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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 11:26 AM
I have the lp version on my Ipod and at time 6:04-6:06, there is someone talking behind the music but cannot figure out what it is. I suspect it is one of the musicians expressing some note of approval with the "jam" at that point but can't be certain.

And, how many of you enjoy like I do when the old Duane live shows have him(?) grunting or expressing approval at some passage or another?

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 11:34 AM
I think they said "Paul is dead".

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:02 PM
Loggins and Messina Angry Eyes ?

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:17 PM
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Loggins and Messina Angry Eyes ?


That's what I'm thinking. If so, it's one of my favorites!! Brings back some pretty awesome memories

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:25 PM
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That's what I'm thinking. If so, it's one of my favorites!! Brings back some pretty awesome memories



I still love and play that song...a lot.....Great song.

I also love the song "Good Friend" that Loggins and Messina did.

2nd show I ever saw...was early 70's...Doobie Brothers with Loggins and Messina at Municipal Auditorium in Atlanta....both bands were great.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:34 PM
I think he says "give me a taste of that"...although I could be mistaken...

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:34 PM
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That's what I'm thinking. If so, it's one of my favorites!! Brings back some pretty awesome memories
Great song, great extended jam. Good memories.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:36 PM
Pathway to Glory another effn great extended song by Loggins and Messina.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:37 PM
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I think they said "Paul is dead".
Tried playing it backwards?

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:45 PM
That's a favorite song of mine too

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 12:48 PM
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That's a favorite song of mine too



Hey Sue !

I was just thinking...I hardly see you post over here........

Usually your doing political debates (which you do well ! ) at The Whipping Post.

Hope life is treating you good....it's been much better for me.

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 01:25 PM
Goliath wrote:
"I think he says "give me a taste of that"...although I could be mistaken..."

Hi ol man, will have to give a listen again, cause it goes so fast.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 02:08 PM
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LMAO!!!! Actually, they're saying "Cranberry Sauce"!

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 09:53 PM
If you have a graphic equalizer, turn the upper freq's way down, and the lower freq's way down and the middle few freq ranges wayyyyy up. Record it to tape, then slow the tape down to 2/3rds speed. You can then clearly hear: "Carlos, kill the evil ones, Carlos kill the evil ones"........

I saw them in 75 in New Mexico...... I loved that show...... the crowd was 3/4's women..........

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 09:57 PM
Saw them at SPAC on their final tour.

Very under rated band.

Those guys could jam.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2006 at 10:39 PM
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Hey girl!

I love that song, too, and I haven't heard it in years. It's a really timeless song to me, can fit all different situations. I first heard it when I was 16 or so; 25 years later, I was thinking it was written for my own 16 year old daughter

 

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  posted on 9/23/2006 at 11:31 AM
Saw them at Seton Hall in 75,South Orange NJ.

I vote Kenny Loggins maybe the biggest sell out musically from that era. Not that I would not sell out if I had something to sell and someone asked me. BUT if you have his first couple of solo efforts they are pretty good and then they fade into music that nauseates me.

Jim Messina has a pretty impressive resume,BuffaloSpringfield,Poco, and Loggin and Messina.

Watched the reunion tour on PBS awhile back. I enjoyed hearing the old tunes again,they penned some great songs. Kenny eat a sandwhich,I thought he was going to fall off the stool from the accoustic guitars force pulling downwards.

 

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  posted on 9/23/2006 at 11:41 AM
Messina on the Poco Deliverin' LP was fantastic.

 

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  posted on 9/23/2006 at 11:42 AM
"That's my little brother singing" 9/19/71 Stonybrook Archive.....love it...


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  posted on 9/23/2006 at 11:43 AM
i listened to DTB Songlines again yesterday via headphones.....there's a good deal of talking in the background on this one too....

 

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cut me down with those angry eyes ...................................

 

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That's Brother Duane saying that.... and PeachNuTT is allegedly gary
personally, I'm not so sure......LOL

 

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somebody had to...

 

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  posted on 9/23/2006 at 12:18 PM
A connection between Loggins and Messina and ther Allmans, as told to me by John McEuen of the the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band back in 2002,

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John, tell me about the first time you met Duane Allman.

The Dirt band was on it's first road trip, going through Saint Louis and my brother and I went down to see this group called the Allman Joys and they were absolutely incredible. Bill (Bill McEuen went on to manage the Hourglass in California as well as Steve Martin and Nitty Gritty) convinced them, later that month when we got back to L.A., to come out to L.A. to try and make it. They came out and moved in with the Dirt Band, we all had a house that we were living in at the time in Beechwood Canyon.


Was there a name for the house? It seems all band houses back then had names.

We called it the Dirt House. It's funny you should ask that question. It was a four floor Beechwood Canyon Hollywood house and they took over the top floor and spent a lot of time playing. They opened for us on a couple of shows and they were a new band in town so they could get some shows. Duane was absolutely incredible and Gregg was wonderful, you could tell he (Gregg) had the energy, he wasn't a 'wannabe,' and the band was real good. Johnny Sandlin played bass on a Dirt Band recording called "Collegiana" (on the album "Rare Junk", Liberty records 1968), a 1928 year song, from that time period, which was really cool.

The Allman Joys didn't work out. The record company said,'We think you need a different name', and they called them The Hourglass. They tried to make it a sixties thing - you know, nobody knew what they were doing. Record companies didn't know what they were doing. They don't make records, they distribute records, and quite often they think they actually 'make' records, so they find a group with a lot of energy, and they think they should dress one way or another, or should record one way or another. If they had just gone ahead and recorded what the Hourglass was doing, what the Allman Joys were doing, and just called them the "Allmans' it would have been fine. That wasn't the pattern to be in during that time period, and possibly the group wasn't really ready.

Duane was absolutely great to the point where when they played at Whiskey's (The legendary nightclub The Whiskey a Go Go in L.A. that the Doors and others made famous) the place was packed. Three Dog Night would come in and sit there the whole night. In fact they (Three Dog Night) took- it might have been 'Try a Little Tenderness,' it was either that or some other song that they just lifted right off the Allman Brothers stage, and went into the studio that week, and put it out two weeks later and it was a smash.

The Allman's lived in our house for about a month and then they found an apartment, in the Mikado apartments, and they tried to make the Hourglass thing work for a while at Liberty records where they made two albums. But thanks to the drug scene of the sixties and the attractiveness of it, quite often Duane couldn't even play when he was in the studio because he was into Southern Comfort as well as the local drug establishment. And it would mess them up and so sometimes Pete Carr would end playing on some of those recordings. I don't know if anyone kept track of who is on what songs, but Pete was a great understudy. But when Duane was on it you could tell that he was truly a great one. The last time I talked to him was at the Atlanta airport. He gave me an Eat a Peach shirt and said 'Yeah, I'm clean now, I've been playing like I used to play.' Then Duane said 'Get that banjer out and play me a tune.' 'Well, Duane,' I said, 'Were kind of sitting here in the Atlanta airport.' Duane said, 'Anybody that doesn't want to hear a banjer can just walk off. I want to hear you pick.' It was neat. We sat there for about half an hour and played. I usually would play at the drop of a hat anyway. There were a few people who gathered around, it was a nice little thing. It was just a different time back then. It didn't matter, we just sat there and played, I would play in waiting areas anyway. Those were different days of flying. I could carry my banjo on the plane.


Tell me the story about Gregg's song,"Not my Cross to Bear."

Back in 1968 it didn't work out for the Hourglass and they broke up and Gregg stayed behind and tried to make something happen with my brother managing him. Bill put him together with Larry Simms and Merle Bregante, bass and drums, who were from the group Sunshine Company who had three hits and had broken up.


Had Duane left California at that point?

Yes, everybody but Gregg had gone back to various parts of the South. Gregg stayed out in L.A. and was writing songs and trying to put them together. I recorded him, he came over one afternoon and he had a couple of songs- you know, it was just the way it was, it was two miles from where I was living, he came by and I set up my recording equipment for his new song 'Not My Cross to Bear' that he wanted to put on tape. A tape I still have. He had just written it that week, before the Allman Brothers had done it. Boy, was it slow. But you could hear the voice there, you could hear the power of the song. Although things didn't work out with Larry and Merle being his rhythm section, those two went on to be in Loggins and Messina for the next 8 years and played on all those records.

 

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