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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 12:18 PM
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Why would he be gone?


He imploded. He posted that he'd contacted Rowland that someone was hacking into his account & complained about some sort of injustice. Now he's gone.




Which thread, and did someone quote it before it disappeared?

 

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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 12:25 PM
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Which thread, and did someone quote it before it disappeared?


I don't know which thread but it was all caps. I don't think anyone responded. It was pretty clear he was off the rails. I only noticed because of the caps.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 01:33 PM
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Which thread, and did someone quote it before it disappeared?


I don't know which thread but it was all caps. I don't think anyone responded. It was pretty clear he was off the rails. I only noticed because of the caps.


Damn, you go work in the yard for a while, and all this happens.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 02:33 PM
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odd, seemed like a good enough guy

wasn't there a post on collections??

anyway, back on topic, I got the application for vote by mail yesterday
I was initially going to go in person, but now I think I will mail it in, just to piss off Donald.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 07:22 PM
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Which thread, and did someone quote it before it disappeared?


I don't know which thread but it was all caps. I don't think anyone responded. It was pretty clear he was off the rails. I only noticed because of the caps.


I just thought of someone else that used to post in all caps.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 07:25 PM
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odd, seemed like a good enough guy

wasn't there a post on collections??



Called the "What Do You collect" thread. It's gone too.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2020 at 08:51 PM
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odd, seemed like a good enough guy

wasn't there a post on collections??



Called the "What Do You collect" thread. It's gone too.


Yeah the NFL one too - probly just routine maintenance/upkeep/thinning of threads etc - kudos indeed to Rowland & Lana for all they do
Guessing the gridiron will be idle this fall

 

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  posted on 7/23/2020 at 08:40 PM
Kanye West wants to run for President. I'm quietly in his corner for what he's been going thru lately but I don't think he realizes how being a President would change his life and his family's, plus the demands of 24-7 availability to respond to any crisis like nuke threats do not leave much time for much else. Kim couldn't keep doing her show in California and fly back and forth to D.C. all the time. Well I guess she could but she would not have much time with Kanye. But how can you film a t.v. show with secret service agents all over? Things would change.

I think he has interesting ideas, ie. Giving women money so they can have babies rather than being forced by poverty to have abortions. Poor women have to work, cannot afford day care, and often get stuck on welfare to get medical insurance for the child, housing and food. His idea gives women choices and elevates their status and incentive to become Mothers. The Taliban used to give women monthly stipends so they could take care if their children and not be forced to choose between Motherhood and working, particularly when the men were often out at war.

Another idea he has is legalizing pot. I don't agree with that, but agree with decriminalizing it, and if people want to smoke at home, that's their business.

I think Kanye should get some political experience before seeking the Presidency, but it is not crazy to have desires for change.

I don't think Kim's Mom likes him, but Kim loves him and that's what matters.

If he's stressed out he needs benzodiazepines to calm down.

It is interesting though that as soon as he gives his life to God people accuse him of not being of sound mind. Religious persecution.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2020 at 09:33 PM
By the way the person being groomed for the 2024 Democrat slot is Pete Buttigieg. Being groomed by Obama.

 

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I wonder what the grooming process consists of
To groom most efficiently for 2024, I would’ve thought him to be the VP nominee

Gina Raimondo? Similar to Andrew Cuomo, she’s getting great press for her adroit forward-looking handling of Covid

Dr. Anthony Fauci
He’s been an advisor to every president since Reagan, he knows the political ropes, he’s won the Presidential Medal of Freedom ...
In these troubled medical times, he would be the nation’s Medical Czar as VP - a position that must be created w/life & the government as we know it, hanging in the balance - heck he’s so popular, he even has his own baseball card

Still think Nancy Pelosi is being considered, she’s female, well known & hates Trump w/a passion

imo Joe miscalculated by restricting the field of running mates to female only

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 09:53 AM
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I wonder what the grooming process consists of
To groom most efficiently for 2024, I would’ve thought him to be the VP nominee

Gina Raimondo? Similar to Andrew Cuomo, she’s getting great press for her adroit forward-looking handling of Covid

Dr. Anthony Fauci
He’s been an advisor to every president since Reagan, he knows the political ropes, he’s won the Presidential Medal of Freedom ...
In these troubled medical times, he would be the nation’s Medical Czar as VP - a position that must be created w/life & the government as we know it, hanging in the balance - heck he’s so popular, he even has his own baseball card

Still think Nancy Pelosi is being considered, she’s female, well known & hates Trump w/a passion

imo Joe miscalculated by restricting the field of running mates to female only


What makes you think that Pelosi is under consideration? I've seen absolutely nothing to that point. She's also 80 years old. With Joe in upper 70's, do you really believe he'd look at someone older than him to be a VP candidate?

Why do you think "Joe miscalculated by restricting the field of running mates to female only"? I think having a woman as VP makes perfectly good sense. They certainly are as smart or smarter than men and capable of filling this position. Also if Joe is elected, his cabinet, admin, and staff will look like America. This is a good thing. I realize that many cling to primarily white male heritage, but that ship has sailed. Unfortunately some are still on board that cruise ship including the incumbent president.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 10:50 AM
In reply, if Obama is grooming Buttieg for 2024, why isn’t Mr. Obama recommending Buttieg for VP - grooming to me means preparing someone - what better way to that end, than learning on the job - he’d just take orders from Joe, & groom w/Barack Obama

Re Pelosi, stranger things have happened - her age works against her yes, but as you said Joe is up there too.....w/her experience she wouldn’t need the training/‘grooming’ others would

If I were in Joe’s camp I’d be concerned about the only-ladies-need-apply approach - smacks too much of McCain-Palin - sort of a novelty ticket - not saying the active nominees aren’t capable on their own merits, am sure they are -

however, Joe hurts his chances by basing his pick on gender instead of qualifications/credentials - it excludes males who might just as capable or even more-so -

plus he stands to be accused of sexism, or favoritism - after all, look how easy it is to offend people nowadays

Can’t wait to see the media love-in for Joe when he announces his pick

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 10:55 AM
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Why do you think "Joe miscalculated by restricting the field of running mates to female only"? I think having a woman as VP makes perfectly good sense. They certainly are as smart or smarter than men and capable of filling this position. Also if Joe is elected, his cabinet, admin, and staff will look like America. This is a good thing. I realize that many cling to primarily white male heritage, but that ship has sailed. Unfortunately some are still on board that cruise ship including the incumbent president.


First of all, the "most qualified candidate" could very well be a female. Could even be a female of color. But when you restrict your choice based solely on gender and race - you are very much painting out other qualified candidates - based solely on THEIR gender or color.

Now, if Joe had cancer ... or needed some serious heart/ cardio procedure ... what criteria would he use in choosing a doctor or surgeon? Personally, I'd want the absolute best - even if they were a mixed race, asexual being from another planet.

[Edited on 7/27/2020 by Rusty]

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 10:57 AM
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Joe hurts his chances by basing his pick on gender instead of qualifications/credentials - it excludes males who might just as capable or even more-so


You're right, 244 years so far and there's still not a woman good enough to be the VP.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 11:40 AM
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imo Joe miscalculated by restricting the field of running mates to female only

Did he actually do that? If so, agreed.

America in 2020 seems to have reverted to the America of the 1950s as some sort of glorious period when white men knew best. It's as though the protests of the 1960s, civil rights legislation, SCOTUS decisions on Roe & gay marriage never happened for a significant segment of the population because they're still fighting them.

The key to the election is winning - not who can best do the job. If Biden needs a winner, he should be considering ALL democrats & maybe a former GOPer. The voter who will only vote for a woman/race/ethnicity isn't going to vote for Trump. Narrowing his options to someone who won't be acceptable to a voter on the fence seems counter-intuitive.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 07:10 PM
He did commit to picking a woman VP at one of the last debates with no audience between himself and Sanders. One of the moderators backed up to clarify that he had just done so.

Certainly nothing wrong with a woman VP pick or a woman nominee or eventual POTUS herself. I'm not a fan of coming out and committing so far in advance who he may or may not pick no matter what gender or race or background.

He most likely was trying to score some points with certain voters. Or maybe he just honestly feels a woman needs to be in the WH. It's politics, so I'll probably go with the former, but the latter could be true as well.

The Democrat base and party would not stand for a Republican (or former Republican) or even moderate/independent type VP pick. You have all those positions on wedge issues that get people to divide voters up so they can know which side they are on...put two people together on the same ticket from different political affliations in 2020? I absolutely love the idea...but I'm also not a member of the Republican or Democrat parties...those people definitely would not love the idea.


 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 07:41 PM
First debate scheduled right here in Ohio:

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Cleveland to host first Presidential Debate for 2020
The first debate of the 2020 Presidential campaign will take place on September 29 at the Case Western Reserve University's Sheila and Eric Samson Pavilion in Cleveland.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 09:00 PM
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He did commit to picking a woman VP at one of the last debates with no audience between himself and Sanders....I'm not a fan of coming out and committing so far in advance who he may or may not pick no matter what gender or race or background.

Not a fan, either. As I've said many times, the process is way too long. Yes, politicians always are looking 4 years out, but playing it out publicly for 2 of those years is tiresome. This year, especially, nothing is certain so I think committing to anything 6-7 months out is folly. It's insulting to essentially say "I need to appease some voters, so I'm going to pick a token ________ as my running mate."

 

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  posted on 7/27/2020 at 09:03 PM
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The first debate of the 2020 Presidential campaign will take place on September 29


Maybe.

 

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  posted on 7/28/2020 at 03:55 AM
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First debate scheduled right here in Ohio:

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The first debate of the 2020 Presidential campaign will take place on September 29 at the Case Western Reserve University's Sheila and Eric Samson Pavilion in Cleveland.



Why they would do this.....
2 elderly masked men, trying to outwit each other - spare me
Yes hopefully Covid 19 turns this from a maybe to a no go - true they’re 6 feet apart as they take the stage, but still.....

Hopefully an empathetic moderator will ask easy viewer-friendly questions they have prepared answers to
I can see it now - the TV will show them sanitizing their hands & donning their masks b4 shaking hands at the beginning of the debate
At least masks would cover up that garish makeup they put on -
it’s all parody material

 

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  posted on 7/28/2020 at 06:23 AM
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Why they would do this.....
2 elderly masked men, trying to outwit each other - spare me
Yes hopefully Covid 19 turns this from a maybe to a no go - true they’re 6 feet apart as they take the stage, but still.....

Two months away - about what 2 years was in the pre-Covid life in terms of scheduling.

As for the debates themselves, they're useless no matter who is running. There are NO questions to ask either candidate. Even if there were, both are skilled in giving non-answers. Debates were important tools in educating voters in the pre-24/7 new media cycle; they're relics that should be retired 2 decades into the 21st century. Let the acceptance speeches in which each candidate outlines an actual platform be the major form of getting any serious position statement out.

 

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  posted on 7/28/2020 at 06:58 AM
Debates aren't going away. The news programs and channels need inventory (shows) in which they can sell advertising and get ratings for selling future advertising. Plus I'm sure the media thinks they are doing a public service. And it isn't like I'm innocent in all of this, news has become as much entertainment as anything else, I plead guilty to going along with it.
 

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  posted on 7/28/2020 at 07:51 AM
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... As for the debates themselves, they're useless no matter who is running. There are NO questions to ask either candidate. ...



I most politefully and respectfully beg to disagree.

Okay, we KNOW what measures to the various problems facing America that Trump has taken. We can SEE this train wreck in action.
I would very much like to hear (and see) Biden's responses when asked what HE would do to alleviate the seemingly riotous rebellions that are happening in places like Portland. I'm not picking on Joe - I just want to see and hear him respond LIVE and in real time to such questioning. Everything I've seen on him has been noticeably pre-produced and edited.

I've also said this before: if there are debates, I'm hoping and praying that Megyn Kelly gets to be on at least one of the panels.

 

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  posted on 7/28/2020 at 08:54 AM
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I would very much like to hear (and see) Biden's responses when asked what HE would do to alleviate the seemingly riotous rebellions that are happening in places like Portland. I'm not picking on Joe - I just want to see and hear him respond LIVE and in real time to such questioning. Everything I've seen on him has been noticeably pre-produced and edited.

Like the responses to debates aren't scripted, rehearsed, memorized???? Do you not remember the concern that Reagan wouldn't be able to remember his lines in his 2nd term debates? He was at least good humored about his gaffes. The lengthy rehearsals for Dole w/stand-ins for the charismatic articulate Clinton? Do you think Biden's going to say something different from his previous statements?

You just made the case for no debate - we know what Trump thinks. A town hall for Biden would work.

 

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  posted on 7/28/2020 at 09:20 AM
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Portland and Seattle are the only cities with enough spine to fight back.



[Edited on 7/28/2020 by BrerRabbit]


I support dissent. I support Black Lives Matter. I support Colin Kaepernick. But I would like to hear some "end game strategy" from all those involved. Do these protests end the moment that Donald Trump is no longer president?

 

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