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  posted on 5/19/2020 at 09:30 PM
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Interesting, if it is pointless to whom are you being courteous?


So far in my interactions it definitely puts coworkers at ease, checkout clerks who face people all day seem to appreciate it and respond positively. I even do a quick courtesy probably useless mask pull-up when passing folks on the trail. Some people are really terrified and are clearly grateful for the gesture. Other folks on lines. You know, people, same as anyplace. That is who I am being courteous to.

As far as work goes, it is not optional. And you know what? So what.

 

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  posted on 5/19/2020 at 09:38 PM
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Some people are really terrified and are clearly grateful for the gesture.


Mmmm. Too many News broadcasts where the Death totals in Spain are the lead story. Perhaps not wearing a mask could be an indicator that you are not afraid and are ready to get back to life....

Flip a coin

 

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  posted on 5/19/2020 at 09:43 PM
I'm with BrerRabbit, I do it out of courtesy like I had posted about before. Customers are not required by the state to wear one (unless the business mandates patrons wear one, which they can do), but if all the employees have to do it...some of which probably don't like having to do it, I'll do it too with them.

I think it probably helps some, but even if it didn't...I'll pick another battle to fight another day. The mask really is fine. Some people will wear one, some people won't. I don't go as far as wear one when I hike and most people I pass also don't have one, but I have passed 1 person who was hiking in the woods with a mask on and I passed 3 women who all pulled up their masks when I passed them. So whatever...it's mask season. I think most of us can live with that for a while to see where this thing ends up going.

 

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  posted on 5/19/2020 at 09:48 PM
So yeah, the haircut.

They lock the door so nobody can come in that they aren't ready for. It's a keyed deadbolt, they leave the key in it ,but I wonder about fire code on that.

You wait in your car until they call you. They checked my temperature upon entering, 100.4 or higher and you can't come in (that is per the state of Ohio). They sprayed my hands with something that I assumed was an alcohol product. The chair was still partially wet with disinfectant that was in the process of drying. They have shower curtains hanging from the ceiling between the chairs. 3 workers, all wearing face shields and 2 wearing masks. 4 patrons including me all wearing masks.

Lady that cut my hair is working 12 to 14 hour days right now M-F with one day off and some partial hours on Saturday.

 

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  posted on 5/19/2020 at 09:50 PM
Maybe so, lots of little things we do are useless as actual protection against the harsher vagaries of life. Why make this one of the many pointless customs a big deal? It is a fashion that is here to stay.

Instead of being the big toughguy drill sergeant you could maybe relax show a little respect and empathy for those not as brave as you and adopt a silly social convention to ease the tension.

 

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  posted on 5/19/2020 at 10:01 PM
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Instead of being the big toughguy drill sergeant you could maybe relax show a little respect and empathy for those not as brave as you and adopt a silly social convention to ease the tension.


You do you and I will do me.

 

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  posted on 5/19/2020 at 10:03 PM
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Instead of being the big toughguy drill sergeant you could maybe relax show a little respect and empathy for those not as brave as you and adopt a silly social convention to ease the tension.


You do you and I will do me.


I laughed.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 12:09 AM
Yeah I laughed too. I honestly do not give a damn what folks do. For sure if someone sneezes around me I am happier with a mask on, studies schmudies. I work in the US Forest Service so it is not optional, so I got used to it.. A new habit I am comfortable with it, makes sense to me. And the public appreciates the consideration.

@ nebish your haircut adventure sounded pretty surreal

[Edited on 5/20/2020 by BrerRabbit]

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 04:54 AM
Wearing a mask protects the next guy more than you. We all may be asymptomatic carriers. You should be grateful when your neighbor is wearing a mask. You should provide him with the same courtesy

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 05:10 AM
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Instead of being the big toughguy drill sergeant you could maybe relax show a little respect and empathy for those not as brave as you and adopt a silly social convention to ease the tension.


You do you and I will do me.


I laughed.


Not me.

On the contrary.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 07:02 AM
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Wearing a mask protects the next guy more than you. We all may be asymptomatic carriers. You should be grateful when your neighbor is wearing a mask. You should provide him with the same courtesy


I don't get the big deal of wearing a mask. There's no downside.

Stormy, The link you posted re the study of exactly what activities aerosolize the virus farther & longer was really helpful - singing more than running more than talking - & that the duration of being around potentially affected persons was more important than just passing them.

I've read some beach opening rules that allow sunbathing based on the assumption that sitting alone on a beach blanket is less risky than walking amidst a group of runners. The caution is not to sit there for 8 hours - more like 2.

So be a considerate human being & wear a mask when interacting w/others. As we keep being reminded, we're all in this together.




 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 08:12 AM
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Wearing a mask can significantly reduce coronavirus transmission, study on hamsters claims
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/coronavirus-wearing-a-mask-can-reduce-trans mission-by-75percent-new-study-claims.html



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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 08:44 AM
I wear the mask - if for no other reason than to show support and solidarity with the overworked hospital staffs and even the grocery store clerks and cashiers. I'm honestly not sure how much good the mask does (so many conflicting reports and opinions - especially on the internet), but it shows (I hope) that I am taking the virus seriously and am wiling to do my own part in lessening its effects.

The "anti-maskers" don't worry me as much as those who "have had enough", and insist on assembling in large groups in spite of warnings of the virus. This past weekend, a crowd reported to number near 3,000 assembled for a block party in Volusia County, Florida. I should've KNOWN, but I never suspected that you could assemble so many obstinate and ... "questionably intelligent" souls in one spot. I don't care if these folks were black, white, green or chartreuse - all of their drivers license or SSI number should be taken (without arrest) so that they can be denied access to scarce ventilators should they develop serious symptoms. I still imagine that down the road - somebody (or group of somebodies) will file a lawsuit against the government for failing to protect them from their own stupidity. Yeah, stay tuned! It'll happen.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/us/florida-block-party-arrests/index.html

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 10:20 AM
Was working on trail last week - I wasnt masked - there was a young woman wearing a mask who went six feet off trail into brush to maintain distance. I felt really bad - she was actually frightened of me. Now I pull up the mask when approaching folks.

Deal is, effective or not, it is helping folks cope. It is a simple new convention possibly dumb as a baseball hat is for sun protection or deodorant is against the chronic fierce b.o. of someone who eats a lot of junk food, or a wedding ring to ensure fidelity, or any number of silly social rituals.

Whatever you feel you are proving by circulating without a mask, whatever image you think you are projecting, in the new reality you are simply being perceived as a scary nasty old man who is exposing his ugly fanus.

Like it or not the mouth and nose are on their way to becomng private parts.



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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 10:31 AM
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Like it or not the mouth and nose are on their way to becomng private parts.

[Edited on 5/20/2020 by BrerRabbit]


So true, & so sad - this thing has kicked our butts from the onset - good observation

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 10:32 AM
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Was working on trail last week - I wasnt masked - there was a young woman wearing a mask who went six feet off trail into brush to maintain distance.


"To maintain distance"...As in respecting the 6 ft. social distancing guideline? I do the same and you know, this simple of act of respect can be so easily accomplished without a mask!

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 10:37 AM
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Deal is, effective or not, it is helping folks cope.


"Effective or not".....Good for you! Funny, the same people here who do not give a damn about others political feelings on this board and resort to epithets and name calling when a simple disagreement about the president arises are the same ones now preaching good, wholesome friendliness and respect toward others...Please. spare us this bullsh*t.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 10:44 AM
^ I get it, social change is irritating. Don't blame me, I am old school and wish I could still go around with my fanus showing.
 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 11:36 AM
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^ I get it, social change is irritating.


There is a huge difference between the evolution of agreed upon social behaviors and over reaction due solely to fear....But you are correct, the panic and the "change" some have adopted for themselves is extremely irritating.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 11:48 AM
^ Whatever the reasons for changing social conventions may be - they are happening. Dont shoot me I am only the messnger:

Vent away, the Whipping Post seems to be serving a worthwhile mental health purpose during these psychologically taxing changes.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 11:59 AM
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For BigV:

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Wearing a mask can significantly reduce coronavirus transmission, study on hamsters claims
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/coronavirus-wearing-a-mask-can-reduce-trans mission-by-75percent-new-study-claims.html



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I'm not sure what you're saying.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 12:05 PM
stumped me too
 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 12:37 PM
Nevermind. If you don't get why I laughed. Probably good we all don't think alike.
 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 12:42 PM
It was kind of a neat Zen riddle; I sort of got it but couldnt, but I just didnt get at all who Pierce was.
 

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  posted on 5/20/2020 at 12:46 PM
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"The new normal"How about a couple of examples detailing exactly what this means?

I used CA Gov. Gavin Newsom's description of what restaurants will look like in my post.


There's a problem right off the bat, like California is a gleaming example of how ANYTHING should be done.

 

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