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Author: Subject: Valid I.D. to vote?..Yes or No?

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republicans and especially trump dont want it to be easy for black, Brown, Poor or Elderly to vote, because they [republicans] would be out of a job.


Is this the only group that can not provide I.D.?

How do they drive?.....Open Bank accounts?....Get their prescriptions filled?

 

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  posted on 6/24/2020 at 09:41 PM
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republicans and especially trump dont want it to be easy for black, Brown, Poor or Elderly to vote, because they [republicans] would be out of a job.


Is this the only group that can not provide I.D.?

How do they drive?.....Open Bank accounts?....Get their prescriptions filled?
Why cant mail in voting be expanded??, why are people having their voting rights trampled in Georgia?.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2020 at 10:18 PM
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republicans and especially trump dont want it to be easy for black, Brown, Poor or Elderly to vote, because they [republicans] would be out of a job.


Is this the only group that can not provide I.D.?

How do they drive?.....Open Bank accounts?....Get their prescriptions filled?
Why cant mail in voting be expanded??, why are people having their voting rights trampled in Georgia?.


I do not know. Why does the left always bring up "black, Brown, Poor & eldery" as the only groups who struggle with the formalities tied to casting a ballot?

[Edited on 6/25/2020 by BIGV]

 

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  posted on 6/24/2020 at 11:54 PM
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republicans and especially trump dont want it to be easy for black, Brown, Poor or Elderly to vote, because they [republicans] would be out of a job.


Is this the only group that can not provide I.D.?

How do they drive?.....Open Bank accounts?....Get their prescriptions filled?
Why cant mail in voting be expanded??, why are people having their voting rights trampled in Georgia?.


I do not know. Why does the left always bring up "black, Brown, Poor & eldery" as the only groups who struggle with the formalities ties to casting a ballot?


Maybe because rich, young people don't have a problem getting a drivers license or passport.

 

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republicans and especially trump dont want it to be easy for black, Brown, Poor or Elderly to vote, because they [republicans] would be out of a job.


Is this the only group that can not provide I.D.?

How do they drive?.....Open Bank accounts?....Get their prescriptions filled?
Why cant mail in voting be expanded??, why are people having their voting rights trampled in Georgia?.


I do not know. Why does the left always bring up "black, Brown, Poor & eldery" as the only groups who struggle with the formalities ties to casting a ballot?


Maybe because rich, young people don't have a problem getting a drivers license or passport.


In California it costs all of $37 to acquire a DL, does that kind of expenditure qualify you as "rich"?

 

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  posted on 6/25/2020 at 08:03 AM
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In California it costs all of $37 to acquire a DL, does that kind of expenditure qualify you as "rich"?

It shouldn't cost anything to vote. $37/person can be a luxury when you're feeding and clothing kids on a budget. If an ID is required at poling stations, any ID and proof of residency should suffice. Otherwise we are solving a problem that barely exists (voter fraud) while creating a larger one (turning voters away).

Driving might seem universal to you in your world, but in many parts of the country it isn't. My grandmother didn't learn to drive until she was in her late 50s, after my grandfather passed. Many elderly refrain from driving at a certain point in life. Meanwhile, I know plenty of people in large metro areas with public transportation who never learned to drive.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2020 at 11:14 AM
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It shouldn't cost anything to vote.


It does not. The same I.D. that costs $37 serves a multitude of purposes including the ability to open a bank account which over a very short time pays for itself and saves all of the money a cash checking convenience store probably charges.

Acquiring a valid I.D. does not require a college degree and if you can not figure out how to make that a priority in life, well that is on you.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2020 at 11:53 AM
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It shouldn't cost anything to vote.

It does not. The same I.D. that costs $37

So it should cost $37 is what you're saying. Plus traffic school costs. If you don't drive, which I mentioned still occurs, there are other identification options.

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If you do not have a California driver license or identification card number, but you enter your other information, the website will create a pre-filled voter registration application for you to print, sign, and mail. All of your information will be sent directly to your county elections office so that when your signed application arrives in the mail, the county elections staff will simply add your signature to your voter registration record.


But in fact, it costs nothing to vote in CA, no ID is typically required, including a DL because you are not proving that you are legally allowed to drive (which is the purpose of a DL) you are proving that you are a resident of that voting district.


 

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  posted on 6/25/2020 at 12:22 PM
This voting hoohaw is nothing but an effort to sabotage the voting process and create more chaos around the 2020 election.
 

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  posted on 6/25/2020 at 12:33 PM
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This voting hoohaw is nothing but an effort to sabotage the voting process and create more chaos around the 2020 election.


Trump has already admiited the more people that vote that it'll not be good for the GOP.

So using that reasoning - make it as difficult as possible to vote - mandate id's, dissuade vote by mail (even though the royal family and much of the Trump Circle does this regularly), and gerrymandering. Sounds like a good formula .

 

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  posted on 6/25/2020 at 05:44 PM
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in the financial industry at least, major banks do indeed consider an electric bill as a legitimate proof of residence.


Boynton Brother returns yet again!

 

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  posted on 6/25/2020 at 06:04 PM
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in the financial industry at least, major banks do indeed consider an electric bill as a legitimate proof of residence.


Boynton Brother returns yet again!


Geez, the guy's a one man pandemic.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 08:31 AM
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are you two sensitive about discussing the financial industry or something?


Sensitive? That is a riot.

Boynton Brother is back for a 4th time!

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 08:57 AM
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are you two sensitive about discussing the financial industry or something?


C'mon man, you know better than that...

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 10:25 AM
Sure as long as the ID is free.
 

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Geez, the guy's a one man pandemic.


More like endemic ó stubbornly resisting efforts to be stamped out.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 11:10 AM
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why do you care what my screen name is? i wanted to change my screen name, and you guys are melting down over it. either i bother Rowland to officially change my screen name, or i create it myself and leave the guy alone. or, if you think it's a good look for you to bother Rowland yet again, freak out over a screen name, when we're all anonymous on here, be my guest. or, man up and just respond to what i say and stop acting like children. IP addresses change every couple days, or when you reset your router - are you going to bother Rowland every time I create the screen name that I want to have? grow up guys, seriousely.
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Frankly, I thought your name was Boynton Brother & didn't learn until recently that it was Boyton Brother so I really don't care what you call yourself.

What's objectionable is that instead of changing your username w/Rowland as per the policy you agreed to when you joined, you pretend to be 4 different users in less than 3 weeks AND LIE when asked if you were ever Boyton Brother or Muleman1994 when it's obvious you're either a fake or a troll. It's hardly a bother to Rowland to change your name & then you could just say "Hey guys, it's me Boyton Brother w/a new username."

Don't make us the bad guys for recognizing you. Act like a normal guy who wants to change his username & abide by the same policies we all do.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 11:45 AM
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Sure as long as the ID is free.

Agreed.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 01:02 PM
Another reason to automatically register individuals via the SS system and use that same number when voting...Itís already been applied for and registered at birth...Make the system more secure for the digital age and use it for voting....It really isnít rocket science. Just improve the security measures that safeguard our SS number....
 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 02:50 PM
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. . . alley winos with sketchy identification who never bother to update their voter credentials.


The homeless advocacy groups who transport folks to the polls help them get current with registration. They don't just cruise the bridges and look behind dumpsters, pile em into vans, hand them all stolen utility bills and say go for it and a twenty $ blll bonus if you vote Democrat.


Three easy questions to answer:
1) If they are homeless, what utility bills do they have? Water, gas, cable, phone, electric?
2) How much if they vote GOP?
3) Why don't they help them get a state ID card?

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 02:55 PM
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How about we simply do automatic voter registration when you turn 18 via the social security system and the voter provides or verifies the number when at the polling site or when voting with an absentee ballot?

Your SS number is after all a form of ID...One the govít and your township and/or polling site already has.....

This automatic registration should NOT include party affiliation initially but may be changed later by the voter....It's one way to simplify voting and weaken the power of political parties.


In most counties in GA, there is a voter registration drive at the start of the school year for those who will be eligible to vote in the next election.
Also, you don't register under any party affiliation.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 03:05 PM
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in the financial industry at least, major banks do indeed consider an electric bill as a legitimate proof of residence.


Boynton Brother returns yet again!


Geez, the guy's a one man pandemic.


I've been gone two days. Are you telling me he got bounced again, then came back again, and got bounced, again?
roland needs to put a lock on that IP address.

Of course if he sends me the 12 AR-15s he owes me, I might back his return for a bout two days.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 03:36 PM
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Boynton Brother returns yet again!
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Geez, the guy's a one man pandemic.


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I've been gone two days. Are you telling me he got bounced again, then came back again, and got bounced, again?
roland needs to put a lock on that IP address.

Came back w/a 4th username but this time when discovered after 3 posts, he admitted it. Says he's Boyton Brother who doesn't want to "bother" Rowland w/changing his username. He seems desperate to get back on this forum.

 

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Boynton Brother returns yet again!
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Geez, the guy's a one man pandemic.


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I've been gone two days. Are you telling me he got bounced again, then came back again, and got bounced, again?
roland needs to put a lock on that IP address.

Came back w/a 4th username but this time when discovered after 3 posts, he admitted it. Says he's Boyton Brother who doesn't want to "bother" Rowland w/changing his username. He seems desperate to get back on this forum.


I guess he needs that psychological testing that he touts as a panacea for bad cops, and for firearms ownership. Which, as we've seen lately, doesn't seem to be so reliable.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2020 at 05:50 PM
Photo ID required, but if you donít have one, provisional ballot until SSN and birth certificate are verified.

This issue never dies around here. Where are the documented cases of voter fraud that mandate such a concern of voter identity? Not the one-off, the huge numbers, or even enough thatís been proven to swing an election.

And, if everyone is THAT concerned with the integrity of elections, gotta look past the ID part and look at everything surrounding it. Everything.

 

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