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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 08:44 AM
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VP update, AP is saying Kamala Harris, Susan Rice and Elizabeth Warren are finalists
Yep you guys were right, Hillary didnít make the cut - glad I didnít take the wager that was offered


Yeah, no way he would bring Hillary and her baggage back on. No way she would take a back seat. I think Harris or Rice are great choices. I like Warren, but she doesn't have the broad appeal that Biden really needs.


"Broad appeal". Now, that's just sexist as hell dontch'a think?

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 08:58 AM
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"Broad appeal". Now, that's just sexist as hell dontch'a think?

haha, I won't lie, I was thinking that as I was typing it.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 10:46 AM
If Hillary could not beat Trump, how is creepy Joe gonna pull it off?

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 11:00 AM
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If Hillary could not beat Trump, how is creepy Joe gonna pull it off?


Because people have experienced the Trump nightmare long enough. It is obvious McConnell thinks Trump is going to lose, as he is making a last ditch effort to pack the courts while he can. I know you are going to reject the polls, but at this point it is looking like a Biden landslide. The senate is also looking to be in play, which nobody believed would be possible last year. McConnell might even lose his seat. Everyday Trump opens his mouth he falls a little more in the polls and he may take the senate with him.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 11:18 AM
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If Hillary could not beat Trump, how is creepy Joe gonna pull it off?


Because people have experienced the Trump nightmare long enough. It is obvious McConnell thinks Trump is going to lose, as he is making a last ditch effort to pack the courts while he can. I know you are going to reject the polls, but at this point it is looking like a Biden landslide. The senate is also looking to be in play, which nobody believed would be possible last year. McConnell might even lose his seat. Everyday Trump opens his mouth he falls a little more in the polls and he may take the senate with him.


Well, as always, I have never placed any faith in Polls and I believe the same scenario that played out in '16 is going to repeat itself here in 2020. You democrats have learned nothing in 4 years, take a look at this board and the response anyone here receives at the slightest hint of supporting the President. We are still so polarized and I think the left perceives the Trump supporters unwillingness to argue and defend their positions for fear of the same type of backlash you see daily here as a vote for Biden. The silence speaks volumes and come election day you are going to be shocked yet again.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 11:21 AM
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It's gotta be Harris. She's perfect for the role. Smart and tough as nails.


I hope so - I really dont like Warren, she seems like a sanctimonious phony. Maybe we will get lucky and Biden will have a heart attack after getting sworn in and Harris will be president.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 11:30 AM
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If Hillary could not beat Trump, how is creepy Joe gonna pull it off?


Because people have experienced the Trump nightmare long enough. It is obvious McConnell thinks Trump is going to lose, as he is making a last ditch effort to pack the courts while he can. I know you are going to reject the polls, but at this point it is looking like a Biden landslide. The senate is also looking to be in play, which nobody believed would be possible last year. McConnell might even lose his seat. Everyday Trump opens his mouth he falls a little more in the polls and he may take the senate with him.


Well, as always, I have never placed any faith in Polls and I believe the same scenario that played out in '16 is going to repeat itself here in 2020. You democrats have learned nothing in 4 years, take a look at this board and the response anyone here receives at the slightest hint of supporting the President. We are still so polarized and I think the left perceives the Trump supporters unwillingness to argue and defend their positions for fear of the same type of backlash you see daily here as a vote for Biden. The silence speaks volumes and come election day you are going to be shocked yet again.


Maybe the polls are wrong, but most polls showed Hillary up by about 2 points. The polls are showing Biden up by 8 to 12 points. I think you are underestimating the dislike of Trump in this country. He still has is 40% floor that he will never lose no matter how bad he is, but even with the electoral college advantage he has, it will be as much a miracle for him to win as coronavirus being gone by April.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 11:34 AM
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take a look at this board...and come election day you are going to be shocked yet again.

You may want to take a closer look at this board. I've never said anything except I think Trump will be re-elected. Frankly, I couldn't care less who the dem VP nominee is. I find all the polls/predictions/prognostications re the election for 2 years to be an enormous waste of my time so I don't participate in speculation. In 2016, I paid zero attention prior to Election Day except to vote in the NY primary, voted, & woke up to find Trump had won. THAT was a surprise. Having him win again in 2020 wouldn't surprise me in the least.

It may be easier for you to lump everyone of the same party into a single mindset, but it has nothing to do w/reality.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 11:44 AM
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I think you are underestimating the dislike of Trump in this country.


And I believe you are overestimating the "power" of assumption. People don't disagree, therefore they are voting for Biden.

Once again the "Fly-over" states will reign

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 11:46 AM
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I've never said anything except I think Trump will be re-elected.


Same here - I was certain Trump would get elected in 2016, the minute I heard he was running - I never underestimate the power of ignorance.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 11:54 AM
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I never underestimate the power of ignorance.


Is this a Biden reference?

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 12:07 PM
Ow ! My butt hurts!
 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 12:14 PM
Periodically I feel the need to do a confidence post, reality check, and use The Charity Challenge to give any believer in Donald Trump the chance to win $. I take Biden, and you can have Trump. Bets start at $100.00.

For anyone who has taken the other challenge - that HC will enter as a candidate or be a VP on the ticket, I'm upping the odds to 3:1 to add to current bets.

Anybody game here? Back your posts & show your confidence in Trump to win & HC to be the VP nominee since you've already lost out on HC becoming the prez nominee.


 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 12:34 PM
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I think you are underestimating the dislike of Trump in this country.


And I believe you are overestimating the "power" of assumption. People don't disagree, therefore they are voting for Biden.

Once again the "Fly-over" states will reign


You make is sound like Trump supporters are quiet wallflowers. I find them quite the opposite. Trump supporters love those red hats and they will use any opportunity to insult the "libtards" and hail Trump the greatest president in history. Those people are still out there, but fortunately they are a minority. But like Trump says, anything that doesn't praise him is fake news. Must be depressing for Trump when his favorite Fox News polls show him down 10 points to Biden.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 12:53 PM
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Periodically I feel the need to do a confidence post, reality check, and use The Charity Challenge to give any believer in Donald Trump the chance to win $. I take Biden, and you can have Trump. Bets start at $100.00.

For anyone who has taken the other challenge - that HC will enter as a candidate or be a VP on the ticket, I'm upping the odds to 3:1 to add to current bets.

Anybody game here? Back your posts & show your confidence in Trump to win & HC to be the VP nominee since you've already lost out on HC becoming the prez


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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 12:53 PM
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Trump supporters love those red hats


And your point is?......Just who exactly do those red hats bother?

So, if you are "bothered" by a red hat. whose issue is that?

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 01:02 PM
If you are bothered by people who are bothered by a red hat whose issue is that?
 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 01:03 PM
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If you are bothered by people who are bothered by a red hat whose issue is that?


I am not. But the question remains. "What is the problem with the red hats"?

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 01:10 PM
What is the problem with Redcoats?

What is the problem with Bluecoats?

No problem with the apparel, but the sympathies they advertise.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 01:23 PM
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And your point is?


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take a look at this board and the response anyone here receives at the slightest hint of supporting the President. I think the left perceives the Trump supporters unwillingness to argue and defend their positions for fear


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But the question remains. "What is the problem with the red hats"?


Brother BIGV, just because you and I are among the first group of voters in American history to cosplay for a United States President, they want to label us as radical extremist cult members, or something. There are many groups of people that wear identifiable clothing and symbols to mark themselves as members of a group or clan........it's not radical or abnormal at all, right? It's as American as apple pie to us true Patriots, am I right Brother BIGV?


The attempt at condescension is humorous; I am not your brother.

Clear?

 

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  posted on 6/16/2020 at 01:27 PM
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What is the problem with Redcoats?

What is the problem with Bluecoats?

No problem with the apparel, but the sympathies they advertise.


So, is the the issue the alleged antagonist?...or the individual who claims the hat and wearer are purposely trying to antagonize?

If the answer is (B) you may be a snowflake

 

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So, is the the issue the alleged antagonist?...or the individual who claims the hat and wearer are purposely trying to antagonize?

If the answer is (B) you may be a snowflake


No issue at all - that's just you trying to make my statement more than what it is. The Redhats wear red hats as a symbol of their sympathies. That is all I said.

 

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  posted on 6/19/2020 at 08:02 AM
Big day yesterday.

One of the strangest things was seeing the airport parking lot so empty. They closed off the extended lot and let everyone park in long term at the extended rate ($8 a day). Limited airline workers at the baggage counters, not many customers. Security was a breeze, I'm TSA pre, there were only 2 of us going through for an 8:30am flight. Airport pretty dead except for a couple of gates that had flights. Some food shops open. Magazine/snack/book store open. All other shops closed. It felt like when you are at the airport late at night and everything is closed.

There was almost universal mask wearing in the airport. A rare exception of an individual who didn't have one on...some people had their's pulled down around their neck. Southwest is not sitting anyone in their middle seat through September 30th unless passengers are flying together they can sit there. Anyone who did not have a mask was given one at the gate. The only people I saw who didn't while boarding were teenage kids flying alone. SW gave them masks. SW offered snacks and water, no other beverages. The flight was maybe 2/3 full.

Rental car place was the least busy I've ever seen it. We were only people getting a car the entire time we were at the counter! Beats the 30minute or longer waits in line! That was really nice. Denver traffic wasn't bad for mid day.

Here in a rural mountain town of Colorado, I see more people wearing masks around town than I did back in Ohio. This county has had under 100 coronavirus cases, 3/4 of which came from nursing home residents and staff. Nobody is currently hospitalized here with covid, the hospital is at 40% capacity just with normal every day use.

Town is busy. Tourist season is here. Talked to my realtor friend, he said in some ways he is busier than normal. The number of closings are down and the days on market are up from both last month and this time last year. But median price is up.

Like Ohio, Colorado new cases have been steadily declining, as have hospitalizations. Felt ok about leaving a state that has good trajectory on numbers coming to a state that has good trajectory on numbers. Hopefully didn't catch anything at the airport or to and from.

Colorado no longer has a self isolation for out of state people. Restaurants here are open with limited seating, most have tried to expand outdoor seating. One town nearby closed a street so businesses could put tables out there. Breweries are not open it doesn't look like (edit - they're open to make beer, but not for customers to come drink). My friend goes to a local winery out here, he says they open up one day a week for customers.

We won't be spending much time around town anyway. In the mountains we go!

[Edited on 6/19/2020 by nebish]

 

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  posted on 6/19/2020 at 08:06 AM
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The Redhats wear red hats as a symbol of their sympathies.


Is this not why anyone wears a hat with a political emblem or meaning? If so, why repeatedly point it out?

 

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  posted on 6/19/2020 at 11:14 AM
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Breweries are not open it doesn't look like (edit - they're open to make beer, but not for customers to come drink). My friend goes to a local winery out here, he says they open up one day a week for customers.

That's interesting, here in Florida breweries are open (at 50% capacity, like restaurants), but bars are not. It's a loophole since breweries are classified as manufacturers with a sampling room (which is essentially a bar). Meanwhile, cases are climbing and the Governor shows no sign of changing his re-opening plan. Just have to wait and see how it goes.

 

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