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Author: Subject: Why do Americans think Trump will win despite being behind in the polls?

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 01:35 PM
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. . .all I see is hate.


Sounds like a real bummer for you ! I've been seeing a lot of upbeat wit and lively banter, and some sarcasm and more serious sparring, but hate, none since the captain threw the trolls overboard.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 10:59 AM
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. . .all I see is hate. From my perspective you all KNOW Biden can't win this election and it seems to be making you all crazy.


Sounds like a real bummer for you ! I've been seeing a lot of upbeat wit and lively banter, and some sarcasm and more serious sparring, but hate, none since the captain threw the trolls overboard.
Not a bummer for me at all. I don't hate our President. I kind of like him. You left the most important part of my comment out though. you know, the part that bothers you. I fixed it.

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 11:08 AM
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. . you know, the part that bothers you


Nice try - didnt bother me at all, I think Biden is a d!ck. If all you see on this board is hate that is on you.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 03:14 PM
With the corona concerns nationwide, social distancing and the predicted second wave of it in the fall campaigning as usual with the road tours meeting constituents and their babies isn't likely. This election will be media based and you all know how the media feels about President Trump. On top of that Mike Bloomberg former NYC Mayor who Trump gave the moniker of mini Mike, donated 250 million to Biden's campaign, and recently George Soros remarked that he wanted to see Trump destroyed.

Some think you can't stop the Trump Train. Since he is already President he is emboldened more than ever to stay in office.

It will be interesting but he does have supporters. They were with him then and will be with him again. That's why I think he will win.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 04:57 PM
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With the corona concerns nationwide, social distancing and the predicted second wave of it in the fall campaigning as usual with the road tours meeting constituents and their babies isn't likely. This election will be media based and you all know how the media feels about President Trump. On top of that Mike Bloomberg former NYC Mayor who Trump gave the moniker of mini Mike, donated 250 million to Biden's campaign, and recently George Soros remarked that he wanted to see Trump destroyed.

Some think you can't stop the Trump Train. Since he is already President he is emboldened more than ever to stay in office.

It will be interesting but he does have supporters. They were with him then and will be with him again. That's why I think he will win.




Well, Trump certainly has lots of supporters and they are as loyal to him as members of any cult are to their leader. They will show up and they will vote. On the other hand, more than half of America dislike Trump and Biden doesn't have a cult following. So, the only question is who shows up at the polls in November? We know the Republicans are doing everything possible to suppress the vote. If they are successful, than Trump wins. The more people show up in the swing states, the better for Biden. The older voters in Florida have turned to Biden over Trump. If they vote than it is over for Trump. Trump can't win without Florida...period.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 06:52 PM
I nor,ally donít agree with absolute statements but pretty sure Trump loses Florida he is toast. He could still be toast if winning Florida. I donít like to think along those terms because I always think it is possible he loses a state like a Florida but what if he flips Virginia and a Minnesota?

Each side has their base and lock-step voters. They donít determine elections. Trump needs voters outside his base which I think will be difficult for him to attract and depend on.

I read some posts on this forum about fears in the 2004 election and transfer of power. Bush was no dictator and his supporters were not extremists - not even close yet some feared he would do whatever it took to stay in power. But this time....I think we are in for a fight no matter who wins. Can you imagine the outrage if Trump wins? People will be outright apocalyptic - I mean more than they already are. And you think the relatively small number of potential trouble makers backing Trump are going to go silently? I think both sides could riot when they lose and no matter who loses the election results will be drawn out and contested.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 07:13 PM
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...all I see is hate...

Not hate. Deep disappointment and deep embarrassment. Trump is a thug. Trump is petty.

Trump is refusing to host Obama for the traditional Presidential Portrait Unveiling at the WH. It's a tradition. Obama hosted George W. Bush in 2012; Bush hosted Bill Clinton in 2004; Clinton hosted George H.W. Bush in 1995; and the elder Bush hosted Ronald Reagan in 1989. Michelle Obama went out of her way to make it "perfect" for the Bush's, setting a long table so their extended family could join the luncheon, and having them being served by the same butlers who attended to the Bush's for years in the upstairs residence.

He $h!t$ on the Constitution and traditions daily.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 07:35 PM
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I nor,ally donít agree with absolute statements but pretty sure Trump loses Florida he is toast. He could still be toast if winning Florida. I donít like to think along those terms because I always think it is possible he loses a state like a Florida but what if he flips Virginia and a Minnesota?




So lets take a look at what has happened in Virginia in recent years. It has gone from a red to a purpleish / blue state to a blue state for all intensive purposes.

Lets look at the numbers. Both US Senators are Democrats. In the 2018 midterms the US House members flipped from GOP to Dems 7 to 4. The governor, LT gov, and AG are all Democrats. The state legislature is controlled by Dems in both houses. In addition, in the last presidential election Trump lost to the right wingers' best scapegoat, Hillary Clinton.

So I really don't know why you'd mention the possibility of Trump flipping Virginia or what your reasoning on that is. It's not happening.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 07:53 PM
We both agree that a Trump will have an uphill challenge.

I do wonder about a Virginia. How energized might people be to push back against a controversial Governor (guns, abortion)?

Hillary did win, but I recall it being closer than expected and that was with a Virginian on the ticket.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 08:08 PM
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We both agree that a Trump will have an uphill challenge.

I do wonder about a Virginia. How energized might people be to push back against a controversial Governor (guns, abortion)?

Hillary did win, but I recall it being closer than expected and that was with a Virginian on the ticket.


I have said several times that the 2018 midterms were a referendum on Trump. He said he was on the ballot. Look at the results. 2018 portends 2020. Trump will not win Virginia and will probably have to fight harder in gimme states previously seen as red.

I'm not seeing this as a close election. The charity challenge remains open to any Trump believers. Unless he can supress votes, he will be toast.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 08:19 PM
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We both agree that a Trump will have an uphill challenge.

I do wonder about a Virginia. How energized might people be to push back against a controversial Governor (guns, abortion)?

Hillary did win, but I recall it being closer than expected and that was with a Virginian on the ticket.


I don't see any chance of Virginia going to Trump. Virginia is turning more blue every year in the same manner that Missouri is turning more red by the year. In fact, I don't see Trump winning any states he didn't win last time, other than a longshot of winning Nevada or NH.

Of the states he won last time, Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and North Carolina are all in play, and I will be shocked if at least half of those don't flip. Biden seem like the kind of candidate that the Midwest and Florida votes could get behind. Although I would say it is not probable, it's within the realm of possibility that Ohio could flip, and an outside shot of Texas and Georgia. That's a lot of states for Trump to protect.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2020 at 08:34 PM
Iím not predicting it, just wondering about it (VA).

I expect at least 2 out of 3 MI, PA and WI to go blue again.

What about Minnesota?

I know there have been some stories and recent trends about a Texas, but Texas isnít going blue.

 
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