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  posted on 2/6/2020 at 09:53 PM
Great thread .. enjoying everyone's take. It forced me to break out the following:

Kings X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska ( i'm pretty sure this record is perfect )
Yes - Close to the Edge ( I know for a fact this record is perfect )

Now, prog rock? i always assumed if you loved Robert Fripp, you were a fan of prog rock...
( WTF is Dino talking about? )

 

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  posted on 2/6/2020 at 10:57 PM
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Great thread .. enjoying everyone's take. It forced me to break out the following:

Kings X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska ( i'm pretty sure this record is perfect )
Yes - Close to the Edge ( I know for a fact this record is perfect )

Now, prog rock? i always assumed if you loved Robert Fripp, you were a fan of prog rock...
( WTF is Dino talking about? )


Kings X is a good example of blurred lines between genres. Definitely on the heavy side. Awesome album either way.

Bands like Dream Theater? Absolutely Prog but absolutely metal. There are many of those types of bands that combine elements of various genres.

Yes - Drama is almost their "Heavy" peak and I love that album. Same goes for Relayer which I like as it is darker and rarely got played so it always sounded fresher to me.

Crossover from Prog to Pop
Alan Parsons Project - I love Tales Of Mystery And Imagination but I can't stand the later "radio friendly" stuff.

 

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  posted on 2/7/2020 at 07:37 PM
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Finally! A nod to Kansas.


Little Yes On the Prairie

I love Kansas - saw them open for Hot Tuna in 1974, before they broke thru. performing in ripped jeans and tshirts. Phenomenal.



I'm listening to the first Kansas album today.... excellent prog!!!

Anybody agree with me on the Bowie "Berlin Trilogy" albums?

 

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  posted on 2/7/2020 at 08:27 PM
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Finally! A nod to Kansas.
Little Yes On the Prairie

I love Kansas - saw them open for Hot Tuna in 1974, before they broke thru. performing in ripped jeans and tshirts. Phenomenal.
I'm listening to the first Kansas album today.... excellent prog!!!

Anybody agree with me on the Bowie "Berlin Trilogy" albums?
Saw them in the Capital Theater, Passaic, NJ a few weeks after Leftoverture was released. They tore that place to shreds - the crowd was going wild all the way to the last row. To this day, I've never seen a band play so tight. One of the best shows of my life!

 

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  posted on 2/8/2020 at 02:26 AM
A more modern prog classic...

Queensryche Operation: Mindcrime

 

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  posted on 2/8/2020 at 03:03 AM
This would be boss, Cruise To the Edge, March 2020



https://cruisetotheedge.com/the-bands/

mentioned this prog cruise to my brother, he texted back:

Close to the edge
Down in the water
Now we're forgotten
In Davy Jones locker

 

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  posted on 2/8/2020 at 03:12 AM
Wow just saw Gong in that cruise line up! I love Gong.
 

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  posted on 2/8/2020 at 06:42 PM
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This would be boss, Cruise To the Edge, March 2020



https://cruisetotheedge.com/the-bands/

mentioned this prog cruise to my brother, he texted back:

Close to the edge
Down in the water
Now we're forgotten
In Davy Jones locker



Looks like a fun cruise!!!

 

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  posted on 2/8/2020 at 10:37 PM
Could the Moody Blues have prog leanings - wasn’t Days of Future Passed sort of, in retrospect, a prog sort-of opus recording - A Question of Balance, On The Threshold of a Dream.....I know the later ones, To Our Children’s Children’s Children, up to Seventh Sojourn

Neo-classical, quasi-space music, pseudo-new age....Their music invites labels galore, yet one of their big ones is I’m Just A Singer In A Rock n Roll Band

 

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  posted on 2/9/2020 at 12:33 AM
^ For sure, Moodys. I would throw it in protoprog, the weird stuff that was brewing before anyone knew what prog was.

Really strange looking into what led to prog, where the rift happened - am thinking Iron Butterfly, Electric Prunes, the fringe music.

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  posted on 2/9/2020 at 11:12 AM
Yes, & those mentions bring to mind the Beau Brummels, Amboy Dukes, The Main Ingredient....those type of bands which prog really grew off of/evolved/morphed into

Very cool looking cruise alight, gosh a 3 hour tour it is not tho w/that many bands, yow come one come all

 

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  posted on 2/9/2020 at 01:54 PM
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What is Prog Rock to you all?


When I was younger, the answer would have been "music you get made fun of for listening to."

 

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  posted on 2/9/2020 at 02:07 PM
I once spent a good month of used-CD bin searching and listening to all the Van der Graaf Generator I could find.

I'm by no means the biggest metal freak, but Opeth is absolutely amazing.

Folks have mentioned Steven Wilson, that's how I found my way to Opeth. The Pineapple Thief, too.

Porcupine Tree is gone forever, but the Live At Tilburg DVD is in my top three live shows to watch, ever.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2020 at 07:34 PM
https://progreport.com/top-30-prog-albums/

Top 30 prog albums 2000-2019 according to the Prog Report

30. Symphony X – V: The New Mythology Suite (2000)
29. The Mars Volta – De-Loused in the Comatorium (2003)
28. Opeth – Ghost Reveries (2005)
27. IQ – Dark Matter (2004)
26. The Pineapple Theif – Dissolution (2018)
25. Anathema – We’re Here Because We’re Here (2010)
24. Ayreon – The Human Equation (2004)
23. The Dear Hunter – Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise (2015)
22. Pain of Salvation – Remedy Lane (2002)
21. Dream Theater – Octavarium (2005)
20. Flying Colors – Second Nature (2014)
19. The Flower Kings – Unfold the Future (2002)
18. Riverside – Shrine of New Generation Slaves (2013)
17. Frost* – Milliontown (2006)
16. Porcupine Tree – Fear of a Blank Planet (2007)
15. Big Big Train – English Electric Pt.2 (2013)
14. Rush – Clockwork Angels (2012)
13. Tool – Lateralus (2001)
12. Transatlantic – Bridge Across Forever (2001)
11. Devin Townsend – Empath (2019)
10. Porcupine Tree – In Absentia (2002)
9. Spock’s Beard – Snow (2002)
8. Marillion – Marbles (2004)
7. Haken – The Mountain (2013)
6. Opeth – Blackwater Park (2001)
5. Neal Morse Band – The Similitude of a Dream (2016)
4. Steven Wilson – The Raven That Refused To Sing (2013)
3. Dream Theater – Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (2002)
2. Steven Wilson – Hand.Cannot.Erase. (2015)
1. Transatlantic – The Whirlwind (2009)


 

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  posted on 2/9/2020 at 08:27 PM
What about Dixie Dregs, was that Southern Prog?
 

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I guess there is crossover but I consider at least half of that Top 20 to be Metal.

Dream Theater's Six Degrees is a great album. A freaking musical workout for sure. Opening song The Glass Prison is almost 14 minutes long with enough notes to fill a thousand albums. But it is 100% Heavy Metal. Real good heavy metal but undeniable Metal.

I have seen them many times and they hold the record for the longest show that I have seen any band do. Just under 5 hours and not a single cover in the mix. The last encore of the night was Change Of Seasons and was just shy of 37 minutes.

The Glass Prison - Starting at about 9:30 - they just go off the charts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h81PggfE8I

 

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I guess there is crossover but I consider at least half of that Top 20 to be Metal.

Dream Theater's Six Degrees is a great album. A freaking musical workout for sure. Opening song The Glass Prison is almost 14 minutes long with enough notes to fill a thousand albums. But it is 100% Heavy Metal. Real good heavy metal but undeniable Metal.

I have seen them many times and they hold the record for the longest show that I have seen any band do. Just under 5 hours and not a single cover in the mix. The last encore of the night was Change Of Seasons and was just shy of 37 minutes.

The Glass Prison - Starting at about 9:30 - they just go off the charts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h81PggfE8I





Seems like a lot of crossover with metal now in prog.... I've been surprised at all the metal drummers praising Neil Peart as a huge influence in their playing.

I have some early Dream Theater and really enjoy them.... their early drummer Mike Portnoy was a friend of Neil's.

I'm looking forward to checking out his new release Sons Of Apollo MMXX..... quite a band with Billy Sheehan and Derek Sherinian.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2020 at 08:10 AM
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I guess there is crossover but I consider at least half of that Top 20 to be Metal.


Well, there are 34,183 sub-genres of metal now, progressive metal is indeed one of them.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2020 at 08:39 AM
I'd accept the Moody Blues as "prog". What about Procol Harum? If Kansas is "prog" - what about Styx? I always found Styx to be a cheesey, top-40, poor man's version of Yes. Rick Wakeman's son - who filled in for his dad with Yes (briefly) cited Styx as an influence.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2020 at 12:38 PM
I would classify Styx as "Schwog".
 

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  posted on 2/10/2020 at 06:40 PM
The term does get loose.

Did Styx have songs with long instrumental passages and classical flourishes that went far outside of blues rock cliches? Yeah, but at the time, they seemed like tame versions of what someone like Yes had done. As time went on, of course, they got very mainstream, so noone called them progressive.

I'm told early Journey (pre-Steve Perry) had more of a Santana / fusion sound. I dig Boston's "Foreplay" intro, which is like prog lite.


I think that terms like psychedelia and fusion had some overlap with progressive rock.

Someone mentioned Bowie's late 1970s stuff - those albums had Fripp and then Belew on them and focused on ambient sounds rather than virtuosity. I think they can be called progressive even if they don't sound like Yes. They can be seen as the precursor to what Radiohead does. They were wildly experimental

 

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  posted on 2/10/2020 at 08:44 PM
Uriah Heep? They at least had Roger Dean cover art. Let's face it, Lawrence Welk would be prog if he had Roger Dean cover art.
 

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  posted on 2/11/2020 at 09:10 AM
Listened to Camel slot way back when

 

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  posted on 2/12/2020 at 10:40 AM
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The term does get loose.

Did Styx have songs with long instrumental passages and classical flourishes that went far outside of blues rock cliches? Yeah, but at the time, they seemed like tame versions of what someone like Yes had done. As time went on, of course, they got very mainstream, so noone called them progressive.

I'm told early Journey (pre-Steve Perry) had more of a Santana / fusion sound. I dig Boston's "Foreplay" intro, which is like prog lite.


I think that terms like psychedelia and fusion had some overlap with progressive rock.

Someone mentioned Bowie's late 1970s stuff - those albums had Fripp and then Belew on them and focused on ambient sounds rather than virtuosity. I think they can be called progressive even if they don't sound like Yes. They can be seen as
the precursor to what Radiohead does. They were wildly experimental


Good points.... I concour, the term does get loose.

Folks might disagree, but I have felt on some occasions that Govt Mule can get a little progy.

 

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