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  posted on 2/13/2020 at 07:46 AM
New prog from one of the originals - Rick Wakeman...

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rick-wakeman-the-red-planet/

 

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  posted on 2/13/2020 at 04:48 PM
Starcastle was also a great prog band - from central Illinois no less. Their first 2 albums were excellent...
 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 09:47 AM
I have read Qeensryche described as Prog metal especially their "Operation Mindcrime" albums. Definately not your typical 80's hair metal bands.

 

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  posted on 2/15/2020 at 03:14 AM
From an interview with Ian Anderson...

"Progressive rock is a purely British phenomenon. And these days all of us and include the likes of ELP here, know that there was a sense of fun about it. Privately, we all saw the silly side, we were like John Cleese in a bowler hat lampooning the bureaucrats, while revelling in it."

"Any spoof done well enough enhances the perpetrators and intended victims, think of Spinal Tap and the heavy metal genre. But, surely if it's done too well then it becomes indistinguishable from the real thing?"

How does Anderson react to the fact that Thick As A Brick is frequently cited as the ultimate prog rock album?

" Job done, I'd say. We set out to make the mother of all concept records, as I stated earlier, and if that's the way people see the album after all these years, then we achieved the ambition. It is hard sometimes to differentiate what's serious and what's a send-up. But for me, that's the beauty of prog rock. it must have both."

 

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  posted on 2/15/2020 at 10:14 AM
John Wetton once said that much of the inspiration for what is known as "Prog" was rooted in English church music. If you think of all the organ, and the Catholic imagery (spells, darkness, light etc.) it makes sense. Upon being passed by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Chris Squire said that Yes' music had nothing to do with Rock and Roll.

 

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  posted on 2/15/2020 at 11:43 AM
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John Wetton once said that much of the inspiration for what is known as "Prog" was rooted in English church music.
Case in point...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73LmEiqXhOc

 

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  posted on 2/15/2020 at 12:12 PM
Very churchlike. Choirboys on acid. Prog is basically classical jazz. Chris Squier said in his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame speech that Yes had nothing to do with rock.
 

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  posted on 2/17/2020 at 02:56 PM
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Very churchlike. Choirboys on acid. Prog is basically classical jazz. Chris Squier said in his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame speech that Yes had nothing to do with rock.


That's interesting.... when I was young I had a friend who was only into Pink Floyd, Rush, King Crimson, Atomic Rooster, Yes and Genesis..... I'd say to him, why don't you play some real rock!

.... now I love all those bands!

 

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  posted on 2/17/2020 at 11:28 PM
I like the consideration of how English church music shaped British prog. You can hear it in early Genesis, Yes, Procol Harum.

You can certainly NOT hear it in Rush. There are waves of prog, and Rush is definitely second wave. I mean that as no insult whatsoever, but it is telling that the first wave had that big Mellotron & organ sound, while the slightly later bands from North America did not, and King Crimson got rid of that element too.

 

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  posted on 2/17/2020 at 11:47 PM
"Waves of prog?" Do you realize how weird this conversation would sound to all but a very few people? We might as well be speaking Westron in Middle Earth.
 

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  posted on 2/18/2020 at 12:08 AM
Hey, it’s not terminology that I invented. People discuss The Who as part of the second wave of the British Invasion or Iron Maiden as part of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, and it makes sense.

If you follow prog rock classification, Marillion are (were) considered “neo prog” rather than prog as they imitated Genesis rather than actually progressing. The band IQ gets put in the same category.

 

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  posted on 2/18/2020 at 01:02 AM
Beware the Waves Of Prog and the perils that they bring.

 

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