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  posted on 12/16/2004 at 08:30 PM
I am in an argumaent with some of my friends about what is better: American strats or mexican strats. I am in favor of the american strats, but i am a terrible arguer and have nothing to say, so any comments would be helpful.
 
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  posted on 12/16/2004 at 09:25 PM
American strats for me.

 

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  posted on 12/16/2004 at 10:13 PM
American...its not even really a debate. I believe only the lower end models are Mexican-made but that might have changed in the last couple of years...It makes sense when you think about it that the American made ones would be superior - better quality control...

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  posted on 12/17/2004 at 10:06 AM
I have both an American Strat and a Mexican Strat and the American model is far superior.

The Mexican model has lousy hardware and lousy pickups, and it NEVER stayed in tune. I thinks it's the old.....you get what you pay for deal....there's a reason that the American models cost twice as much as the Mexican ones.

 

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  posted on 12/17/2004 at 11:09 AM
The American strats are by far better than the Mexican strats. I've got a 1956 Strat that needs a lot of work on it, and I've also got a Fender Strat with the Lace Sensor pickups.

 

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  posted on 12/17/2004 at 08:05 PM
Guitar shop techs told me that the pickups arent that different on americans than mexicans. He told me that the Americans and the mexicans were just about the same despite the mane and pride of having been made in the US. But the hardware and pickups proably are a little better on Americans

 

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  posted on 12/20/2004 at 07:54 AM
I've played a few Mexican Strats and Teles that were a good deal for the price, but they don't stand up against VINTAGE American Fenders. But I'd still take a good Mex-Strat over the Hondos and Teiscos we could afford when we started playing in the 70's. There are some great bargains in guitars today if you can look past the old "where it was made" prejudices. I read in Vintage guitar that China is starting to make some high-end acoustics that rival ANYTHING any factory is making anywhere in the world today.
 

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  posted on 12/20/2004 at 10:05 AM
Stratmaster, would you like to buy any product made by someone who's just been pulled off the street, or .............. would you rather buy from someone who has been making the same product for years with pride? Having said that the people in Fender's Fullerton Plant are probably immigrants from Mexico. I know for a fact that Victor Wooten's brother Regi plays a squire and supposedly the dude in Los Lonely Boys plays a Mexi strat. (He probably knows someone in the plant who made it personally for him. Lol!) The bottom line is this: Regi Wooten and the cat for Los Lonely Boys will play better with a cheap Mexi strat than I will with a $10,000 custom shop model; however they would probably play even better with higher grade equipment. Also just for argumentative purposes a cheap Mexi strat will always be that. It will never be worth more than what it initally sold for which is what $100.00-$300.00. Never. Unless of course it was signed by somebody famous and that has nothing to do with playability. You can buy used Mexi strats all day for less than $100.00. On the other end American made strats can and often do appreciate in value. The natural strat I purchased new in 82 for $700.00-$800.00 is worth more than that. At least I wouldn't take less than that for it.

Just a little something else a friend of mine who toured the Fender plant years ago said the Mexicans that they have putting new strings on all the guitars can put on a set in like 7 seconds. Amazing!

 

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  posted on 12/26/2004 at 06:11 PM
I have my American Standard and I love it, but Im looking for a new guitar....(Don't wanna spend so much money)....Im gonna buy a Mexican Strat!!!!!!, just played one yesterday and sounded good to me)......It's not the guitar price.......is the player!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 12/29/2004 at 06:31 PM
I just got my American a couple months ago. What do you guys think about the new post 2000 guitars and what their value will be some day. I can't see them being that much more valuble in years to come. I'm holding on to mine anyway 'cause i have that whole sentimental thing goin on but oh well.
 

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  posted on 1/20/2005 at 09:05 PM
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  posted on 1/20/2005 at 09:10 PM
it basically boils down to weather you want a guitar made by a mexican living in mexico or one living in the usa... not to be racist or anything, but that is how it is.

 

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  posted on 1/20/2005 at 10:44 PM
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What on Earth does that mean?

 
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  posted on 1/21/2005 at 06:50 AM
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it basically boils down to weather you want a guitar made by a mexican living in mexico or one living in the usa... not to be racist or anything, but that is how it is.


NOT TO BE RACIST OR ANYTHING....... sure, not at all. There are a few ignorant posts in this thread- racism as a joke is still racism. If you can look past your ignorance for just a minute here, Mexicans have been building guitars since long before there was a Fulerton, California, or even a California, for that matter.The guitar as an instrument is a many generations-old way of life in Mexico.Keith Richards once said he loves to go down to Mexico,because everyone plays guitar there, a little kid on the corner can play better than he can. And just exactly why would an American necessarily have better woodworking skills than a Mexican? Or a Korean or a Chinese? It's got NOTHING to do with where it is built geographically, it has to do with how much the company is willing to invest in wages(relative to the wages in that country, not compared to wages in the US), equiptment, and quality control. Get over the US- is automatically better thinking, and you just might find some incredible deals out there. Or do you still give someone a hard time for buying a Honda?

 

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  posted on 1/21/2005 at 07:33 AM
I have an clapton Strat, signed by Dicky BTW, and I love it. i had a Mexican Strat a few years ago and honestly the guitar sounded and played fine. The gentleman who setsup my guitars told me the only problem he has seen with the mex strats is with the necks twisting? I have never encountered that but I aint a guitar tech......
 

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  posted on 1/21/2005 at 09:27 AM
Is that a Honda made in the US or in Japan, radio-x? Never fiqured you for one of the PC gestapo. I have to say that I'm in agreement with stratmaster and I'll certainly stand by my earlier post that an American made strat, LP or guitar in general will always be worth more than a Mexi, Jap or Korean made guitar in resale value.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2005 at 10:21 AM
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(He probably knows someone in the plant who made it personally for him. Lol!)


Do you know every white guy in Canada?Lol!

 

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  posted on 1/21/2005 at 02:08 PM
Why sure, hey. Like what's your point, hey.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2005 at 03:22 PM
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Keith Richards once said he loves to go down to Mexico,because everyone plays guitar there, a little kid on the corner can play better than he can .
.......was me....some years ago

 

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  posted on 1/21/2005 at 08:59 PM
i didnt mean it to be racist... i was just trying to point out the fact that they are not that much different.
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quote:get a gibson pancakes



What on Earth does that mean?




my last name means "pancake" in german.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2005 at 08:45 AM
And theres always the movie "A Day Withough a Mexican" and that shows you right there how much the mexicans help our economy. Thousands, maybe millions of jobs would no be completed if no mexican in the US was employed. Thanks guys

 

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  posted on 1/22/2005 at 10:17 PM
i'm not anti-mexican an any way...it was just a joke.

 

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  posted on 1/23/2005 at 05:05 AM
I have a mexican strat and its really good. My dad who has been playing guitar for 35 years and has owned hundreds of guitars has one electric guitar, a sunburst mexi-strat with a roland synthesizer pick-up he put in himself, and he said that the mexican strats are just as good as an american one, and he would know from all the guitars he's had. I think it's like Gibson and Epiphone. You can get the same Epiphone '56 Reissue goldtop for 599 or the gibson one for 2199, you just getting the gibson name. Mabey the american made ones have better hard ware or something but it's really just "oh this is made in America so it's good" kinda thing.
 

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  posted on 1/23/2005 at 10:53 AM
Stratmaster a bigot? No! Nor am I. The question was which is better American made strat or a Mexican? Many have stated that there is no difference in playability between the two. In actuality, all reissue Fenders whether the Paisley Tele's or 57strat reissues are made in Japan (possibly Korea but not Mexico!) So it is the very budget brand Fenders made in Mexico. Whether or not you believe there is no inherent difference between a brand's introductory models and their top-o-the-line ones is your perogative. I do. I try to buy American when at all possible. And the one area where there should be no dispute is when it comes to resale. A $100.00 Mexi strat will never (I repeat never!) be worth more than that! Just about any vintage Fender guitar made in America in good condition will be always be worth more than what you actually paid for it new! Duh!?!?! What's the friggin' problemo?

 

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  posted on 1/23/2005 at 03:25 PM
amen!!!!

 

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