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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 11:16 AM
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The world didn't change because everyone has a phone. The world has changed because everyone has a camera.

Yeah, everyone wants to document what is happening, and viewers see a 10 second clip that only tells a 10 second story.

But when you think about it, we wouldn't be here if people hadn't documented Floyd and Arbery with cameras.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 11:18 AM
Lung Doctor Analyzes George Floyd Autopsy Report - [Medical Explanation]

Dr. Mike Hansen

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oEp63dulc


Https://www.twitter.com/Mike_Hansen_MD

Try his twitter feed before the powers that be eff with that.

What did come out is that George was dead 2:56 seconds into being kneed.

He has a website George Floyd's lawyer should ask him for his video that I cited above.

Https://drmikehansen.com











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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 11:29 AM
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IMO, the viewing public has been completely played by the perceived size of "riots and looting" outside of Minneapolis and maybe New York when looking at how many people are involved and how much property is involved when compared to the overall size of the country and our population. People also continue to refuse to look deeper to who is actually doing what. Anarchy is a thing. Black Bloc Anarchy is a thing....independent of party or political ideology. .

Things in south Florida have been pretty quiet and peaceful. There was some looting in Miami and West Palm, but the past week has mostly been peaceful protests conducted at a distance with masks on.

There's a film making technique to imply crowds off camera by framing tightly - the viewer instinctively assumes more beyond the frame the crowd (or what have you) extends. Kind of like Trump's inauguration.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 12:10 PM
Of the other officers charged in the case

J. Alexander Keung was only on his third shift as a police officer. He told the others "you shouldn't do that". Keung held down Floyd's back.
Lawyer Thomas Plunkett.

Thomas Lane on his 4th day as a cop. He is the one who originally handcuffed George Floyd, and he asked Chauvin at least twice "shall we roll him over", Chauvin told him not to. When George was dieing and saw his Mother and cried "Oh Mama" P.O. Lane told Chauvin he was worried about "excitement delerium", Chauvin told him "that's why we have him on his stomach". Lane pressed on the legs.

Both indicated they were following orders of their Commanding Officer, even though they disagreed with him.

Https://yahoo.com/news/2-police-officers-charged-over-095237755.html

Https://yahoo.com/news/ex-minneapolis-cop-told-other-20454788.html



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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 01:09 PM
Brutal Force Unnecessary

For resistant prisoners, use the pepper spray. Handcuff them with zip ties, put them in car take to precinct.

For kicking suspects use the above and add those prison cuffs to the ankles that allow them to walk.

For jacked up crack methheads- put a pillow case over their heads that has an opening for their head so they can see.

How difficult is this? There is no reason for knees on necks or chokeholds. If they feel these are not enough someone could develop prisoner harnesses, though that should not be necessary.






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After a civil rights lawsuit was filed this week, Minneapolis NOW ban police chokeholds and neck restraints.

Https://www.yahoo.com/news/witness-floyd-didnt-resist-arrest-155340907.html

The City Council expected to approve the measure today. It requires court approval. It requires any officer to radio or phone in from the scene the use of any neck restraint or chokehold to his Commander or the Commander's superiors as well as their duty to verbally and physically intervene in the situation.


REMARKS: This needs to be NATIONAL reform. And apply it to the DEA, and other federal agents as well as all statewide police nationwide.


 

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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 02:14 PM
In NYC the violence continues. Rayne Valentine came to NYC to help the covid patients. He works transporting them at Brooklyn Hospital. He was leaving his job at 11:45 pm his hospital ID-Badge was plainly visible on him and he saw a swarm of cops chasing protester he stepped back and started filming. The cops beat him up. He had to walk back to his hospital spend 7 hours there get 7 staples in his head and 2 CAT scans. The Daily Beast has info.

They are beating up food delivery workers too.

Https://www.twitter.com/PeterNHess

Https://www.independent.co.uk

Https://www.twitter.com/gideonoliver

Https://www.twitter.com/TaylorShubert

And a Palestinian gives advice to the protesters from what they have learned over there to identify the weapons being used so you know what is to come.

Https://www.twitter.com/rananazzalh

NYC is a war zone.


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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 02:48 PM
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"tangentially related" Nice try. You can not preach about the importance of defeating this virus and turn around in the next sentence and argue for an exception because it is "racially charged"....You are one of the biggest hypocrites here...

Not true at all. I never argued for an exception for protestors "because" it is racially charged - you're incorrectly applying the description of the situation as the cause for the response. I never even argued for an exception. I even mentioned here that protestors were going to complicate COVID-19 cases. This is yet another argument that you have created in your head.

And they are two issues that overlap like a Venn Diagram - they aren't the same issue, but affect each other! But you care more about the hypocrisy of every single police precinct's response to COVID-19 versus their response to protestors as if it should be exactly the same. As you have lauded, "one size does not fit all", these are all different situations even when similar, but you hypocritically want it to be the same because you think you have the right to go to a park anytime you want to. Talk about axe to grind. You can't see the forest from the trees.

Go play in park.


You are correct and I agree with the "one size does not fit all" answer to this dilemma. My argument has been and will remain the blatant hypocrisy among those here who preached the dangers of this virus including and not limited to the highly contagious aspects, the need for masks, social distancing and etc. These are the same people who are now as quiet as Church mice when faced with the very real possibility of a huge spike because of the total disregard of the danger still lurking. All under the flag of rights which has never been questioned, least of all by me. Go ahead, claim any defense that suits you, but if you were in the least consistent in your beliefs and the arguments you put forth here which I quoted, you would have been shouting STAY AT HOME, WEAR A MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCE just as loudly as you were before the horrible murder of George Floyd. But you have not and you've tried every reason under the sun to try to explain why the social rules we as a society agreed upon to defeat this virus, flatten the curve and keep the burden off the health care system, are not applicable. Merely mentioning that "protesters were going to complicate COVID-19 cases" is nowhere near the same as condemnation of a behavior that very likely could be responsible for the economy once more grounding to a halt...But hey, people got to march, loot and rob all while holding up signs.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 04:09 PM
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Go ahead, claim any defense that suits you, but if you were in the least consistent in your beliefs and the arguments you put forth here which I quoted, you would have been shouting STAY AT HOME, WEAR A MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCE just as loudly as you were before the horrible murder of George Floyd.


So you need a COVID-19 disclaimer ahead of every post about police murder and public outrage? Everyone else here is able to discuss two separate topics like adults, while being fully aware of the effect they have on each other. Well, apparently almost everyone, since you've been grinding your axe in every other thread. I've repeatedly said, I'm staying home. For some bizarre reason you think the whole planet is standing on a bridge in Minneapolis, shoulder-to-shoulder. If people want to safely protest or assemble, good for them. As soon as the protest began, everyone mentioned the fear of them reigniting COVID-19 (and that's assuming it's under any sort of control at the moment) Not all of us needed that explained repeatedly. But if you want my daily COVID-19 report, I'm happy to give it to you.

If protestors disobey officers of the law, I hope they get the one The Karen in Boise got and not a Chauvin (you know, the subject of the thread that you've disregarded)





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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 04:34 PM
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If people want to safely protest or assemble, good for them.


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The issue is places where people congregate - bars, churches, parks, stadiums, theaters, etc.


The above are both your quotes: "Where do you stand"? Are you for assembly everywhere? or just in the streets in the form of protest? Can people not "safely" do any of the above listed in the second quote?

 

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If people want to safely protest or assemble, good for them.

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The issue is places where people congregate - bars, churches, parks, stadiums, theaters, etc.

The above are both your quotes: "Where do you stand"? Are you for assembly everywhere? or just in the streets in the form of protest? Can people not "safely" do any of the above listed in the second quote?


Dude, seriously, this is not difficult, stop being so thick. Think it through. But with you it's always square peg >> round hole.

Protests and vigils have been OUTSIDE and people are now mostly used to staying apart from each other with masks on. In most areas, people have been allowed to be OUTSIDE yet far apart. Vigils are no different. Not saying absolutely no one could get sick, but people are taking precautions.

The others are places people sit RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER sharing seating and facilities. Most of those places I have not supported reopening of. None of this is perfect, but none of it is absolute - it's not one size fits all (except for you, sometimes it is when it's convenient for whatever it is you choose to be arguing at the moment).

 

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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 04:54 PM
Well now an ex-Analyst for the State and Defense Departments under the Obama administration is guaranteeing bail for her "best friend" who was charged with distributing molotov cocktails in NYC protest marches. The guarantor is now a lawyer making $255,000 year, and her education was financed through a scholarship by Paul and Daisy Soros. Paul Soros deceased now, was older brother to George Soros, who reportedly said he wants to get Trump out of office


Https://www.nypost.com/2020/06/04/ex-analyst-under-obama-guarantees-bail-fi r-alleged-bomb-throwing-lawyer

The alleged thrower, Urooj Rahman, Brooklyn lawyer.

The guarantor Salma Rivzi, NYU grad now works for Ropes, Gray in Washington, DC. She was the analyst for the State and Defense Departments.










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If people want to safely protest or assemble, good for them.

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The issue is places where people congregate - bars, churches, parks, stadiums, theaters, etc.

The above are both your quotes: "Where do you stand"? Are you for assembly everywhere? or just in the streets in the form of protest? Can people not "safely" do any of the above listed in the second quote?


Dude, seriously, this is not difficult, stop being so thick. Think it through. But with you it's always square peg >> round hole.

Protests and vigils have been OUTSIDE and people are now mostly used to staying apart from each other with masks on. In most areas, people have been allowed to be OUTSIDE yet far apart. Vigils are no different. Not saying absolutely no one could get sick, but people are taking precautions.

The others are places people sit RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER sharing seating and facilities. Most of those places I have not supported reopening of. None of this is perfect, but none of it is absolute - it's not one size fits all (except for you, sometimes it is when it's convenient for whatever it is you choose to be arguing at the moment).


Yet you keep defending your position. In these protests people are marching and standing RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER and you defend this which makes you a hypocrite.

Talk about thick

 

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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 05:10 PM
There are at least one million people heading to Washington, DC tomorrow for the renaming of a street there that the Mayor has authorized be renamed Black Lives Matter Blvd.

With regard to what is going on with these protests.

1. BLM wants change.

2 Soros wants Trump out of office. A covert coup is going on.
The rogue part of the CIA is helping the Soros agenda. They do what they usually do. Help one group defeat another, then they decimate the group they helped [which in reality means used to do their dirty work]. Example Al Qaeda 1980's and then, well you know what happened at Tora Bora, the US bombed 2 caves out of 17. One belonged to Osama, he wasn't in there, he was with the women who couldn't take the aerial bombardments. They escaped into Pakistan and 2011 was another turning point.

There is a coup going on. That is why rioters get dropped off in luxury cars with rocks and bricks provided to them. They bust windows, get picked up and dropped off at the next point.

COUP.

Https://www.twitter.com/gideonoliver

NYPD Intelligence Analysts and FBI questioning people who are arrested.

Yup. The Swamp creatures out there .





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I want to clarify something regarding carnage in Buffalo.

Https://www.nypost.com/2020/06/05/buffalo-emergency-response-team-quits-in- solidarity-of-cops

Martin Gugino a 75 year old peace activist was was pushed to the ground his skull was fractured, and the cops that pushed him left him there to die. He is in the hospital.

Some reports say the entire 57 members of the Buffalo Emergency Response Team quit. Well fine but the only quit THAT unit. They are still cops on the force including the two who pushed Mr. Gugino down. They were suspended but that's all.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 06:05 PM
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In these protests people are marching and standing RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER and you defend this which makes you a hypocrite.


Not at all accurate. It's clear you are frustrated by your lack of understanding of the situation and facts, you can't even maintain a discussion without mischaracterizing what someone else writes. You're arguing in circles with yourself. I've responded to this phantom accusation about protestors. Repeatedly. It's clear you're just trolling.

 

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  posted on 6/5/2020 at 06:06 PM
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The death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police has resulted in 10 days and nights of protests against racial injustice in major cities from California to Washington, DC, and Robert Redfield, MD, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told members of Congress yesterday that protesters need to get tested for COVID-19.

Redfield noted that D.C. and Minneapolis—two cities with the largest mass gatherings—still have significant community spread.

"I do think there is a potential, unfortunately, for this to be a seeding event," Redfield said, according to the Washington Post. "And the way to minimize it is to have each individual to recognize it's to the advantage of them to protect their loved ones, to [say]: 'Hey, I was out. I need to go get tested.' You know, in three, five, seven days, go get tested. Make sure you're not infected."



Fingers crossed that all of these people who felt it important enough to congregate in the streets thought about the possible repercussions of their decision and the effect it might have on others including the possible resurgence of this virus.

Right, sure they did

 

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In these protests people are marching and standing RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER and you defend this which makes you a hypocrite.


Not at all accurate. It's clear you are frustrated by your lack of understanding of the situation and facts, you can't even maintain a discussion without mischaracterizing what someone else writes. You're arguing in circles with yourself. I've responded to this phantom accusation about protestors. Repeatedly. It's clear you're just trolling.


Then stop responding Pal

 

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someone will have to explain to me how firing tear gas into a peacefully demonstrating crowd conveys law and order


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Well now an ex-Analyst for the State and Defense Departments under the Obama administration is guaranteeing bail for her "best friend" who was charged with distributing molotov cocktails in NYC protest marches. The guarantor is now a lawyer making $255,000 year, and her education was financed through a scholarship by Paul and Daisy Soros. Paul Soros deceased now, was older brother to George Soros, who reportedly said he wants to get Trump out of office


Https://www.nypost.com/2020/06/04/ex-analyst-under-obama-guarantees-bail-fi r-alleged-bomb-throwing-lawyer

The alleged thrower, Urooj Rahman, Brooklyn lawyer.

The guarantor Salma Rivzi, NYU grad now works for Ropes, Gray in Washington, DC. She was the analyst for the State and Defense Departments.
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I'm getting really tired of these stupid George Soros conspiracy theories. People get all upset and posting pictures of fake flyers. Just another example of trying to discredit a jew who likes to donate his money to liberal causes. So what? Same thing with all these dumb Bill Gates conspiracy theories. It's really gotten stupid of late.

 

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I want to clarify something regarding carnage in Buffalo.

Https://www.nypost.com/2020/06/05/buffalo-emergency-response-team-quits-in- solidarity-of-cops

Martin Gugino a 75 year old peace activist was was pushed to the ground his skull was fractured, and the cops that pushed him left him there to die. He is in the hospital.

Some reports say the entire 57 members of the Buffalo Emergency Response Team quit. Well fine but the only quit THAT unit. They are still cops on the force including the two who pushed Mr. Gugino down. They were suspended but that's all.




I don't like seeing the man get hurt, but what was he doing approaching...with police advancing the wrong thing to do is to advance towards them. Police were doing their job.

 

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With regard to what is going on with these protests.

1. BLM wants change.


Like Defund Police.

No Minneapolis police department. Wonder how that would work out? Yup, I'm done wondering, it would be disaster. But hey, let them try it and see how they like it. How many people would move out and how many businesses would close?

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Council member Jeremiah Ellison, son of Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison — who is leading the case against the officers involved in Floyd’s death — took a more radical approach.

“We are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department. And when we’re done, we’re not simply gonna glue it back together. We are going to dramatically rethink how we approach public safety and emergency response. It’s really past due,” Ellison wrote on Twitter Thursday.


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Council President Lisa Bender joined Ellison’s call to dismantle the department.

“We are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department and replace it with a transformative new model of public safety,” Bender wrote on Twitter Thursday.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/501321-members-of-min neapolis-city-council-vow-to-dismantle-police


 

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I want to clarify something regarding carnage in Buffalo.

Https://www.nypost.com/2020/06/05/buffalo-emergency-response-team-quits-in- solidarity-of-cops

Martin Gugino a 75 year old peace activist was was pushed to the ground his skull was fractured, and the cops that pushed him left him there to die. He is in the hospital.

Some reports say the entire 57 members of the Buffalo Emergency Response Team quit. Well fine but the only quit THAT unit. They are still cops on the force including the two who pushed Mr. Gugino down. They were suspended but that's all.




I don't like seeing the man get hurt, but what was he doing approaching...with police advancing the wrong thing to do is to advance towards them. Police were doing their job.


He had a card or piece of paper in his hand. Either showing them something or wanting to give them something. They cannot push, shove or throw people to the ground and I have seen such horror in live coverage all over. They just regard people as dirtbags.

They also saw he was bleeding and one cop said he is bleeding from his ear and others saw blood under his head and they just walk away. Where is the Justice For Martin Gugino?

 

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George Floyd Memorial Service North Carolina today. Public viewing allowed 11 am to 1 pm.

Cape Fear Conference B Headquarters
1025 Fayetteville Road
Raeford, NC

Private service 3 pm.

Use side entrances to come in. Leave thru main door. They will let in small groups at a time.

Https://www.fayobserver.com/news/20200606/latest-george-floyd-viewing-in-ra eford-under-way

Reporters:
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Michael Futch @FO_Futch
Https://www.twitter.com/FO_Futch

Kara Evendon @Karaevenson
Https://www.twitter.com/Karaevensin

Rachael Riley @RachaelRiley85
Https://www.twitter.com/rachaelriley85





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Meanwhile in DC, Mayor Bowser officially renamed the portion of 16th Street NW Black Lives Matter Plaza NW. It runs in front of the White House.

Https://www.yahoo.con/entertainment/washington-d-c-mayor-muriel-191300046.h tml

Https://twitter.com/MayorBowser

Dedication today, as protests continue in the Capitol for justice in the death of George Floyd.



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