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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 02:04 PM
only 20 of you lucky ones can hear this
about to kick off

http://theslideshow.audio-stream.com/

try that link out
click on your player format
and please report any issues



[Edited on 10/30/2005 by Skydogj]

 

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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 03:01 PM
up next is a band from Florida

 

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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 03:03 PM
I'nm hearing "Jessica"

 

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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 03:04 PM
... but I'm gettin the come and go blues, because the stream breaks up ... a little.

 

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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 03:07 PM
sorry
bout that....
guess I need to stop playing Omaha lol




is it distorting?
I can only check my levels and hope not
I can't hear what other people hear

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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 03:24 PM
It sounds pretty good. It's broke up a few times but I've heard bits of Jessica, Ain't Wastin' Time No More and now Dreams. It's cool! Glad I checked the board and found out about this.

 

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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 06:14 PM
bump
Capricorn artist up next
Scott and Leroy and Johnnhy are all on stage getting set up


tune in

 

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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 07:55 PM
When is Lefty playng???

 

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  posted on 10/29/2005 at 10:58 PM
The stream is down - he must be playing now......

 

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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 09:54 AM
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The stream is down - he must be playing now......



the stream went down because Carl Weaver is a fat a ss F-U-C-K-E-R who had no business being associated with the Jam for Duane.
instead of knocking his teeth down his throat while he was liquored up and jumping my tail about video taping Capricorn(which I wasn't, I was watching the previous band footage), I decided to pull the plug and get out of there.
I told Brent that if Weaver (and I guess with Weaver that means Sandlin) or his shi tty club is involved with this again, I ain't coming back to Gadsden.
From the Time I walked in 2nd Street Music, Carl Weaver was on my ass.

His place of music deserves to go out of business, and if he treats everyone that walks in the way he treated me all day yesterday, he is in a 50,000 sink hole.
Was it the ticket prices that kept everyone away during the month??
I say is was Carl Weaver.

there was only one thorn tree in the garden yesterday, and that dictator owned the club.
I am not through with my rant, just for now.
there was a lot more he was doing that wasn't in the spirit of THE JAM FOR DUANE that Brent built.
will there be any CDs from this years JAM FOR DUANE? probably not

 

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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 11:20 AM
I was at the JFD for awhile. My first one. Jam started 2 hours late (that's what I CAME for, to jam, hence "Jam for Duane"), I got to play two songs, was charged double to get in( it was supposed to be a free jam with a $10 donation), I was charged $20. The guys right after me got to jam for one song, and then the "real bands" started coming in. I stayed for the first two, neither of which jammed, or played any ABB or Duane tunes. I thought the whole purpose was to remember Duane and his music. I heard none except the three song "jam session" that was actually ABB songs. (We did "One Way Out" and "Done Somebody Wrong"). I have been to events like this before and I guess I just expected more organization. I am not blaming anyone in particular, just was very dissappointed with the fact there was no real jamming or ABB music. Just my opinion and I could be wrong. Peace and peaches, Drummy
 

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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 12:39 PM
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Thanks for all the work you did.

Hai



 

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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 12:40 PM
well, drummy
right before that
we played Stormy Monday, Key to the Highway and Hurts me too...all 3 song are songs that Duane played on in either ABB, Derek and the Dominoes form or sitting in with the Dead at the Fillmore

it started late because Carl Weaver wasn't ready when the posted times on the website came.
We(brent, myself and several others) were there by 11am and we were told to wait outside.
Jam was supposed to start at 1, but no one got to go inside to nearly 12:30
That is not Brents fault, but the venue.


I was gonna mention the fact of paying money too....but later
I saw Carl tell the hostess to do it like that, then Tom S told Brent what was going on when she tried to pull it on him and Diane. Brent walked over and corrected her, and the next person that came through, she did the same thing. 10 bucks to get in, 10 dollar donation.
I was set up right behind the sign in table, I saw it all...over and over.

I am dissappointed I didn't get to see Lefty's band, Brents band or the CRS play, all because some drunk fool of an owner was on my ass from noon till 6:30


Come back next year drummy, I know it will be different. It has never been like this before. Randy and Brent went out on a limb this time to pull this off and it bit them hard at times. Brent told me last night that they will not deal with Weaver anymore.
I thought the music from all bands and jams I did get to see was excellent.
I am sure 90% of everyone there had a complete blast, but they were not getting pushed around by venue management.


also, back to the video thing, I tried to get Weaver to come look at the video and find any recorded parts of CRS, but I couldn't get a word in. He already made up his small mind that I was filming, and as he said to me..."If I catch your ass doing anything else, your ass is on the street. I told you not to video and you did it anyway. This is not a 1, 2, 3, 4 chance thing. Next time, your ass is out!!"

I nodded my head to agree with him, to get him to shut up and out of my face and I told him "F-U, we will leave now".


I drove 6 hours round trip, paid for 2 nights of lodging(stayed 1) and took off a day of work to come be a part of this, and now I have some fat thug riding me about where I can and can't setup, who I can and can't record(audio or video), when I can come in and then cuss me out in front of my girl and others around. Thanks for the memories Carl, you are one class act. Here, have another drink!




[Edited on 10/30/2005 by Skydogj]

 

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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 04:38 PM
Jason,

It was very nice meeting you and your pretty, sweet girlfriend at the Jam. I appreciate very much your allowing Lee Roy's fan, Ruthie and I to sit with you at your table. I was standing at the door when you two left and did not know what had happened. I appreciate your sharing this with us because I definitely knew that something bad had happened to you by the expression on your face and for you to shut down like that.

There was a taper that was stealth taping who is not a part of our ABB family. This person does not freely share their tapes so I doubt if anyone will get a copy of any of the shows.

I am so sorry that you were treated like that because the Jam is all about love and memories of Duane.

 

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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 05:15 PM
Skydogj it was great meeting you and I am sorry that you had the experience that you had.

I am posting in defense of what you posted because it happened to me also. I was asked to double my donation even when I presented my ticket. That's very strange....almost like a shakedown...I would've paid many times over the donation if I knew that beforehand.

Nothing at all against Brent and Randy. They shall always remain pure and untouchable when it comes to the JFD.

I'd like to suggest that the JFD be moved to Macon. Is that too much to ask? Many of us have come from very long distances to be at the Jam and this Weaver guy just doesn't seem to 'get it'. If I am wrong here, then please somebody set me straight.

It made no sense to me to be watching a great musical experience and at the same time seeing Brofan at the door, unable to get in.

Way too strange, Randy and Brent, for such a fantastic experience. I say ditch Gadsden and go to Macon. Not because it is closer to me, but because I don't feel the respect you guys deserve.

Please prove me wrong. I need a reason to set foot in Weavers place next year. Peach!!

 

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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 05:41 PM
I'm not sure what happened with Jason, wasn't there. I know about the attitude, been dealing with it for months too. What I do know, as to the door charge situation, as soon as it was brought to Brent's attention, he went to the girl at the door, explained in clear terms that the Jam was a free event, all contributions were voluntary. Could have been a communication problem, I wasn't there, don't know. At least one other situation came up where Brent had to take a stand, it was resolved. Last thing I said to Brent was to take a couple days to rest, then consider the big picture. I told him he has my total support.
 
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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 06:27 PM
Brent has my total support too
not knocking him nor randy at all
what they do to make this event happen is beyond anything I could put time into.
hats off to those GREAT GUYS.
they are my brothers :-D
I know who I am pissed at, and Randy, you can print this thread and send to the head himself.

I am not making this **** up. Emily will tell ya the same thing, cause she brought it to my attention.
I was as close as you could get to the sign in table without sitting at it. Brent did go tell the sign in desk about the donation thing, and it was a free event and when he walked off, she kept on keeping on. 10 bucks, plus 10 buck donation.
it really wasn't my place to say anything. That is Brent and the venue's deal. I know what Brent said, and that is what I followed. There were a ton of people standing around outside all day....wonder if that had anything to do with it
Also, brent got part of the story from me last night just before I left. I told him to grab my Yellow cord from the stage for me and he asked if I was leaving, and I told him I couldn't deal with Carl's **** anymore.
(I wasn't about to get on stage and get it prior to packing up my stuff, figure Weaver would have had a sheet fit. I also left my Orange extention cable running from the board area to where I was....foothills said he would grab it and send it too me...no biggie).
I told him he had been riding my ass all day. I told brent at 11 am that morning, that I might have trouble with Weaver because of his attitude then. I was gonna get it prior to leaving, but CRS had started by then. Now Brent could have told him a thousand times that what I was doing was cool, but it wouldn't have gotten through his(weavers) thick skull. He is a control freak, and he didn't like others having a say in his venue.




aside from all my problems
I had a freaking blast and Emily did too.
saw all kinds of great folks from here and had some great conversations with Tom S, Diane(gw), foothills, Kevin and Carol, Brent, bluefox, Tommy B, Lefty, Carole, Betty, Dick B, goliath and the list goes on and on


I guess I was the only one that threatened to get kicked out of a free event....lol

 

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  posted on 10/30/2005 at 11:13 PM
Man Jason, I am so sorry to read all this. I didn't see any of it happen, except for when the girl at the sign-in table tried to charge us $40 bucks to get in, and I figured that when Brent laid down the law they would respect it from there.

Brent has always been the brains and backbone of the JFD, but I was heavily involved in getting the first one off the ground along with him. I know Brent's heart and I know it pains him deeply that anyone is angry or hurt over the one thing in all our lives that has never been anything but an expression of love and respect for Duane and his musical legacy.

The true dichotomy is that this year the turnout was record-shattering and the talent that showed up was beyond any of our wildest dreams when we got this thing started. We just wanted to play and bask in the Brotherhood, and a four-year run without a hitch ain't a bad track record from my estimation.

I also know Jason's heart, and if Weaver was a big enough as*hole to make him say F You, then there's no doubt in my mind that it was justified. Even without Jason's problems with Weaver though, I have been very concerned about where this was headed since a couple or three months ago when GW and I went to see Jimmy Hall in that club. The club is nice enough, and of course if Johnny Sandlin is involved in setting up the sound equipment and recording gear, it's going to always be well-suited for live music. But I had a short conversation with Randy that night about how the JFD was going to work. I didn't get the vibe from Weaver that we had gotten the two previous years from Bobby Welch, which was very generous and accomodating with no apparent strings attached. I asked Randy that night if taping was going to be out and he assureed me that it wouldn't be on Saturday, but would be on Thursday and Friday before the JFD. That's fair I thought, but I must say, I still had an uncomfortable feeling about it. Go with the flow, it's always worked out right before....

Until we walked in yesterday. Actually, until we parked our car and walked up to everyone standing outside and the tension was already in the air. None of this is intended to suggest that Randy did anything wrong or uncool either. He was just the messenger that first alerted me to the gathering storm, whether that was his intention or not.

Here's the bottom line for me: When Brent and I started organizing the first JFD we talked at least 3 or 4 times a week for several weeks leading up to it. I remember Brent saying many times that it didn't matter if it was only him and me that showed up, we were gonna pay tribute to Brother Duane and feel good and have fun. Paying tribute was what it was all about, not paying for the privilege of paying tribute, and Jason is right, Weaver doesn't get that in the slightest. But in reality, I don't think it's fair to expect him to get it. He's a business man with hundreds of thousands of dollars tied up in making his club a draw for big name acts. Johnny Sandlin's involvement in that club is of course a huge draw for us fans, but if we sacrifice the true meaning of the event just to have Johnny and CRS and Lee Roy Parnell participate, then we've allowed a complete bastardization of Brent's vision to transpire. With that in mind, I'd be all too happy to move back to the Oneonta Railroad Depot and do this thing even if it's still just me and Brent. There's only one name that should mean anything to the participants of this event, and that's Duane Allman. I would love to think that folks like Johnny and Lee Roy and all the others would participate on that basis alone every year, but hey, everyone's gotta make a living and those are busy, professional people. All I'm trying to say is that the Jam For Duane is just that, FOR Duane, not for stroking our own egos because our little tribute party evolves into some big-name-attracting commercial concern.

I will never say that I will boycott the JFD under any circumstances, but I do hereby state my bid for bringing it back to basics. Carl Weaver will never qualify as a basic part of the event. It's about something for him which is completely contrary to what the event is supposed to be about. Personally, I think we've got some soul-searching to do over the next few months. I hope what we find at the end of that search is the enthusiasm and devotion that is indicitive of the labor-of-love philosophy that Brent has always had and still maintains. But Bro, I'll always be there to help any way I can no matter what you decide.

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  posted on 10/31/2005 at 08:00 AM
Very well said, Tom.

Jason, I had no idea that you had the problems you had. You have my sympathies. I hope it all gets resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

I pesonally had a great time. I hope that Brent and Randy realize how much we appreciate all the time and hard work they (and countless others) have put into the Jam this year. Musically, it was stellar. And with all the HTWers present, it was a monumental gathering of the tribe we call our online family. It was a ball, plain and simple.

 

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I want to echo what Dave said, I had an absolutely wonderful time too. If it had been any more fun and fulfilling for me, there'd have had to be two of me to handle it! The only thing that could've made it more enjoyable is if I didn't have this killer cold to go along with my other fairly severe health problems, which some of you know about, and which others don't want to hear me whining about, I'm sure.

The fact that we had such a blast is why I didn't mention any of my negative thoughts about the venue in my GB review of the event. Then when I looked in on this thread and heard what Jason had to go through, well, I think it was appropriate to state my piece on that issue. Still doesn't lessen how great the shows were or how familial the atmosphere was among everyone. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but I got more hugs from more people I haven't seen in a long time than any other event in my life! SistaBluz, skybyrd13, foothills, Kevin and Carol McDonald, bluefox, brofan and a bunch more are all people who have really meant something in my life, and no Jabba The Weaver is gonna take that away from any of us.

I sure won't argue with anyone who says the 5th Annual Jam For Duane was as much fun as can be had by humans, but we still gotta sit down and figure out how to prevent things like what happened to Jason from happening again. Jason was there at the beginning too and has always been generous with his time and expensive equipment so that we could carry our memories long into the future. He has earned his place in the family as much as Brent or any of the rest of us have. And besides that, did you guys hear how freakin' far Jason has come on slide guitar???? He is a Duane-devotee of the first order and he deserves our support as much anyone else.

Tom S.

 

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  posted on 10/31/2005 at 09:23 AM
I am really, really sorry to hear about this. I know how much this means to people like Brent, Tom and Randy, it's a very spiritual thing to them and it's a shame that somebody had to ruin the vibe they have worked so hard to cultivate over the past few years.

I'm sure that vibe can be recreated someplace else in the future. It's about the music, not the venue. I really enjoyed the first Jam in the old railroad depot. For that matter, concerning Dan's Macon suggestion, they have a great new venue there called Little Carnegie of the South that would be perfect for such an event. It's right down the street from the Big House, which would make it that much more appropriate. Folks could do the whole Macon pilgrimage and the JFD in the same weekend. Hmmm...

I just want to thank the Alabama crew for their spirit and dedication, and you guys know that Hittin' the Note is always happy to help the Jam For Duane in any way we possibly can.

 
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  posted on 10/31/2005 at 09:32 AM
I agree that Dan's suggestion bears consideration. How possible would it be to do JFD in conjunction with GABBAfest? I missed not having GABBAfest this year, but JFD was pretty awesome in and of itself. Maybe now is not too early for the JFD and GABBAfest camps to brainstorm on this idea?

 

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  posted on 10/31/2005 at 10:54 AM
I vote for Macon. The whole Macon history with the ABB would make it even more meaningful as far as I am concerned.
I also was confronted with the shakedown at the door Saturday. I arrived about 1 PM. I had my ticket and she asked for $10 to which I replied I thought that was what the ticket was for and she backed off. In fact, I had already paid $20 for Sat because I bought two tix.
I witnessed Carls hard ass attitude and throwing several people out.
This man has a problem!
The club will not make it with an attitude like that.
I had a blast and loved being with everyone. This was my first JFD so I don't have anything to compare it to.

[Edited on 10/31/2005 by jamgram]

 

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  posted on 10/31/2005 at 11:18 AM
thanks for all the kind words and support folks
really means a lot
like I told Lefty in a PM, I never in my wildest dreams imagined that happening to anyone at the JFD, total shocked and blindsided by that type of vibe.
Weaver has no clue.


as for moving the JFD, I ain't much on that. I love Gadsden and Randy and Brent have more control there than anywhere else cept Oneonta, but it is not as big as Gadsden.
I love going to Gadsden, always will. My statements about not coming back to Gadsden were only if the Jam was at 2nd Street Music.
I know Brent and Randy will work hard on finding a new place to host next year....before too long, 2nd Street will not have enough room to house all the fans coming in anyway...possible to outgrow it next year.
So many folks came this year...and every year, more and more and more...almost doubling it seems every year.

the Word is out, the vibes are Strong
No man can stop the spirit now
Before long...within 5-10 years, I can see this becoming one huge event that every peachhead will come to attend...and if we can keep the message moving about what we want to do to honor Duane, more and more big acts will be happy to attend.

 

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  posted on 10/31/2005 at 11:29 AM
in the end, this is about Duane...that is why we came....many came a long way..for duane..

 

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