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  posted on 7/25/2020 at 06:25 AM
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I think it would help if the forum didn’t log you out so often.

I heartily agree!!!....If I had an option to 'Stay Logged in' I could more readily bounce around and perhaps find some exchanges that were not so narrowly circumscribed (music and otherwise!)


Hey DOVETAIL, haven't seen you in a long time.

I can log on in the early morning and stay on all day, as long as I'm posting. Go dormant for about a half hour, logged out.

"go dormant for about a half hour, logged out." That's the point-wish that would change!---how might we make it so?

 

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  posted on 7/25/2020 at 06:43 AM
It’s no big deal, it only takes a second to log in

 

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  posted on 7/25/2020 at 10:28 AM
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Tell ya what, Stephen, you waste your time YOUR way and I won't waste my time MY way!?!

 

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  posted on 7/25/2020 at 07:33 PM
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Trump is a barking dog for the 1.5:1 odds. Maybe will change. On the Hillary bet I offered before, for new takers, I'll make that 10:1.


You are offering market price. Which is fine and what I would do too. But if you really want action and you really have 'crickets' then you have to move the price. Odds are like a price with buyers and sellers. I don't have a ton of interest in backing Trump but if I can double my money on an incumbent vs a weak candidate - that I would take. Yes I know Trump is weak too. I definitely understand why you wouldn't want to over extend yourself...but we all know Trump is losing right? If that is the case why not offer 5:1 or hell 10:1? How confident are you a nation like him loses? Make it 2:1 with me and you have a bet. I'm good for it. Guarantee that.

 

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  posted on 7/25/2020 at 07:40 PM
I'm on my phone and fail to proof read. So nation should be buffoon.

We can work details out in PM. I think the bet would be determined upon inauguration. We'd send each other a money order or cashiers check made out to the charity and the you or I would forward that to the organization.

 

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  posted on 7/26/2020 at 08:23 AM
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People aren't scared of sharing their views, they're scared of owning them


In sharing your views are you not in fact "Owning" them?...And who gets to make that distinction? I'll tell you who, the person sharing them "owns" them the minute he or she opens their mouth or puts them on paper and backs them up the instant he or she votes. Now since you are not privy to the way said person casts their ballot, I would say the above quote is well, meaningless.

 

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  posted on 7/26/2020 at 09:32 AM
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Trump is a barking dog for the 1.5:1 odds. Maybe will change. On the Hillary bet I offered before, for new takers, I'll make that 10:1.


You are offering market price. Which is fine and what I would do too. But if you really want action and you really have 'crickets' then you have to move the price. Odds are like a price with buyers and sellers. I don't have a ton of interest in backing Trump but if I can double my money on an incumbent vs a weak candidate - that I would take. Yes I know Trump is weak too. I definitely understand why you wouldn't want to over extend yourself...but we all know Trump is losing right? If that is the case why not offer 5:1 or hell 10:1? How confident are you a nation like him loses? Make it 2:1 with me and you have a bet. I'm good for it. Guarantee that.


OK, we can barter. I'll meet you in the middle - fair? Final offer 1.75:1.

I have no doubt you're good for it. You seem like a standup person, and I can assure you that if I lose, I will pay up & quickly.

You ask why not 5:1 or 10:1. Answer - if some freak situation happens between now and the election, and if Trump wins (God help this country), then I protect my downside and also give you more than the going market odds from first paragraph.

 

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  posted on 7/26/2020 at 09:49 AM
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if some freak situation happens between now and the election, and if Trump wins


Are you referencing the Democratic party allowing Joe Biden to take the debate stage and put his declining mental agility on the world stage?

 

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Trump is a barking dog for the 1.5:1 odds. Maybe will change. On the Hillary bet I offered before, for new takers, I'll make that 10:1.


You are offering market price. Which is fine and what I would do too. But if you really want action and you really have 'crickets' then you have to move the price. Odds are like a price with buyers and sellers. I don't have a ton of interest in backing Trump but if I can double my money on an incumbent vs a weak candidate - that I would take. Yes I know Trump is weak too. I definitely understand why you wouldn't want to over extend yourself...but we all know Trump is losing right? If that is the case why not offer 5:1 or hell 10:1? How confident are you a nation like him loses? Make it 2:1 with me and you have a bet. I'm good for it. Guarantee that.


OK, we can barter. I'll meet you in the middle - fair? Final offer 1.75:1.

I have no doubt you're good for it. You seem like a standup person, and I can assure you that if I lose, I will pay up & quickly.

You ask why not 5:1 or 10:1. Answer - if some freak situation happens between now and the election, and if Trump wins (God help this country), then I protect my downside and also give you more than the going market odds from first paragraph.


OK deal.....

I'm thinking of Will Farrell in Anchorman when he jumped over the bear fence at the zoo.

Let's PM each other.

Just to be clear, Biden is inaugurated - you win. Trump is inaugurated - I win. If Trump loses and somebody else is inaugurated no bet - right?

I'm just taking the other side of the bet, I really doubt he will win and I will not be casting a vote for him. I do enjoy wagers in general and like engaging with members here like this so I am happy to do it.

 

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  posted on 7/26/2020 at 03:41 PM
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Trump is a barking dog for the 1.5:1 odds. Maybe will change. On the Hillary bet I offered before, for new takers, I'll make that 10:1.


You are offering market price. Which is fine and what I would do too. But if you really want action and you really have 'crickets' then you have to move the price. Odds are like a price with buyers and sellers. I don't have a ton of interest in backing Trump but if I can double my money on an incumbent vs a weak candidate - that I would take. Yes I know Trump is weak too. I definitely understand why you wouldn't want to over extend yourself...but we all know Trump is losing right? If that is the case why not offer 5:1 or hell 10:1? How confident are you a nation like him loses? Make it 2:1 with me and you have a bet. I'm good for it. Guarantee that.


OK, we can barter. I'll meet you in the middle - fair? Final offer 1.75:1.

I have no doubt you're good for it. You seem like a standup person, and I can assure you that if I lose, I will pay up & quickly.

You ask why not 5:1 or 10:1. Answer - if some freak situation happens between now and the election, and if Trump wins (God help this country), then I protect my downside and also give you more than the going market odds from first paragraph.


OK deal.....

I'm thinking of Will Farrell in Anchorman when he jumped over the bear fence at the zoo.

Let's PM each other.

Just to be clear, Biden is inaugurated - you win. Trump is inaugurated - I win. If Trump loses and somebody else is inaugurated no bet - right?

I'm just taking the other side of the bet, I really doubt he will win and I will not be casting a vote for him. I do enjoy wagers in general and like engaging with members here like this so I am happy to do it.


Ok. That's fine. I really was thinking that winning was election results and not the January inauguration event, but I'm more than happy to go that route.


 

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  posted on 7/26/2020 at 03:47 PM
I anticipate a lot of noise and perhaps contesting of the results...so I said inauguration just to make sure it is official when we do the donation.
 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 07:33 AM
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In sharing your views are you not in fact "Owning" them?...And who gets to make that distinction? I'll tell you who, the person sharing them "owns" them the minute he or she opens their mouth or puts them on paper and backs them up the instant he or she votes. Now since you are not privy to the way said person casts their ballot, I would say the above quote is well, meaningless.


You certainly traveled a long way to miss that point. You might want to get reimbursed for mileage.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 07:56 AM
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People aren't scared of sharing their views, they're scared of owning them

In sharing your views are you not in fact "Owning" them?...And who gets to make that distinction? I'll tell you who, the person sharing them "owns" them the minute he or she opens their mouth or puts them on paper and backs them up the instant he or she votes. Now since you are not privy to the way said person casts their ballot, I would say the above quote is well, meaningless.

You certainly traveled a long way to miss that point. You might want to get reimbursed for mileage.

Yeah, that's the exact opposite of "owning" views.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 09:01 AM
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People aren't scared of sharing their views, they're scared of owning them

In sharing your views are you not in fact "Owning" them?...And who gets to make that distinction? I'll tell you who, the person sharing them "owns" them the minute he or she opens their mouth or puts them on paper and backs them up the instant he or she votes. Now since you are not privy to the way said person casts their ballot, I would say the above quote is well, meaningless.

You certainly traveled a long way to miss that point. You might want to get reimbursed for mileage.

Yeah, that's the exact opposite of "owning" views.


Yeah. I can not even begin to express the sorrow I currently feel and my inability see things the way you do on a regular basis....

I will be owning my views at the ballot box.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 09:59 AM
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Yeah. I can not even begin to express the sorrow I currently feel and my inability see things the way you do on a regular basis....

I will be owning my views at the ballot box.

Jolly for you. Just saying, Bhakw's specific point was being able to defend your views, you don't get to re-define what he obviously meant. Voting is great, everyone should do it, but stating what you believe is not the same as defending why.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 10:11 AM
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Yeah. I can not even begin to express the sorrow I currently feel and my inability see things the way you do on a regular basis....

I will be owning my views at the ballot box.

Jolly for you. Just saying, Bhakw's specific point was being able to defend your views, you don't get to re-define what he obviously meant. Voting is great, everyone should do it, but stating what you believe is not the same as defending why.


Defend my views to whom?...Why?....I owe NO ONE an explanation for anything, particularly in this liberal bastion.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 10:14 AM
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Yeah. I can not even begin to express the sorrow I currently feel and my inability see things the way you do on a regular basis....

I will be owning my views at the ballot box.

Jolly for you. Just saying, Bhakw's specific point was being able to defend your views, you don't get to re-define what he obviously meant. Voting is great, everyone should do it, but stating what you believe is not the same as defending why.


Defend my views to whom?...Why?....I owe NO ONE an explanation for anything, particularly in this liberal bastion.

No one said you owe it - also not the point - but why show up here and discuss your views every day?

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 10:34 AM
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Some here are actually encouraging the destruction and looting of private property by not condemning those acts.


While I do not agree that keeping silent concerning any issue is showing support, I will throw this out there, it's OK for the left to use this same tactic when asking why people do not speak out against the President when criticizing Joe Biden. See, in the world of the Liberal, there are only two ways to view things, their way or the wrong way and to speak out against this philosophy demands an explanation.

There is no such thing as a simple disagreement. Any further dispute warrants a label.

 

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Yeah. I can not even begin to express the sorrow I currently feel and my inability see things the way you do on a regular basis....

I will be owning my views at the ballot box.

Jolly for you. Just saying, Bhakw's specific point was being able to defend your views, you don't get to re-define what he obviously meant. Voting is great, everyone should do it, but stating what you believe is not the same as defending why.


Defend my views to whom?...Why?....I owe NO ONE an explanation for anything, particularly in this liberal bastion.

No one said you owe it - also not the point - but why show up here and discuss your views every day?


I am this forum to state my views, how you handle that or respond is solely on you.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 10:42 AM
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People aren't scared of sharing their views, they're scared of owning them

In sharing your views are you not in fact "Owning" them?...And who gets to make that distinction? I'll tell you who, the person sharing them "owns" them the minute he or she opens their mouth or puts them on paper and backs them up the instant he or she votes. Now since you are not privy to the way said person casts their ballot, I would say the above quote is well, meaningless.

You certainly traveled a long way to miss that point. You might want to get reimbursed for mileage.

Yeah, that's the exact opposite of "owning" views.


Yeah. I can not even begin to express the sorrow I currently feel and my inability see things the way you do on a regular basis....

I will be owning my views at the ballot box.


My comment was in response to this, and this alone.

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Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share


I think there's a deeper point to be made and an independent discussion to be had on that. Oh well.

I don't care what your opinions are as far as you agreeing or not agreeing with me or anyone else, who you vote for, whatever. Get on with your bad self.

You go on and on about not being able to discuss things and getting chased and insulted by people, then people try and have a decent conversation and you tell us all you don't care what we think anyway and our own thoughts and opinions are meaningless.

So weird.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 10:58 AM
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I am this forum to state my views, how you handle that or respond is solely on you.

Yeah, that's great, but then don't get all butt hurt when people disagree with you. This is a political discussion, this isn't the voting booth. Bhawk's whole point was be prepared to defend your view, i.e., "own" them. You're just stomping your feet and kicking dirt.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 12:03 PM
I just read that Cato Institute article. The very last sentence pretty much sums things up nice 'n' tidy.

Speaking of registered users, got a few on now. People ducking out of the heat I guess.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 12:54 PM
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LOL, sure seems that way sometimes !


Ya, I don't think that was a typo.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 12:55 PM
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Some here are actually encouraging the destruction and looting of private property by not condemning those acts.


While I do not agree that keeping silent concerning any issue is showing support, I will throw this out there, it's OK for the left to use this same tactic when asking why people do not speak out against the President when criticizing Joe Biden. See, in the world of the Liberal, there are only two ways to view things, their way or the wrong way and to speak out against this philosophy demands an explanation.

There is no such thing as a simple disagreement. Any further dispute warrants a label.


"Why doesn't he/she repudiate it, then?" is a common bipartisan tactic used by everyone in politics going back for decades. "WHY WON'T OBAMA REPUDIATE BILL AYERS?" comes to mind.

I know the leftist-as-boogeyman narrative is one you are dedicated to, but that dog don't hunt in this case.

I could have dismissed your post as meaningless, but even with me being a hated leftist and all, I might just respect you more than you respect me. Who knows.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 01:11 PM
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LOL, sure seems that way sometimes !


Yep.

And the rest of liberals...proudly

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