to believe as long as they hear nothing contridictory to that information.

I am a history buff and passionate researcher (and occassionally even a history writer, within the context of the subjects I write about , which FAR preceeds a mere 42 years ago)

As a write,....I TRY to be head-on accurate in what I write, as my reputation depends on that accuracy,.........

Too much has already been presented here, on this thread, YEARS ago, to dispell a long-held belief in 'facts' that were simply NEVER 'true' to begin with,..........Beliefs, long held before my appearance here, can understandably be excused as most folks simply not knowing,....and the rest the result of others ignorantly spreading false reports, because they were guessing,....trying to fill in the missing parts of a puzzle,....So they simply tried to MAKE their theories and half-truths perhaps, fit.

Yes, Duane's accident was a great tragedy.
Yes, he still has fans who remember him, and others who discovered him many years after his music stopped
Yes,.....PPl seem to have a natural tendency to want to learn all they can about a hero or idol,....that's just human nature,......and when and if that hero/idol leaves the planet; for some screwy reason they seem to try all the harder to gather about themselves the essense of that person's former light, and try to keep it shinning.........

I FULLY understand all that.
And I have no problem with it.

But I Do have a problem with some folks intentionally continuing to spread information as 'fact' that has already been PROVEN to be false, and especially when that information continues to point a finger of blame at someone already proven innocent.

To keep repeating this falsehood, once known to be that,. is to chose to ignore the facts, and maliciously promote a lie .

I was willing to let the whole video go on Many levels, for many reasons, and I made gracious excuses for both it's posting and possible reasons for the one or two bits of misinformation in it to exist there, even after all these years when most folks here already KNEW different.

But then when I learn that I had given you credit for a simple 'mistake' made under the pressures of the moment ,.......when I learn you were not the author,.....yet you had posted it as if you were,.......
And you failed to made both that clear, AND clarify that there was misinformation within it's contents,...

Then your motives become suddenly suspect
So now we're unclear as to what your real purpose in the posting had been ?????

 

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  posted on 8/25/2013 at 07:06 PM
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I was reading through this and it came to me that ya'll are endlessly analyzing as to what happened and not focusing on the music like Duane would have wanted us to. The accident happened almost 42 years ago. It's not being investigated by the authorities, there's no one being sued, there are no future court dates regarding this. This shoulld be left well enough alone. Let's reflect on who Duane's contributions to music and life.


Evan,...what you speak of is true,. on some level,......but I don't think the reminder has a place on this thread.
Duane's music, was not MINE,......Chuck's LIFE was.
There are So MANY other places on this site where your statement could have been better applied and appreciated,.....to single this one out has been to misplace it.

CHUCK was MY hero.
Damn few people will ever know all he did to take an almost totally broken soul and with love and persistance give back a life where a nightmare had SHATTERED it. I was newly 18 when he found me,.....scared to death of my own shadow,.....jumping at sudden noises, and straining my ears for the sleightest sounds of returning real-life nightmares, that never seemed to end, in the form of a series of human monsters, some new ones replacing old ones, and some who were always there and seemed inescapable,.....I was 18 years old, and had already been subjected to more in those years, than half a dozen random strangers might encounter in an entire lifetimes! 'Broken' just somehow doesn't quite stress things enough,.......I was a mental wreck,.......I had been so physically abused for so long, I honestly thought that if things still going on, continued Someone was going to die,...because I could not bear anymore of it all,......my main threat at the moment, was too physically powerful to be stopped by anything short of a shotgun, and since That was impossible,...the only choice I had left was to slash my own wrists, to prevent the nightmare from continuing. Chuck entered my life, just a short time before I would be forced to make that move #the person in question was some 400 miles away, working, but returning soon and I was trapped# But Chuck never knew about that,...Never. I was too afraid to tell him. But he knew the rest. And he made 'fixing' me his own personal mission of love.

That man had more love and laughter in him that perhaps anyone I've ever known since.

He saved my life.
Duane Allman ?
I had no CLUE 'who' he was.
There wasn't much music in my life,....there wasn't much of anything in my life, beyond jumping at snaps and shadows.

I'd never been to a concert of any kind, or seen ANY band perform.
Radio ? I knew what one was, but barely knew how to operate one.

I didn't come here as a fan of Duane's.

I came here to defend the memory of a boy/man who had set me on a pedestal and worshiped me as beautiful, and worth loving,.....and who was allowed to stay on this Earth 'just' long enough to love me so much that he was able to put back together a tortured soul who had long since given up any hope of ever being loved, or have any other life than what I'd already experienced,.....I couldn't even remember what 'hope' was anymore. But he taught me to believe.

He turned me from being a helpless victim, into being a strong confident survivor .

Y'all have PLENTY of other places here, to worship your own heros.

This thread was begun by me,.......to correct historie's wrongfully recorded facts re. a man who literally saved my life.

I did not come here to speak of Duane,......a man, who at the time, my small survival world was totally un-aware of. I didn't come here claiming to be a fan. I didn't smoke, I didn't drink, I had never tried a drug of any kind in my life, I'd left the nest at 15 and had been trying to survive on a different level, already a mother at 16, and wed to an abusive alcoholic,....I didn't learn the understanding of 'freedom' or 'love' until Chuck and I wed shortly before I turned 19,.......My BEST friend !!! That man TAUGHT me How to Laugh !!!!! He loved life and lived every moment of it as if it would be his last. He'd told me he had no fear of death, but if it took him young, as he felt sure it would,.....that he loved me so much that God was just going to HAVE to 'undertand' and let him come back and find me again,.....if such a thing might be possible.......

But this is not the place.

I came here to make him real.
I came here to say that I believe there is a reason for all things,....that even the taking away from this Earth of the young anf beautiful and talented,....is all part of a greater plan......

Your Duane
My Chuck.

But so many remember Duane,

while Chuck remained a shadow without a face, without anyone but me, to remember the twinkle in his hazel eyes, when he was up to mischief,.....no-one but me to know how strong he was and how much he loved life and made friends so easy with barely more than a smile, a handshake, flirting with an old woman and making her feel young and beautiful instead of old and worthless,....how he would devote and hour or more, into trying to bring a smile to a crying chlld,...ANY child ....... A man who COULD NOT,....pass a vehicle broken down on the road, without turning around and going back to try and help,.......just as the day of Duane's accident,.....His first thought had not been to disappear down that road and hope no-one would try and blame him.

He heard the crash, and wondered for a split second if it was possible his truck was somehow part of the cause,....but he'd felt no impact ,.....He immediately, stopped that truck, jumped out, and raced back as quick as his work-hardened muscles would allow, hoping to be able to HELP,.......never thinking for an instant of the possibility that he might be blamed,......it just wasn't his nature,......He came to the bike, first, and in the fading light, and expecting to see blood, he apparently mistook the dark fluid around the bike, as blood, and in his mind,.....that haunted him "So much blood........" he later said to me in his dazed state. Finding the bike, he said "It was racing like crazy ! So I leaned over and turned it off, and then went looking for the rider,..." And he'd found Duane, minus his helmet.

It never occurred to him, to try and make a break for it. he KNEW that hill had been free of traffic, and that he had tried at clear that intersection as quickly as possible,....he felt no guilt except that one fleeting wonder,.....before he raced back to help..

I no-longer remember the circumstances, but one time he found himself on the side of the road, talking for some reason with the sherriff of whichever county he was working in, and the sherrif ended up mentioning to him that he had a cabin up at the lake, and whould Chuck like to come up and spend a weekend there sometime ? Chuck misunderstood the invite, and graciously accepted, adding "I'm Sure my wife and boys would really enjoy that ! Thankyou !'

The Sherriff, embarrassed, told him "Oh, I didn't mean for both families to go,.....I meant just 'us guys' getting AWAY from the wife and kids ! for the weekend !" Chuck regretfully told him "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't understand,......... but, if the families aren't going, that I'm afraid I can't take you up on the offer,.........." The man wanted to know why Not ? so Chuck told him "Well,.....I work some 50-60 or more hours a week,....when the weather is warm,.....and I barely get to see my wife and kids as it is,.......I don't know how things are at YOUR house,.......but come the weekend, the ONLY thing I want to do, is be HOME with my family,.......hanging out with a few guys in the woods fishing and shooting the bull, is just not MY idea of a 'Goood' time,.....I'd rather be home in my own bed with my wife,........."

He'd said the sherriff just looked at him and shook his head, not believing his ears.
But Chuck was blissfully happy being a married man,...albiet, a 20-something one.
His family was EVERYTHING to him. He preferred the company of women, , and especially, me.

It took me 14 years to find another mate, as good as the one I lost.
The confidence Chuck's love and encouragement had instilled in me had finally made me a Survivor.
I would Not seattle for less than the best I could find.
Last month, I celibrated my 23 rd wedding Ann.
Last week, I celebrated my 63 BD.
With my thigh-length Chestnut mane, I don't look 63,....a 20-something girl yesterday overheard me telling her 59 year old Mom how old I was, and the younger girl squacked a protest ,....'What ! You CAN"T be Sixty Three !!!!!"

Her gray-haired mother with the hanging flesh, looked a good 14 years or more older than me.


But anyway,.....
This thread was to be about making real a wonderful husband, father, friend and over-all decent human being who would bend over backwards to offer help to total strangers, and not one look at his watch, or think in terms of how his efforts might pad his wallet.. The ONLY 'reward' he ever hoped for was a greatful smile and a heartfelt thankyou.
.... I used to get tickled at him,.....if ANYONE ever asked him if he knew how to 'do' something, ? He always insisted "YES !" #I KNEW That could Not be Possible,......so when I challenged him on it,#....he just grinned "OK,...you're right,....I don't know how to do 'everything',.......but if I run into trouble, I can usually figure it out,...."

Somehow he couldn't bear the idea of ever disappointing anyone....

Was he perfect ?
No.
I NEVER heard him say the words "I'm sorry"

He couldn't.
I never knew why, Only that he'd choke on the words themselves if they were expected.
He was a 6 foot tall, 190 pound 2nd generation German-American,....beautifully muscled and tanned ,...Charming as hell, with a sense-of-playfullness that made him endearing to every female of any age who ever met him.........................
He had no talents except to make every female he ever encountered, end up feeling Beautiful and like the only female in the room,...adoring him and maybe a bit in-love too,.....but his heart belonged to me,......and he never let ANYONE forget that fact !

As for Duane and his music ?
There are over 100 other places here to sing his praises at,.........
What possible purpose is there in also doing so on this one place ?

Oh yes,...one more note:

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It's not being investigated by the authorities, there's no one being sued"

Interesting you would make that protest.
For at the time of Duane's accident there was Both going on.
An investigation to proved NO wrong-doing on Chuck's behalf, and yet Someone WAS 'sued' #for some 3-mill, # just the same and there WAS a small scandle #there had actually been TWO lawsuits filed, trying to profit from Duane's loss,.....the first was thrown out as I understand it, based on the testimony of the second lawsuits protest that the first had no right to make any such legal claims# But the second lawsuit was seattled and at least 6-figures awarded, but that was to benefit Duane's child, a daughter if I remember correctly),......but when Chuck himself was killed, I got the best attorney in the state, long-time Speaker for the House, Mr. Tom Murphy,......to bring a lawsuit for HIS #Chuck's# wrongful death.....and not only did I not 'win' so much as a Penny,.....because Tom later confessed to me that it was his own doing that the laws had been changed making it impossible to sue and employer for wrongful death,...........But it COST me money I needed to feed my kids,.......because Tom continued to collect a percentage my worker's comp payments right up until the end of them, because of a contract I had signed with him to take the case in the First place,........a case he'd forgotten he COULDN't win in the first place,...because HE had 'signed a paper, passing it into a law"

So yes,......investigations and lawsuits HAD been involved.

But for right now ?

I ONLY want the historical record set straight re. Chuck's accused guilt in the whole mess,.......42 years is my son's entire Lifetime !
It still bother's him that this matter is still up in the air with people still repeating these fabrications spelled out as facts re. the events of that day and those times

 

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  posted on 8/26/2013 at 08:47 AM
I think windsinger has done us all an incredible service, sharing so much first hand information about the accident, Chuck and their lives. We would have otherwise likely never heard this side of the story. It's impossible to know what "Duane would have wanted us to focus on", but I doubt he would have wanted misinformation that would tend to impugn an innocent person to be allowed to perpetuate.
I tend to take a spiritual view of the matter - I believe Duane left the planet at that time because it was his time, so "blame" or "fault" are irrelevant from that perspective - but I don't expect anyone else to accept my view - though it does soothe the pain of the loss, at least for me.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2013 at 09:01 AM
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I think windsinger has done us all an incredible service, sharing so much first hand information about the accident, Chuck and their lives. We would have otherwise likely never heard this side of the story. It's impossible to know what "Duane would have wanted us to focus on", but I doubt he would have wanted misinformation that would tend to impugn an innocent person to be allowed to perpetuate.
I tend to take a spiritual view of the matter - I believe Duane left the planet at that time because it was his time, so "blame" or "fault" are irrelevant from that perspective - but I don't expect anyone else to accept my view - though it does soothe the pain of the loss, at least for me.


Thankyou
I guess that's what I've been trying to say.
They were special men who left behind legacies.
They deserve to be remembered.
But the plain truth is that it was simply their time to go,....they came, they touched lives ,......
Duane with his music, Chuck with his merry heart,....

But they came and did the things they had come to do, and when that mission was done, they left again.

That was the way, I always tried to view Chuck's life,......I Never demanded to know 'why!'
Because I believed I already knew,...it was simply his time to go.

 

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I think windsinger has done us all an incredible service, sharing so much first hand information about the accident, Chuck and their lives. We would have otherwise likely never heard this side of the story. It's impossible to know what "Duane would have wanted us to focus on", but I doubt he would have wanted misinformation that would tend to impugn an innocent person to be allowed to perpetuate.
I tend to take a spiritual view of the matter - I believe Duane left the planet at that time because it was his time, so "blame" or "fault" are irrelevant from that perspective - but I don't expect anyone else to accept my view - though it does soothe the pain of the loss, at least for me.




Thankyou
I guess that's what I've been trying to say.
They were special men who left behind legacies.
They deserve to be remembered.
But the plain truth is that it was simply their time to go,....they came, they touched lives ,......
Duane with his music, Chuck with his merry heart,....

But they came and did the things they had come to do, and when that mission was done, they left again.

That was the way, I always tried to view Chuck's life,......I Never demanded to know 'why!'
Because I believed I already knew,...it was simply his time to go.


You are very welcome. In my view there are no "accidents" - vehicular or otherwise, so I agree - Duane and Chuck fulfilled their missions and went on to the next one. I don't even like to use the past tense - just a matter of habit for us physically focused types!

 

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I think windsinger has done us all an incredible service, sharing so much first hand information about the accident, Chuck and their lives. We would have otherwise likely never heard this side of the story. It's impossible to know what "Duane would have wanted us to focus on", but I doubt he would have wanted misinformation that would tend to impugn an innocent person to be allowed to perpetuate.
I tend to take a spiritual view of the matter - I believe Duane left the planet at that time because it was his time, so "blame" or "fault" are irrelevant from that perspective - but I don't expect anyone else to accept my view - though it does soothe the pain of the loss, at least for me.






Thankyou
I guess that's what I've been trying to say.
They were special men who left behind legacies.
They deserve to be remembered.
But the plain truth is that it was simply their time to go,....they came, they touched lives ,......
Duane with his music, Chuck with his merry heart,....

But they came and did the things they had come to do, and when that mission was done, they left again.

That was the way, I always tried to view Chuck's life,......I Never demanded to know 'why!'
Because I believed I already knew,...it was simply his time to go.


You are very welcome. In my view there are no "accidents" - vehicular or otherwise, so I agree - Duane and Chuck fulfilled their missions and went on to the next one. I don't even like to use the past tense - just a matter of habit for us physically focused types!




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  posted on 8/27/2013 at 01:10 PM
Hi Windsinger. I just wanted to let you know that I have followed this thread for some time now. I have contributed to this thread from time to time. You and I were even communicating through private messages for a little time. I learned the truth about the events of that day and I am grateful to you for letting us all know what really happened and how special Chuck was. Whenever I have the chance to let other people know about what really happened and that Chuck had no involvement in the accident, I do! I have learned, from you, that Chuck was as nice a person as you would ever find on this Earth. You were lucky to have such a special man that loved you so much and would give anything to make you happy. I hope that others that read this thread can learn what I have. I thank you for sharing your feelings with us and I wish you all the best going forward!!!!!
 

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Hi Windsinger. I just wanted to let you know that I have followed this thread for some time now. I have contributed to this thread from time to time. You and I were even communicating through private messages for a little time. I learned the truth about the events of that day and I am grateful to you for letting us all know what really happened and how special Chuck was. Whenever I have the chance to let other people know about what really happened and that Chuck had no involvement in the accident, I do! I have learned, from you, that Chuck was as nice a person as you would ever find on this Earth. You were lucky to have such a special man that loved you so much and would give anything to make you happy. I hope that others that read this thread can learn what I have. I thank you for sharing your feelings with us and I wish you all the best going forward!!!!!


You're right
and thankyou for making the effort on my behalf.
If you're also at Face Book,.....drop me a private note and I'll tell you how to find me there,....I think I would like to get to know you better as a person, and not just as a music fan here

 

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It's been so long since I've been here,....I'm not sure I'm doing this right,...

My son I was pregnant with in Oct. 1971 just had a birthday in December,...turning 43,,....OMG,...HOW can I Possibly be mother to a bald middle-aged man !!!!

I look in the mirror and almost see a stranger,.....but overall,...I'm not too unhappy about it,...nature has been fairly kind,...but I put away my new roller skates,... think I'll fill them with plaster of Paris and use um for book ends,....iffen I had the shelf space which I don't.

I talk to Big Dave and Blue Dad over at Facebook now and then,...love them both,..... Blue Dad gets me tickled so often,...while Dave is more of a rock,.....I mean most of my more serious conversations happen in his direction,...I admire him greatly,...while John,...I just wish lived down the road,....

I stay busy.
I have a woodcarving commission out of S.C. I'm trying to finish,....I was approached to do it almost a year ago, but it's not even half done after over 60 or so hours put into it,...my home situation is presently in turmoil but oddly enough, That's allowed me the time to finally work on the pair of carvings (to eventually become a bed headboard,....a book-matched pair horses,....will attache a pix of an almost completed one if I can figure out how to,...hmmmmmm nope,...don't remember,...darn it .

Anyway,....Bendaway tells me there is a new book out,...I'll see if the library can get it for me...
In the meantime someone needs to tell me how to post a pix ??????

I'm just dropping in,....my son's BD always makes me think of the months before he was born,...and that makes me think of coming here.

 

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My son I was pregnant with in Oct. 1971 just had a birthday in December,...turning 43,,....OMG,...HOW can I Possibly be mother to a bald middle-aged man !!!!
I'm the oldest of three kids, so I get to hear my mother lament every time I have a birthday about how she can't be old enough to have a kid my age. I guess it's a universal kind of thing, but in my mom's case even her youngest is older than 43. I must say it's not the most uplifting thing for me to hear either!

Always makes my day when you drop in, windsinger. Glad things are well with you!

 

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Always makes my day when you drop in, windsinger. Glad things are well with you!

 

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That's really Sweet of you
I'm getting Ancient guys,.... 65 come Aug. 14
to think I was only 21 when DA left the planet,.....
Oh well,.....
I'm staying busy.
Have a big ( 2- 12 x 48" book-matched panels ) woodcarving commission out of S.C. to finish,....the guy has been waiting over a year,.... if I can find a way to, I'll share a pix of the first one I'm still tweaking, at the 51 hours of carving time point,.... lemme see,...
(nope,.... someone please remind me how to post a pix here, from my PC Dave ???? )

 

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OK,.... one of the guys had sent me a private message already with a how-to,.... so hopefully I can Do this

Well,.... there is Something there my present stage on one of my two my commission pieces,... 51 hand carved hours, at this present stage, still needs tweaking.

 

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I can't believe in all of the years I have been hanging around this site, reading elsewhere about this band, or pilgrimages to Macon, that I have never read this side of the story until today. I have always been more interested in the music than the men, but this opens up a whole other angle on the lives we all touch and the paths we cross. Thank you so much for sharing

 

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Wow, very nice.
Thanks for sharing this with us

 

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  posted on 8/7/2015 at 11:02 AM
Dear Windsinger,
Not sure even how we found this thread, my wife and I moved to tears reading your story, it is indeed a missing piece of the puzzle and so we find ourselves reaching for kleenex even as we feel, in a way,
more whole.

We remember DA and the horrible accident
We hear from the family, the friends, Galladrielle
Books by Scott and Al Paul

then Windsinger. An apt name. The woman who with carving tools liberates beauty, truth, love,
and the bittersweet of the heart.


Thank you Windsinger.
We now also remember you and Chuck, a great love of your live, who tried
to do the right thing.

And now we know...more....about the rest of the story.

thank you for your gracious great generosity of heart
for
sharing.

kindest regards,
W4R

 

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"Yesterday was my 65 th BD.

Do y'all realize that Nov. 11, 2016 will mark 40 Years,... since I was a girl living in Macon, Ga. married to a clean-cut Illinois Farm Boy, construction foreman,... who liked country music and Wayne Newton, and who wanted more than ANYTHING,... to be a 'Southerner' and proper Southern Gentleman. ?

I can't believe so much time has passed,... since the day he was killed on the job he loved so much, and I packed up the two kids and moved them far away to the country,... to become Georgia Country Boys.

About 3 or 4 or 5 years after we moved,.. I sat them down one day for a family conference.
"HOW.....
in the world,.....
did I raise you two,
in libraries,
and Museums,
and antique shops,.....
and BOOKS !!!!!!
and STILL wind up with a pair of Red-Necks !!!!!"

My elder son, ( by an earlier marriage, who Chuck adopted while I was pregnant with his brother, who was born shortly after Duane's accident,...)

My elder son, wearing jeans, western boots, and an AC/DC t-shirt,
looked back at me, laughing. (he was always the more merry of the two)

Says : "Mom,..... what ELSE, did you expect ??? !!!! ,...... you drag us off to the country,...to dirt roads and TREES,...and rednecks in baseball caps, with fishing poles over their shoulders,.... and That's what we have for Friends,.... and you're SURPRISED ???? !!!!!

Uh,....yeah.
where did I go 'wrong' ????

Only I Didn't go wrong.

I raised them both up to know a LOT, from those books that filled their separate living room, and the endless home improvements, where I both taught and trusted them to help me build everything under the sun, and plant plants, and be treated more like young men than mere children. After Chuck's loss, so Many folks told my older son,....all 8 years old of him "Your Dad's gone,....now YOU are 'the man-of-the-house', it's gonna be up to YOU, to take care of your Mom and little brother"........ and I protested "NO !!!! He is a little BOY,.... let him enjoy his childhood (!) There Is no-more 'man-of-the-house' but he will grow,....they Both will and they will BE Happy,...despite all this,.... we ARE going to survive it,.. and Be Happy,..... " By age 12,...my elder son both wired a new house we had built (with help of a local carpenter) but he (my son) had also wired the inside circuit box And hooked everything successfully up to a utility pole, of live electricity, which he'd also done most of the breaker box there too. by High school he won county competition in 'electrical trades' twice in a row,... then won state,...then came in 2nd in the nation at US competition in AZ,... losing first by only 2 or 3 seconds. He then went into the Navy for a few years, working in Nuclear Submarines. Today, he is a certified electrician, and currently educating himself to become an Electrical Engineer, like his great grandfather was.

My younger son,.... the one I was 7 months pregnant with in my opening story here,... Earned a full scholarship for his first year of college, and had planned to become a teacher,... but because I finally married again, after he completed his first year of college, he was unable to get funding to continue with his schooling,.... but like his brother before him,... he was extremely self confident, and a hard worker, and never lacked for a job,... he did everything he could to pave his own way,...every job he worked (actually staying with each place for years, learning all he could and advancing as far as he could go in each, before moving on, to something better,..) He eventually was hired on at a Fortune 500 company, pretty much the moment he walked in the door, of the place he REALLY wanted to work. Turned out his former employer had asked him before he left "Do you have any idea where you're going, from here ?" And my son gave him the name of the place he intended to apply. His boss told him "You DO realize, that company policy is that if we offer you a continued job with us, if you'll only relocate,... and you decline that,... that we Cannot give you a job recommendation when you leave, anyway ?" My son said he understood,... but he had no desire to leave GA. / his home,... and move to Florida,( where they were offering him a job still ) His boss said he understood,... shook his hand, and wished him luck. But when my son walked into the office of the Fortune 500 company and introduced himself,... turned out his former boss has already phoned the man there,...and gave my son a verbal, glowing recommendation,.... and he was pretty much hired on the spot. Their Dad had always been a Hard worker, and a dependable one,... and my boys had become the same. (though the younger one was only 4 when his Dad died)

He is now in lower end management in that same last company.

Yesterday on my 65 th (OMG !!!! ) BD
My son PMed me at facebook "Mom,... are you at the library ? " (yep) "I'm on my way over,... I know where to find you"

He arrived carrying well-thought out gifts, that I took Huge delight in.
I sat here almost all day,....marveling at this 350 # son of mine,...who had grown into Such a confident Man,.... and who I've always been so close to. He married late. Not for lack of wanting to,... but for lack of the right bride,... he didn't want to rush into any mistakes,... so he waited. She's a 5'1" blond who adores him,... an artist, like myself,.... we have so much in common that gift buying is super easy come Christmas etc. If I love something,.... I get Two,....one for me, and one is hers .

Shawn spent the day with me here,... and he did some things on my computer I didn't know how to do (installed an antivirus program for me) and he showed me some of his favorite sites.

I, in turn,.... brought him here,... to see some of the reply postings on my story of my time before he was even born,..... he was fascinated to see ALL the pages of text,...and even read the last several. and watched some You-Tube footage video.

He was aware the site and page existed, but I don't think he'd ever seen it.
Big Dave asked me yesterday at Facebook,.... if my son was into the ABB ? (or some similar question) and I said both my boys were into the same stuff as their Mom "Celtic Bands" (with my elder son also liking rock, and my younger seeming to prefer country) neither had ever expressed any particular interest in ABB,.... but I knew there were ABB songs they enjoyed "Ramblin' Man" etc.

Well, that catches me up.
My 65 th was a great one.

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  posted on 8/17/2015 at 06:50 AM
Windsinger,
I've seen your name here for years. I lost my first wife when my sons were 8 and 12. That was 1994. I turned 65 this past March. My sons have wound up excellent up here in New York, as have my step daughter and step son. That was a beautiful post of yours. My sons never got into ABB that much. Can't say that about their father though.

 

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Windsinger,
I've seen your name here for years. I lost my first wife when my sons were 8 and 12. That was 1994. I turned 65 this past March. My sons have wound up excellent up here in New York, as have my step daughter and step son. That was a beautiful post of yours. My sons never got into ABB that much. Can't say that about their father though.

 

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  posted on 8/17/2015 at 03:18 PM
I didn't think I was into ABB at all,.... until folks here named songs it turned out I Was familiar with,...much to my own amazement. I was a fan of 'folk' music in those days,.... first wed at 15, and again at 18, mother at 16 and 21,.... I had no real 'teen' years,.... I was too busy being a housewife and mother, while my old classmates were dating and going on to other things as free, child and responsibility-less, singles. I saw their world from inside my own little domestic bubble, and never got into drugs, rebellion or anything else supposedly 'fun' and young. (So my own close-as-I-ever-came, to young and wild, didn't come until my late 20s and 30s,.... but was still mighty tame, considering the times,...

Never smoked, never drank, never any drugs, not even a joint, I was capable of still partying hard, without the side-effects (but fellow party-people would follow me, to spy, to find out if I wasn't REALLY drinking,.... believing No-one could have as much fun as I was having, without Something extra,..... but I could,.... mention 'skinny-dipping' and I was one of the first in the pool or off the end of the dock As long as it was innocent fun, I was game (still am) I knew my son's buddies. I Still know them, and several and their now wives are on my Facebook list. 65 ? OMG ! I'm running around in shorts and a LONG pony-tail,... I refuse to be a little-ole-church-lady (I'm pagan, anyway,.... but not wiccan) My hair is shot with silver threads, but my figure is still pretty darn good,...better now than when I finally remarried at 39,.... I still have plans to go skidding in sideways at the end, laughing "What-a-Ride !!!!!" Life is rough these days for assorted reasons, but despite it all, I'm still an optimist,.... so I still believe in Hope, that things will improve, eventually.

I raised my boys alone, yet I've always had male friends, so my boys had some amazing role models anyway. I've kept their Dad's memory alive for them, and years ago, began typing a series of stories of their Dad's life into my PC. I kept his last name when I remarried; my new husband didn't mind,.... he knew it was more important to me, to keep, than to him, for me to change it. (I said I was tired of changing my ownership papers,..... My father's daughter, first husband's wife, 2nd husband's wife,...once Chuck was gone, I vowed 'THIS name is now Mine,...I'm keeping it,...he's gone,... I now 'belong' to ME' Needless to say, different names have caused raised eyebrows on a regular basis over the years,... probably most of all when we applied for passports and were traveling and insisting we were husband and wife,... "But your last name is 'different',...."

Yeah.
I'm not HIS property.
My only bit of private rebellion,..

I like a number of ABB pieces of music, but in truth don't listen to much music.
I never sought to become a fan,.... it just seemed too morbid an idea, all things considering. I live in the country, in the deep-woods, and spend a Great deal of time working, outdoors on one project or another,.....most wood-related things like carpentry and carving fascinate me,... I Love the songs of nature in my woods, while I'm working,.... I have both a red-tailed hawk lives deep on my property (I've seen her nest and her fledglings around the base of the ancient oak tree,.... I wished her and her family well, and left them quickly,... I have a Huge Barred Owl who rules the night at Starwood,... he/she has frequently visited in the day, to sit on a high limb next to the end of the house where the trees all around come up and touch the house,... my upstairs windows look out from a grande treehouse height, over my green canopied domain..... Starwood is my heaven on Earth place of quiet refuge,... my retreat from the rat-race where I work and recharge my batteries,... and read late at night,....I have a separate Library building,... but no TV or cable, or internet (I get on at Wendys, or the library or a motel room) and no plumbing or AC etc. it's a Bohemian existence, but a satisfying one, for the creative soul of me.

Anyway,... you must have also been born in 1950 ?
What a Cool year to arrive,... every 10 years is it's own whole block of discoveries,.... 10 in 1960, 20 in 1970 etc. I remember the 70s, I was in my 20s the whole time,....80s ? my 30s, 90s? my 40s.
ten year milestones,.... gee,... what can we look back on in 5 more years, and tell of our accomplishments of the 2000-teens !
Hopefully they'll be good and memorable in accomplishments.
As we reenactors say when we make a new friend "Well met"

 

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  posted on 8/17/2015 at 03:38 PM
Birthdate 3-30-50. We have red tailed hawks and owls up here in New York also. And turkeys. Very nice reading your posts. I remember when I heard that Duane Allman died. At the time (10-29-71), I wasn't in to them much at all. A couple of months later that CHANGED RADICALLY.

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  posted on 8/17/2015 at 03:57 PM
I spent 5 years in the Cape Cod area, my first years of school. The area I live in now, looks MUCH like 'Up-state New York' so it's indeed beautiful.
 

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  posted on 8/17/2015 at 06:48 PM
This is a great read and Windsinger is one of the best. And I still read the other side of the story a couple time s a year Thanks Windsinger!
Dan

 

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