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Zen Peach



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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 02:17 PM
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Thought experiment: Given your resistance-based outlook, back in the mid-1800s when germ theory was developing, would you have been interested at all or would you have rejected it automatically?

Times change, personality types do not .


Haha! "resistance-based outlook"....

Would all people have worn face masks everywhere in the 1800's?

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 02:29 PM
Would you have been part of the "drag population" laughing at handwashing in 1867? Surely you know yourself well enough to know which type of reaction you would have experienced in any era given your present mindset.
 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 02:36 PM
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Would you have been part of the "drag population" laughing at handwashing in 1867? Surely you know yourself well enough to know which type of reaction you would have experienced in any era given your present mindset.


Am I in direct conflict with wearing a face mask just because everyone else is and the social and media driven pressure to do so with no definitive proof that it is helping. I can not speak to the mores of what people believed in 1867 anymore than you can.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 02:39 PM
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So we just have to be patient with our slowcoaches. They will tire of being laughed at eventually.

I don't care about the slowcoaches's positions. They can do whatever they want & accept the consequences to themselves & others. I think liberal-shaming for adhering to health guidelines in a pandemic is misguided at best & offensive at worst.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 02:50 PM
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So we just have to be patient with our slowcoaches. They will tire of being laughed at eventually.

I don't care about the slowcoaches's positions. They can do whatever they want & accept the consequences to themselves & others. I think liberal-shaming for adhering to health guidelines in a pandemic is misguided at best & offensive at worst.


I am curious as to why you've labeled it as "Liberal shaming"?

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 02:54 PM
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I think liberal-shaming for adhering to health guidelines in a pandemic is misguided at best & offensive at worst.


I don't know about liberalshaming, new term for me, I can say I am getting the snide smirks from the maskless.

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Am I in direct conflict with wearing a face mask just because everyone else is and the social and media driven pressure to do so . . .


You're asking me? I don't know you and I have no idea why you do anything. What you do is your business. I do think right now hollerin around about mask rights on social media is pretty dumb.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 02:56 PM
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You're asking me?


I was not.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 03:05 PM
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Am I in direct conflict with wearing a face mask just because everyone else is and the social and media driven pressure to do so . . .

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Then who were you asking? Or was it more of a general question to the universe?

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 03:16 PM
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Am I in direct conflict with wearing a face mask just because everyone else is and the social and media driven pressure to do so . . .

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Then who were you asking? Or was it more of a general question to the universe?


It was directed at Cyclone88....Curiosity.."I think liberal-shaming for adhering to health guidelines in a pandemic is misguided at best & offensive at worst." ....What does this mean?

"Liberal shaming"?

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 03:16 PM


I'm guessing this protester is almost out of smoke and not looking forward to resin hits.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 05:40 PM
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One of the most f*cked up posts I've ever wasted 20 seconds of my life on.


Is that how you greet a member we haven't seen for 5 years?

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 06:49 PM
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One of the most f*cked up posts I've ever wasted 20 seconds of my life on.


Is that how you greet a member we haven't seen for 5 years?


Is that what a member who hasn't been here for five years posts upon his return?

OK, fine. Welcome back Bruce. My 90+ year old family members, affectionately referred to as "geezers", sure are glad about your return

Better?

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 06:50 PM
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Have you seen that person, driving in a car by themselves, wearing a mask?


I am sure it makes their day when you glare and stare in judgement of the sheeple at the red light stop. I see this rarely, and if I do I don't think twice about their business. I don't know about where you live, but in towns around here, regular midsize population 100k or so, very few people other than grocery workers, USPS, gas attendants, etc are using masks. The vast majority of people are not wearing masks.

I am not complaining or bellyaching that they should, am just pointing out what is going on. I am the odd one out everywhere I go. I did not take precautions until a couple weeks in, I did not take it seriously until folks started dropping like flies. The reality that most don't give a hoot about precautions clinched it, I wear a mask now.

Today at the KwikMart, 15 people including employees, not one mask or glove in sight, except for me - and I was getting looks. Oh well - I guess they all thought I was out to rob them of their rights.

So cut the "persecuted minority" act. You are the majority.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 07:03 PM
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Have you seen that person, driving in a car by themselves, wearing a mask?
Follow the money.


To all y'all, QUIT STARING AT ME.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 07:11 PM
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To all y'all, QUIT STARING AT ME.


Keep it on, man. Believe me we would stare at you worse if we could see your face! Damn, man you should sign up as an extra for The Walking Dead!

 

Zen Peach



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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 07:19 PM
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I am sure it makes their day when you glare and stare in judgement of the sheeple at the red light stop.


Yep, that's what I was doing alright.....Glancing and noticing is now equated with...."Staring in Judgement".....

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So cut the "persecuted minority" act. You are the majority.


In choosing to not wear a mask?...Whad'ya know about that!....LOL, I have never claimed to be part of a "persecuted minority" and just because you have applied a label, does not make it so. Just chuckling over the amount of people who've forgotten how to think for themselves...

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 07:20 PM
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Am I in direct conflict with wearing a face mask just because everyone else is and the social and media driven pressure to do so . . .

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Then who were you asking? Or was it more of a general question to the universe?


It was directed at Cyclone88....Curiosity.."I think liberal-shaming for adhering to health guidelines in a pandemic is misguided at best & offensive at worst." ....What does this mean?

"Liberal shaming"?


Bill Maher, YouTube. Liberal shaming. You'll love it.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 07:28 PM
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. . .chuckling over the amount of people who've forgotten how to think for themselves...


How do you know they are not thinking for themselves?

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 07:36 PM
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Am I in direct conflict with wearing a face mask just because everyone else is and the social and media driven pressure to do so . . .

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Then who were you asking? Or was it more of a general question to the universe?


It was directed at Cyclone88....Curiosity.."I think liberal-shaming for adhering to health guidelines in a pandemic is misguided at best & offensive at worst." ....What does this mean?

"Liberal shaming"?


Bill Maher, YouTube. Liberal shaming. You'll love it.


Looked. I see fat shaming and people who are ashamed to be white, but no "Liberal shaming" videos

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 07:38 PM
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. . .chuckling over the amount of people who've forgotten how to think for themselves...


How do you know they are not thinking for themselves?


I don't. Just a guess based on the populace's current skill set at "follow the leader"

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 08:13 PM
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Just a guess based on the populace's current skill set at "follow the leader"


In a word - prejudice.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 08:20 PM
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Just a guess based on the populace's current skill set at "follow the leader"


In a word - prejudice.


Your definition not mine and yes... I am getting used to your having to label everything.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 10:21 PM
A simple objective observation, no more, no less. Prejudice means to pre-judge. When you assume someone driving with a mask on is a sheeple not thinking for his or her self that is a pre-judgement.

Calling people sheep is bigotry.

[Edited on 5/1/2020 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 5/1/2020 at 07:30 AM
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Would all people have worn face masks everywhere in the 1800's?

Well, some doctors in Europe did, though styles have certainly changed.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2020 at 09:54 AM
To wrap up my feelings on the masks, if that is what we should do in order to start coming out of our shells and open businesses then I'm fine with that. All other issues and concerns noted.

Ohio is extending the stay at home order until the end of May. As businesses open, there will be exceptions for activity related to those businesses. Today we have medical facilities and offices, veterinary places and dentists opening. May 4th distribution centers, manufacturing and construction that may've been closed or halted can resume. Same with general office locations. May 12th retail can open. Exceptions will be allowed for those on top of the already allowed exceptions for essential workers and essential needs plus exercise allowance.

I'm fine with a slow approach to reopen businesses with the precautions that are being put into place. But at this point, what does stay home mean now anyway? They want to keep people from congregating in parks and playing sports with close physical contact...that's fine. Hospitals and long term care and prisons are going to restrict visitation regardless of a stay at home order. I feel like those things can, and are addressed on their own without this broad stay at home order all while less and less people are going to be staying at home this month as they open businesses.

It makes me think of a seat belt sign on the airplane. I heard a pilot describe it once like this - you have to take the seat belt sign off occasionally because if you leave it on too long people are going to ignore it and get up and move around with the sign on. So you take it off every now and then and then put it back on and people are more likely to follow it.

There's going to be so many exceptions in it now, really it's going to get where the exception is staying at home.

More and more people have started to tune Dewine out. I guess I'm falling into that camp now. You tell people to stay at home all while activity is going to be increasing in the state this month...really the stay at home order is going to apply to fewer and fewer people in the coming days and weeks. It's run it's course and essentially become meaningless.

 
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