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  posted on 11/13/2006 at 04:26 PM
This is overall a good show, Liz Reed gets pretty intense, I just have one question.

Why does Mountain Jam sorta "crap out" around 5:00, then suddenly picks up after the drum solo. Was the recorder shut off? and is it possible to get a full version or is that it?

 
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  posted on 11/13/2006 at 07:53 PM
Sorry, the version I have has the same interruption. Interesting show, though . . dig the waa-waa in Dickey's Liz Reed solo.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 08:10 AM


That Liz Reed is smoking, one of my favourites .

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 08:14 AM


My mountain jam does the same thing

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 11:11 AM
Anybody know what dates the versions of the songs from the Grateful Dead release of this run are or a good link. I've always wondered that.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 03:52 PM
I tried to figure that out one day, made some notes, then quit in frustration. I just started again with the same result. I'll bet the folks that put it together either
A) Weren't sure themselves and didn't want to spread misinformation , or
B) Are laughing at me right now because they knew not labeling it would send ABB geeks scurrying for their hard drives, CDs, and meticulously annotated setlists.

As far as I can figure out, it depends on how you date what you have. . . .
I have (I think) two different ABB shows that claim to be from that run- 02/11/70 (Dickey wah wah solo in Liz Reed), which I'm pretty confident of for some reason, and another which is either 02/13/70 or 02/14/70. I have three versions of this second one. Two have ("southern comfort")Liz Reed, ("bad sex symbol") Hoochie Coochie Man, Statesboro Blues, ("Chico Hamilton")Trouble No More, Move to the Outskirts . . , Whipping Post, Mtn Jam. The other is identical, but missing Statesboro . . . and Trouble . . . .
etree (which, I'm sorry, I don't trust for much) would have you believe that this second show I'm refering to is two different shows. I have a suspicion that it is the same show, one version just has less songs. What date that show is (most relevant to your original question, Rob) I don't know.
So there's my answer:
I don't know.

Damn good music though . . .

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 04:51 PM
Why d'you have to do that!! Now I've dug 'em out!!

2-13-70

1). (Southern Comfort) Liz Reed 9-19
2). Hoochie 6:00
3) Statesboro 4:18
4) Trouble No More 4:12
5) Outskirts of town 8:27
6) Post 8:11
7) Mountain J 30:48

2-14-70

Oh jeez ................ you're right it seems to be a meld of 2-11 and the 2-13 disks . I see where you went nuts on it, cause i am now ... flippin disks like a mad man ........ I'll have to come back to this !

Air support?

[Edited on 11/14/2006 by scotiadave]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 06:40 PM

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 08:20 PM
I emailed with Bear a few years ago - a very cantakerous fellow - and he made the following pretty it clear (although I have trouble believing him).....
1. The Allmans played the "exact same set" all three nights.
2. the songs selected were not from one particular show.
3. He did not select the songs on the CD.....the ABB organization did - I'm sure that would have to be Kirk....
4. He did not care for all the selections on the CD (felt there were better versions other nights I guess) When I asked him why (a few times) he said - ask the Allmans....
not the best of replies....but perhaps that's Bear....
I also asked him about the GD 5/10/70 Atlanta show tape - and the GD borrowing the Allmans sound rig - he said it never happened....but he was in jaill at the time....like I said - a very cantakerous fellow.......

[Edited on 11/15/2006 by PeachNutt]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 09:13 PM
very interesting..... i'm getting the 2-11 and 2-14 show in a trade soon so i guess i'll just have a listen and enjoy as is


as far as the official release goes, I pulled it back out and found it's one of my favorite archive releases (although i have yet to obtain 9-19-71)...... there's some smoking stuff on there.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2006 at 10:41 PM
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That Liz Reed is smoking, one of my favourites
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My mountain jam does the same thing
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there's some smoking stuff on there.

Where there's smoke . . .

 

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  posted on 11/15/2006 at 11:53 AM
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Bear - a very cantakerous fellow -

Back high school in the previous millenium, when alliegences were held dear out of an adolescent desire to belong to something, there was a small ABB/Dead rivalry. Not quite the Sharks and Jets, more of a "Don't harsh my mellow" kind of thing. Kind of funny to think of it now, but maybe some people never grow out of it.
By the way, with all due respect to the deadhead in all of us, here is my latest favorite joke:

How many Deadheads does it take to change a lightbulb?
12,001. One to change it, 2,000 to record the event and take pictures of it, and 10,000 to follow it around until it burns out.

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  posted on 11/15/2006 at 08:57 PM
Rob,

for your own well being....please immediately order the ABB 9/19/71 Archive show.....
if you have any regrets.....I'll buy it back from you......but you won't!!!

 

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  posted on 11/16/2006 at 10:51 AM
9-19-71- GREAT show. My only two cents - The sound on the first 4 songs sounds a little "washed out". It then clears up early into "One Way Out" to an excellent soundboard. I think "Stormy Monday" rivals, if not beats out the one on @FE. Top shelf Allmans show.
 

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  posted on 11/16/2006 at 08:34 PM
Spoonbelly,
9/19/71 -
If memory serves (LOL!!!) the 1st 4 songs are from the early show....
the rest of the material is from the late show....

Rob - you MUST buy this show!!

 

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  posted on 11/17/2006 at 04:56 PM
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Spoonbelly,
9/19/71 -
If memory serves (LOL!!!) the 1st 4 songs are from the early show....
the rest of the material is from the late show....

Rob - you MUST buy this show!!



yeah I know..... i've been really poor lately

This is going to be a purchase very soon or it will be on my xmas list

 

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  posted on 11/23/2006 at 09:41 AM
I was at the 02-11-1970 Late Show. I know they opened with Liz Reed and I know they closed with Mountain Jam. I don't remember what the songs were in between, or any of Duane's spoken intro's, ie. "sex symbo," etc.

It is truly incredible that almost 37 years later, I can listen to commercially available CDs of The Allman's set, a few tracks that Love recorded and the Grateful Dead's set. And on "bootleg" CDs, I can relive what is arguably the best jam ever to take place in rock 'n' roll history - The Dead, Duane, Dickey, Gregg, Berry, Peter Green, Danny Kirwin, Jeremy Spencer and Mick Fleetwood (he danced).

After the show ended, I was walking behind 2 of the members of Love. Remember, they were just on stage playing at the FE themselves. All they could talk about was how magical the jam was. I followed them for a few extra blocks just to hear what they said. Their excitement confirmed my feelings that I had just heard some very special music.

By the way, I had just turned 18. If you had told me that 37 years later I would be writing this on Thanksgiving morning, let alone still be alive, I would have asked you what kind of "medication" you were on. For the record, I was completely straight (except for whatever seond hand smoke I breathed in), but the music took me higher than any drugs or alcohol could.

Happy T'ky Day.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2006 at 10:22 AM
2Old -
thanks for sharing..... happy turkeys away!!!

 

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  posted on 11/23/2006 at 12:16 PM
Great story 2old2boogie, thanks
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours

 

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