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Author: Subject: South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem has it right

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  posted on 4/8/2020 at 12:26 PM
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Fauci comes from a world where uncertainty and the unknown are a large part of every plan to develop a drug or vaccine. You really dont know until you do the testing so you cant ever say for sure about the questions people want answers to now. These tests can take a year or more. Of course he is now thrust in the spotlight to answer these questions. Many of those asking the questions dont care about the answer, only whether it makes President Trump look bad.


You don't think Trump looks bad on his own?

 

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  posted on 4/8/2020 at 12:54 PM
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Fauci comes from a world where uncertainty and the unknown are a large part of every plan to develop a drug or vaccine. You really dont know until you do the testing so you cant ever say for sure about the questions people want answers to now. These tests can take a year or more. Of course he is now thrust in the spotlight to answer these questions. Many of those asking the questions dont care about the answer, only whether it makes President Trump look bad.


Fauci comes from a world of science and study that presents facts based upon findings. He is tasked to save lives and prevent death.

Trump comes from a world of conjecture, gut feelings, impulsive decison making, reactionary moves, and whatever in any given day he can squeeze out to make himself look good. Facts be damned in his world. Lies and blaming others are much more important for his self preservation.

So goob - I'll take my medical advice from Dr. Fauci, but you go ahead and take your medical advice from Dr. Trump.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2020 at 06:26 PM
Speaking of Coronavirus in South Dakota:

https://www.newsweek.com/meatpacking-giant-closes-south-dakota-plant-indefi nitely-after-almost-300-employees-test-positive-1497498?utm_term=Autofeed&a mp;utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1586728801

 

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  posted on 4/13/2020 at 02:27 AM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw

 

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  posted on 4/13/2020 at 03:33 AM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


That guy is a partisan hack who spreads more conspiracy theories than Gina. He even lied claiming to have invented email. The fact that he immediately went off into Trump loving, Obama hating politics really tells you all you need to know. Meanwhile, Fauci has worked for presidents from both parties and certainly is far from a partisan hack.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2020 at 06:26 AM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


That guy is a partisan hack who spreads more conspiracy theories than Gina. He even lied claiming to have invented email. The fact that he immediately went off into Trump loving, Obama hating politics really tells you all you need to know. Meanwhile, Fauci has worked for presidents from both parties and certainly is far from a partisan hack.


It's always easy to find exceptions and outliers to support any point of view and inject the usual desire for argument. From what I've read & seen, the consensus is that the medical community and the American public has confidence in Dr. Fauci and at percentages way beyond the guy who would challenge him at the podium.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2020 at 01:34 PM
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Speaking of Coronavirus in South Dakota:

https://www.newsweek.com/meatpacking-giant-closes-south-dakota-plant-indefi nitely-after-almost-300-employees-test-positive-1497498?utm_term=Autofeed&a mp;utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1586728801


This has happened in many states, some with strict stay at home orders like Colorado, Virginia, Pennsylvania.

The governors keep certain businesses open because they are essential and then the virus spreads there.

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 08:39 AM
It will be interesting to see how she responds now that the virus is in her backyard.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/coronavirus-cases-skyrocket-in-south-dakota/

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The Republican governor continues to resist a shutdown even as calls for such policies mount. The South Dakota State Medical Association penned a letter to Noem on April 3 urging her to institute a mandatory quarantine.

“A stay-at-home order would give our health professionals the necessary time and resources to manage this pandemic,” the group wrote on its website. “We may soon be facing the challenges and hardships being seen in New York and other cities if a shelter in place order is not issued immediately.”

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 09:39 AM
Yes, it will be watched very close as there are some vested interests in this nationally.

I do not view the outbreak at the meat packing facility as the issue here, because there have been similar issues around the country in various states. The potential problem is what were those infected allowed to do after they left work and were infected and didn't know it yet, potentially spreading it in a way that they might not have spread it in other states.

South Dakota Department of Health has some releases on recent positive cases. For instance they tell of an employee at O'Reilly Auto Parts testing positive. Could that person have gotten it from a Smithfield employee? They also list Tienda America, a food market. Well, auto parts stores and food markets in my state are open and Ohio has been praised nationally for actions Governor Dewine has taken. But there was a case from a diner 120 miles from Sioux Falls, just a small little dot on the map Lane SD. Restaurants were open in South Dakota, many recently have announced closures or take out only. Up to that point people from the Smithfield plant could've gone to a restaurant or diner and spread the disease unknowingly. Was this their acceptable risk, what will the fall out be?

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 12:28 PM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


That guy is a partisan hack who spreads more conspiracy theories than Gina. He even lied claiming to have invented email.



A "Partisan Hack" who just happens to be a graduate of M.I.T. (PHD) and there seems to be a legitimate argument that he did indeed have a lot to do with E-Mail becoming what it is.

Seems a "Partisan Hack" is anyone who veers off the course the mainstream media has paved...

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 01:19 PM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


That guy is a partisan hack who spreads more conspiracy theories than Gina. He even lied claiming to have invented email.



A "Partisan Hack" who just happens to be a graduate of M.I.T. (PHD) and there seems to be a legitimate argument that he did indeed have a lot to do with E-Mail becoming what it is.

Seems a "Partisan Hack" is anyone who veers off the course the mainstream media has paved...


I decided to watch the video. I had to stop when he said Fauci "is your typical example of the worst of the modern scientific establishment".

Look, Dr Ayyadurai knows way more about medical science than I ever will and so does Dr Fauci. I can certainly appreciate that there are differing opinions regarding viruses and immune response and pharmaceutical remedies, or otherwise.

But Dr Fauci is part of a team who is advising our government on what to do. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong. It is the same thing with Amy Acton in Ohio. She is under assault and criticism too. Until one of those critics actually replace her, there is no point in paying much attention to what they say. It is easy to sit on the sidelines and backseat drive this thing. The people in charge of these decisions carry the weight.

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 01:52 PM
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Maybe he's right, [maybe he's wrong.


This is the main issue in a nutshell. What gives "this expert" more credibility than that one? All of the experts are well educated and articulate. Is it about whom they represent?....That goes to agenda.

All of the experts agree that we've found vaccines for polio.....Let's use that as a standard

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 02:09 PM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


Might as well quote Dr. oz & "Dr." phil.

And McCoy, House, Spock, Doogie Houser, etc.

[Edited on 4/18/2020 by PhotoRon286]

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 02:18 PM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


Might as well quote Dr. oz & "Dr." phil.

And McCoy, House, Spock, Doogie Houser, etc.

[Edited on 4/18/2020 by PhotoRon286]


Did they graduate from M.I.T. with a PHD?

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 02:37 PM
Getting degrees and even advanced degrees is not difficult. The right mindset and work will get you there. Someone can be academically gifted and able to obtain a degree, a masters degree, or even a doctorate. And that can be obtained at "prestigious" universities. That doesn't mean that the individual is good in his or her discipline. Doesn't mean their theories or body of work are correct. Doesn't mean that they provide accurate and value added to society. It only means they were able to obtain degrees.


 

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Maybe he's right, [maybe he's wrong.


This is the main issue in a nutshell. What gives "this expert" more credibility than that one? All of the experts are well educated and articulate. Is it about whom they represent?....That goes to agenda.

All of the experts agree that we've found vaccines for polio.....Let's use that as a standard


People are going to look at things differently. Fauci has spent decades advising several Presidents in our government. That alone doesn't make him any better than Ayyadurai, but until Ayyadurai reaches that point of authority, his words mean much less to me. In a crisis, I tend to listen to the people responsible for managing the crisis. Can they be wrong? Sure. May they error in ways they otherwise shouldn't have? Possibly. But somebody has to be in charge, officially. Everyone has an opinion, opinions are like assh0les right? The opinions of the people in an official capacity to lead us through this matters more, to me.

 

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Getting degrees and even advanced degrees is not difficult. The right mindset and work will get you there. Someone can be academically gifted and able to obtain a degree, a masters degree, or even a doctorate. And that can be obtained at "prestigious" universities. That doesn't mean that the individual is good in his or her discipline. Doesn't mean their theories or body of work are correct. Doesn't mean that they provide accurate and value added to society. It only means they were able to obtain degrees.



And does this "theory" of yours apply to all individuals with advanced degrees?...Or just the ones with "bodies of work" that fit your viewpoints and beliefs?

Please

 

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but until Ayyadurai reaches that point of authority, his words mean much less to me.


Fair enough and a good example of agree/belief

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 04:07 PM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


That guy is a partisan hack who spreads more conspiracy theories than Gina. He even lied claiming to have invented email.



A "Partisan Hack" who just happens to be a graduate of M.I.T. (PHD) and there seems to be a legitimate argument that he did indeed have a lot to do with E-Mail becoming what it is.

Seems a "Partisan Hack" is anyone who veers off the course the mainstream media has paved...


You seem to give him credibility because he is supporting Trump and attacking Obama. It is clear that he developed his ideas to fit that agenda. Fauci is developing his plan without any partisan intent. If Ayyadurai is correct, because he is so obviously partisan, it is hard to take him seriously. It is kind of like the scientific hacks the tobacco industry hire to tell us that smoking is good for you.

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 04:34 PM
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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


That guy is a partisan hack who spreads more conspiracy theories than Gina. He even lied claiming to have invented email.



A "Partisan Hack" who just happens to be a graduate of M.I.T. (PHD) and there seems to be a legitimate argument that he did indeed have a lot to do with E-Mail becoming what it is.

Seems a "Partisan Hack" is anyone who veers off the course the mainstream media has paved...


So to the point at hand...more vitamins A, C and D and I'm good to go? This is no doubt a pretty smart guy but I didn't get what exactly his answer is to the present virus. He knocks Fauci and aside from some vitamin supplements/better diet, says isolation is more detrimental than beneficial, get some sun, offers no legitimate answers to some important questions that Miss Cleavage never asked.

 

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I pay close attention when Fauci talks..


Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD on Mr Fauci
https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


That guy is a partisan hack who spreads more conspiracy theories than Gina. He even lied claiming to have invented email.



A "Partisan Hack" who just happens to be a graduate of M.I.T. (PHD) and there seems to be a legitimate argument that he did indeed have a lot to do with E-Mail becoming what it is.

Seems a "Partisan Hack" is anyone who veers off the course the mainstream media has paved...


You seem to give him credibility because he is supporting Trump and attacking Obama.


No. I listened to what he had to say and found an opinion different from the media's constant selling of fear to be refreshing and interesting. And once again, I have no problem with President Obama, a precise, intelligent and articulate man for whom I have a lot of respect.

 

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  posted on 4/18/2020 at 04:37 PM
South Dakota is not safe to reduce their restrictions till June 22 and even then it will be gradual if good sense prevails.

Https://covid19.healthdata.org

 

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vitamin supplements/better diet, says isolation is more detrimental than beneficial, get some sun,


I would agree, but then again I probably know as much as the person who reads off a teleprompter weeknights @ 5 & 6.

 

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Update: South Dakota's Governor Refused To Shutdown, The State Now Faces One Of The Nations Largest Coronavirus Outbreaks......

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0Okd0Z5o?s=a99&pd=05JiOiuk

[Edited on 5/12/2020 by crazyjoe]

 

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  posted on 5/12/2020 at 09:18 AM
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Update: South Dakota's Governor Refused To Shutdown, The State Now Faces One Of The Nations Largest Coronavirus Outbreaks......

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0Okd0Z5o?s=a99&pd=05JiOiuk

[Edited on 5/12/2020 by crazyjoe]


Your article is 28 days old and her strategy worked fine if you go look up that her state still has among the lowest numbers anywhere in the country.

 
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