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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 06:28 PM
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funny how Oregon pretends to be so progressive and tolerant but really very provincial compared to cultural hotspots down south.


Why aren't the Oregon militias fighting back against the secret Federal police infiltrating Portland? Isn't this exactly what they trained for?

 

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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 07:29 PM
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funny how Oregon pretends to be so progressive and tolerant but really very provincial compared to cultural hotspots down south.


Why aren't the Oregon militias fighting back against the secret Federal police infiltrating Portland? Isn't this exactly what they trained for?


Conspiracy theory?

 

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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 08:14 PM
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funny how Oregon pretends to be so progressive and tolerant but really very provincial compared to cultural hotspots down south.


Why aren't the Oregon militias fighting back against the secret Federal police infiltrating Portland? Isn't this exactly what they trained for?


Conspiracy theory?


For the militias, maybe.

A few years ago, OR militias raided a public wildlife building.

https://www.newsweek.com/oregon-militia-members-fear-federal-raid-coming-41 2186

This past week, unidentified federal agents have been arresting people on the streets of Portland

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/07/18/outcry-in-oregon-stat e-sues-homeland-security-as-national-local-officials-tell-troops-to-get-out /#76d6c92d1eae

Just saying, this is exactly the kind of government overstep these militias are against. Well, until they arenít


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  posted on 7/19/2020 at 08:18 AM
With today's technology you can follow a group of 200 people doing "whatever" two weeks ago in real time up to the moment a few got arrested. What they did in that time frame? I don't know, you don't know, the news don't know, but the person "randomly" getting pulled off the street knows.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2020 at 08:30 AM
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Different opinions are great, but bigotry is not an opinion.


Lord, here we go. "Bigotry" as defined by who?.....Just another label for thoughts expressed that differ with yours.

Give it a rest.

 

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Different opinions are great, but bigotry is not an opinion.

Lord, here we go. "Bigotry" as defined by who?.....Just another label for thoughts expressed that differ with yours.

Give it a rest.

The dude said countries without black people are the happier. That's an attempt to twist data to support his own prejudice. It's a textbook case, but feel free to die on that hill if you prefer.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2020 at 10:52 AM
porkchopbob posted 10:23am 7/19/2020

The dude said countries without black people are the happier. That's an attempt to twist data to support his own prejudice. It's a textbook case, but feel free to die on that hill if you prefer.


No, the dude didn't. He quoted an article and provided a link to it.
He also gave you the list of those following Finland.
He had nothing in the post about absence of blacks.

This is the second time you've posted things that didn't happen in his posts.

In two separate threads folks have claimed he wanted to gun down hippies in one, and blacks in another.
adhill was one of the others.

Sorry, but the line was in the middle of a large post. It said: "If, or when, it happens, will those who were anti-gun come to me to protect them?" I am the one who posted that. No mention of blacks, no mention of hippies.






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No, the dude didn't. He quoted an article and provided a link to it.
He also gave you the list of those following Finland.
He had nothing in the post about absence of blacks.

This is the second time you've posted things that didn't happen in his posts.

Jerry, maybe you missed it because he deleted it (and the threads have since been deleted), but it was pretty clear what his intent was. He's gone, I'm not going to waste any more time on it.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2020 at 12:02 PM
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No, the dude didn't. He quoted an article and provided a link to it.
He also gave you the list of those following Finland.
He had nothing in the post about absence of blacks.

This is the second time you've posted things that didn't happen in his posts.

Jerry, maybe you missed it because he deleted it (and the threads have since been deleted), but it was pretty clear what his intent was. He's gone, I'm not going to waste any more time on it.


That's fine. how about wasting a little bit of time and delete those posts? I'll delete these and call it even, OK.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 08:50 AM
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It's 10:06 pm Eastern Daylight time and only 3 registered users are online. Where are all the rest?


Think it's a natural slowdown due to summer & people are taking some kind of break. Also, there are no sports, concerts, events, etc. going on to discuss. Unless there's a Covid19 breakthrough not much to discuss there so we're kind of out of topics. I do like hearing reports of what's going on in other regions from members who live there. It'll pick back up.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 10:44 AM
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It's 10:06 pm Eastern Daylight time and only 3 registered users are online. Where are all the rest?


Think it's a natural slowdown due to summer & people are taking some kind of break. Also, there are no sports, concerts, events, etc. going on to discuss. Unless there's a Covid19 breakthrough not much to discuss there so we're kind of out of topics. I do like hearing reports of what's going on in other regions from members who live there. It'll pick back up.


Here's my reason:

This is a private message from :"4umad2" who has not identified himself, but is a Volunteer moderator.

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Terms of Service, Please review the terms of service for the Forum. "Simply inserting some type of punctuation mark into a curse word doesn't change the intent of or understanding of the word".


So, I guess typing in a "curse" word with an asterisk included in the phrase so that out of courtesy the whole word in question does not appear is a "no-no"...But calling people names is acceptable.

I then received this from Roland in response to my inquiry as to what was going on here:

"You are on the radar of the moderators as someone who does try to stay within the letter of the ToS but a lot of your posts seem to drive people into the red zone."

"The red zone"

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 11:56 AM
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Here's my reason:

The moderators are being cautious after the headache of BoytonBrother. I got a message from a moderator about posting my topics in the correct forum. I don't start that many topics so I guess something that should've been WP was in AG during the BoytonBrother drama. I didn't read it until a month after it was sent (I don't know how you know if you have a pm. I never get them. Of course, I didn't know there was a Red Zone, either.)

You're probably a casualty of that since BB always headed straight for you to provoke. He told me to FOff spelled out correctly & when I quoted it for response, it automatically became all asterisks. I thought it was some sort of auto anti-curse word thing.

This is exactly why I was so annoyed & unwilling to "let it go" w/BB. He gets banned, but we're now closely monitored. Same w/Cagey who was unhinged IMO. Glad they're monitoring for trolls, but it does put a damper on discussion.








 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 01:27 PM
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It's 10:06 pm Eastern Daylight time and only 3 registered users are online. Where are all the rest?


Think it's a natural slowdown due to summer & people are taking some kind of break. Also, there are no sports, concerts, events, etc. going on to discuss. Unless there's a Covid19 breakthrough not much to discuss there so we're kind of out of topics. I do like hearing reports of what's going on in other regions from members who live there. It'll pick back up.


Used to be that at 10pm we would have folks from all the time zones checking in.
Those in Europe would have checked in from 1am to 7am.

With the lockdown you would think we would have higher traffic since this is a place to connect and share things.

Instead we have just been getting more threads that are basically "trash trump" venues.

We have had new members sign up, but like I posted earlier no new members have made more than 10 posts
since those who registered in December 2018. Majority of those new ones have 0 or 1 posts.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 01:51 PM
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Instead we have just been getting more threads that are basically "trash trump" venues.




Anyone who thinks he deserves differently or is leading properly is free to state so. I don't think anyone has prevented that.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 01:56 PM
^^^
we are having an apolitical discussion (on the WP?? - shocking), but I guess the number of "trash Trump" threads is likely a reflection of current events and will vary in the same direction as approval / disapproval ratings.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 02:03 PM
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Instead we have just been getting more threads that are basically "trash trump" venues.


Hundreds upon hundreds of trash Obama threads over eight years didn't negatively affect traffic...

You keep skirting around this whole "it's the fault of the local liberals" thing, but it's not going to land. That would only be the case were liberals the only ones trashing, bashing or insulting. Far from the case.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 02:44 PM
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Instead we have just been getting more threads that are basically "trash trump" venues.


Hundreds upon hundreds of trash Obama threads over eight years didn't negatively affect traffic...

You keep skirting around this whole "it's the fault of the local liberals" thing, but it's not going to land. That would only be the case were liberals the only ones trashing, bashing or insulting. Far from the case.


The three posts above this one is probably one reason we don't have many posting the WP anymore.

There weren't hundreds and hundreds of trash Obama threads. Maybe a few hundred, but not in the context I believe you are thinking of.

I haven't been skirting around anything. If I feel that "liberals" are the fault of anything, I'll be glad to share my opinion.

There's no opinion in my post about the "trash trump" threads. Some are pretty accurate, some are just dumb venting, from both parties and independents.
Just compare the thread count trash trump vs not trash trump. Let me know if you come up with a different figure than I did. Simple arithmetic.

You're about to get into my "red zone" insinuating things that isn't true.

Begin edit: Sorry Brer, you posted before I did, so it should be "The three posts above the BrerRabbit post".



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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 02:59 PM
I respectfully disagree

From my perspective, it's the tone more than the content

I'm no fan of Trump, but I would shake my head just as much if someone was flaming a Trump supporter as I would the other way around.

We can disagree politely or we can be jerks (I would use stronger language, but...)

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 04:07 PM
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Hundreds upon hundreds of trash Obama threads over eight years didn't negatively affect traffic...

You keep skirting around this whole "it's the fault of the local liberals" thing, but it's not going to land. That would only be the case were liberals the only ones trashing, bashing or insulting. Far from the case.


One thing we should all be able to agree on is that Trump is an outrageous guy. He's not liberal, conservative, a Democrat, Republican, or Independent (although he's been registered as all 3 at some point in his life). He's one-of-a kind & a man who invites head-shaking & "can you believe this?"

For example, he moved Clinton's & W's portraits out of his line of sight into a rarely used dining room where extra linens are stored because he can. He's not allowing Obama's portrait to be hung. Every single other president has had the good grace or at least respect for tradition to let the portraits of his predecessors hang where they've hung for decades. It's a petty thing & mildly amusing (if you're 9 years old). He can't get rid of Covid19 but he can certainly rid himself of portraits of other presidents.

That's the kind of apolitical thing Trump does that invites comment. The most powerful man in the world can't get what he wants so he resorts to moving toys around the house.

I really wish we'd stop w/the generalizations of what "Liberals" v. "Conservatives" think. We, believe it or not, can think several things at once. I'd like to get thru one week of not using those terms.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 04:52 PM
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For example, he moved Clinton's & W's portraits out of his line of sight into a rarely used dining room where extra linens are stored because he can. He's not allowing Obama's portrait to be hung. Every single other president has had the good grace or at least respect for tradition to let the portraits of his predecessors hang where they've hung for decades. It's a petty thing & mildly amusing (if you're 9 years old). He can't get rid of Covid19 but he can certainly rid himself of portraits of other presidents.

That's the kind of apolitical thing Trump does that invites comment. The most powerful man in the world can't get what he wants so he resorts to moving toys around the house.




I've used the term dispicable person to describe Trump becasue he has no humility and has no compassion for almost anyone. He even mocks the disabled. What kind of person does that?

I've seen the reports on the paintings (Obama a while back & Bush + Clinton this past weekend). To me these are not dispicable moves. They are more childish & immature - something you'd expect out of a middle school student. Here we are in a pandemic with people losing their lives, hospitals filling up, & numbers rising, and what is Trump doing - Playing "I'll show them by denying Obama's painting and moving Bush + Clinton". What a small man Trump is.

He earns his criticism fairly.

 

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I've seen the reports on the paintings (Obama a while back & Bush + Clinton this past weekend). To me these are not dispicable moves. They are more childish & immature - something you'd expect out of a middle school student. Here we are in a pandemic with people losing their lives, hospitals filling up, & numbers rising, and what is Trump doing - Playing "I'll show them by denying Obama's painting and moving Bush + Clinton". What a small man Trump is. He earns his criticism fairly.

Exactly, it's not despicable or political. It's just childish. All because he can't beat a virus. That's not Trump's fault; no one but the people in lab coats can.

Same w/the interview w/Chris Wallace re the cognition test. He kept telling Wallace that Wallace wouldn't be able to complete it. The "very hard" questions at the end (what is the date, what city/state are you in). Who cares? Why does the POTUS have to challenge the reporter's ability to take some test? Why does it have to be the hardest, most mind-boggling test ever to have been invented? Again, not political, just childish.

Just saw that he's resuming Covid19 Task Force broadcasts tomorrow because of the high TV ratings. It doesn't matter that the #s are twice as high as they were back at their previous peak, it's an opportunity for him to get in front of an audience to strut his stuff.


 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 06:07 PM
Well, to get BACK on topic, right now I'm the only one om line. 7PM eastern.
Everybody must be either chilling in a shower in the SE, grabbing a cheese steak sandwich in Philly, chasing down a pizza in NYC, some b-b-q n" brew in the Carolinas, and some jambalaya in Nawlens.
Right now I'm going for some fried squash, fried green tomatoes, and corn on the cob. All veggie dinner tonight.
Be back later.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 08:39 PM
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Instead we have just been getting more threads that are basically "trash trump" venues.


Hundreds upon hundreds of trash Obama threads over eight years didn't negatively affect traffic...

You keep skirting around this whole "it's the fault of the local liberals" thing, but it's not going to land. That would only be the case were liberals the only ones trashing, bashing or insulting. Far from the case.


The three posts above this one is probably one reason we don't have many posting the WP anymore.

There weren't hundreds and hundreds of trash Obama threads. Maybe a few hundred, but not in the context I believe you are thinking of.

I haven't been skirting around anything. If I feel that "liberals" are the fault of anything, I'll be glad to share my opinion.

There's no opinion in my post about the "trash trump" threads. Some are pretty accurate, some are just dumb venting, from both parties and independents.
Just compare the thread count trash trump vs not trash trump. Let me know if you come up with a different figure than I did. Simple arithmetic.

You're about to get into my "red zone" insinuating things that isn't true.

Begin edit: Sorry Brer, you posted before I did, so it should be "The three posts above the BrerRabbit post".



Hey, I'm just, like, reading stuff and responding to it, ya know.

In your OP, the political bias is obvious...

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As we get closer to the election I see an uptic in the animosity shown to those who others think are Trump supporters.
Some have gone back to calling anyone who have some critical thoughts, and information, on the BLM movement and others calling for destruction of history iconography racists,
Some here are actually encouraging the destruction and looting of private property by not condemning those acts.
Some here are calling for action against imagined wrongs (the Bubba Wallace "noose" incident comes to mind).
Some here have tried to repress others from saying what they think and believe.


- Animosity towards anyone in political conversations is a given
- Some people are indeed racist, some are not. Statues aren't history, they're statues
- If you judge anyone by the things they don't do or say, you'll always be disappointed
- Definitely looked like a noose to me
- How do you repress anyone on an internet message board if you aren't a moderator?

The Hall of Fame Trolls gained their status by all of us that responded to them and fed them over the years. Once you really start focusing on ignoring them, it gets easier and easier over time. Just scroll on by.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 08:42 PM
8:39pm Central out here on the Plains. Muggy as hell outside.
Dinner was sausage and rice with Crystal hot sauce.
Got home from work, had dinner, now back on the VPN doing more work.
Listening to 2nd Set and wondering why in the world they stopped playing Sailin' Cross The Devil's Sea during the later years. What a great Gregg song.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2020 at 09:04 PM
10 PM
home alone
the wife is visiting her son on leave from military at her parents cabin on the lake (if you're wondering, he was in Iraq in January and DC in April). Tomorrow she will be seeing her GM for the 1st time since Xmas - limitations on visitors in the senior housing due to Covid. Thankfully no cases there
Ate dinner, made ice cream for when the stepson and GF visit later in the week. Now I'll hit the electric drums for a while (with headphones on, no noise for the neighbors), then crash.

 
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