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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 08:55 PM
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So questions about racism leads to you bringing up abortion? Nice try.


Racism, by today's definition. At the time the country was divided on this issue, similar to today's polarizing attempts at discussing abortion.


The question was referring to the time period in which slavery and the capture and return of freed slaves was the LAW in some states (the skirt you still hide behind today). You dodged it as usual with a “yeah what about”.
Typical snowflake

 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 08:59 PM
I feel some unjust laws are worth breaking today in some states, so I break them as I would have in the 1860s and Reconstruction periods. As for BIIIIIGV you may feel the same way about breaking state laws today, but please stay away from any Planned Parenthood facilities

[Edited on 1/1/2020 by lukester420]

 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 09:42 PM
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Then content yourself with stating your views and spare us the hemhaw. You are against abortion, fine. You feel that slavery was justifiable in its time and place, fine.


I am NOT against abortion, merely raising the point that time plays havoc with narratives....



 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 09:53 PM
.... You still dodged the question. No abortion, slavery. Do you condone it? Do you think “time playing havoc with narratives” excuses it’s practice. Why is it you always try to use rhetoric to get around denouncing slavery and racism. None of your BS “today’s definition” that you make up to try and dance around the point or as you would put it the skirt to hide behind, would you fight to preserve an economy based on slavery in any time period?

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 10:43 PM
I am actually digging this line of inquiry. The trouble with using charges of presentism is it challenges you to maintain total objectivity on all history, some aspects of which it can be impossible to avoid presentism, depending on your individual perspective.

For example, the Jewish Holocaust - I am quite guilty of presentism when thinking about Nazi Germany. I am totally unable to relate to the position of the common everyday Nazi who may well have been blissfully ignorant and certain the Jews were going to comfy work camps.

 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 11:54 PM
Can't read the WAPO without a subscription. Other article I've seen before and have a question about what came up in that article.
Since you've read it, does she believe that the War on Drugs was a "strategy" against Negroes?

 

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  posted on 1/1/2020 at 12:11 AM
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.... You still dodged the question. No abortion, slavery. Do you condone it? Do you think “time playing havoc with narratives” excuses it’s practice. Why is it you always try to use rhetoric to get around denouncing slavery and racism. None of your BS “today’s definition” that you make up to try and dance around the point or as you would put it the skirt to hide behind, would you fight to preserve an economy based on slavery in any time period?


I hereby denounce slavery. It was and remains forever wrong.

Do you think abortion is OK?

 

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  posted on 1/1/2020 at 12:17 AM
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.... You still dodged the question. No abortion, slavery. Do you condone it? Do you think “time playing havoc with narratives” excuses it’s practice. Why is it you always try to use rhetoric to get around denouncing slavery and racism. None of your BS “today’s definition” that you make up to try and dance around the point or as you would put it the skirt to hide behind, would you fight to preserve an economy based on slavery in any time period?


I hereby denounce slavery. It was and remains forever wrong.

Do you think abortion is OK?


My family thought it was wrong too. My people had been enslaved for over a millennia and a half from the Romans on down through the English.

 

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  posted on 1/1/2020 at 12:35 PM
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.... You still dodged the question. No abortion, slavery. Do you condone it? Do you think “time playing havoc with narratives” excuses it’s practice. Why is it you always try to use rhetoric to get around denouncing slavery and racism. None of your BS “today’s definition” that you make up to try and dance around the point or as you would put it the skirt to hide behind, would you fight to preserve an economy based on slavery in any time period?


I hereby denounce slavery. It was and remains forever wrong.

Do you think abortion is OK?


Yes, yes I do. As a person without female reproductive organs, I have no dog in the fight, but I can see the human decency in letting a woman have the right to decide without being harassed by hordes of nosey bible thumpers outside a medical facility. There are grey areas sure, but I have no fundamental issue whatsoever with abortion.

See that? I answered a simple question without a deflection. Try it some time.

But now that I’ve answered the question, why do fetuses(not children) need this gold standard of protection but you don’t care about kids (actual children) growing up in a culture where they have to have active shooter drills as part of the curriculum?

Lemme guess, it has nothing to do with the guns and everything with the decaying moral fabric of America right?

I’ll do ya one better with another question, if gun violence in school is a result of moral decay as you would like to think, why is it ok to have a morally bankrupt man in the most powerful office in the free world who has most likely sponsored hundreds of abortions for his own personal benefit.

 

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  posted on 1/1/2020 at 12:42 PM
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.... You still dodged the question. No abortion, slavery. Do you condone it? Do you think “time playing havoc with narratives” excuses it’s practice. Why is it you always try to use rhetoric to get around denouncing slavery and racism. None of your BS “today’s definition” that you make up to try and dance around the point or as you would put it the skirt to hide behind, would you fight to preserve an economy based on slavery in any time period?


I hereby denounce slavery. It was and remains forever wrong.

Do you think abortion is OK?


My family thought it was wrong too. My people had been enslaved for over a millennia and a half from the Romans on down through the English.


Time has ways of playing havoc with narratives

 

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  posted on 1/1/2020 at 03:41 PM
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My people had been enslaved for over a millennia and a half from the Romans on down through the English.


A spell of Greco Roman civilizing was a good thing too, or they would still be uneducated ignorant superstitious savages in blue paint slaughtering each other and sailing around killing and marauding . . . oh wait, they still are. Bloody barbarians. At least they gave up the blue paint. Baby steps, baby steps.


 

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  posted on 1/1/2020 at 05:22 PM
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My people had been enslaved for over a millennia and a half from the Romans on down through the English.


A spell of Greco Roman civilizing was a good thing too, or they would still be uneducated ignorant superstitious savages in blue paint slaughtering each other and sailing around killing and marauding . . . oh wait, they still are. Bloody barbarians. At least they gave up the blue paint. Baby steps, baby steps.




Was going to post that I don't remember any Picts in the family tree, then remembered my maternal ancestors were from Scotland.

 

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  posted on 1/1/2020 at 05:23 PM
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my maternal ancestors were from Scotland.


That would explain it.

 

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  posted on 1/1/2020 at 09:30 PM
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my maternal ancestors were from Scotland.


That would explain it.


Explain WHAT? Oh yeah, her maternal ancestors were German, and Prussian. Paternal was Scottish back as far as records were kept.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2020 at 05:51 PM
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"White rage".....What a joke


Not exactly an in depth review. What caused you to dismiss the book ? I found it remarkably succinct, and a solid intro to much post Civil War history of which I was ignorant. Prof Anderson actually concurs with your views on Lincoln, and then some, as well as distributing the causes of black oppression more evenly across North and South than I have read elsewhere. Downside is there were some speculative generalizations that she needed to explain better, or perhaps not have brought up at all - but no more than in any history book, and not enough to sink a pretty clear and timely review of some buried history. Certainly deserves a place on the shelf alongside other well regarded works on these subjects.



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  posted on 1/4/2020 at 07:51 PM
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Explain WHAT?


It explains why a Scotsman would demand an explanation of why being Scottish explains it.

I understand these things, ton of Scottish here too.

 

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  posted on 1/5/2020 at 08:13 AM
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What caused you to dismiss the book ?


Take a wild guess.

 

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  posted on 1/5/2020 at 01:35 PM
I know my US history, and gotta say there is material in White Rage that blew me away. Yes I knew about the Black Codes and Jim Crow, but really no idea the extent. During Reconstruction and into the mid 20th century - the retaliation in the South that virtually continued slavery and the open hostility to blacks in the north. All the Emancipation did was change the word "slavery" - things didn't improve much until the 1960s. Essential reading on the subject.



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"White rage".....What a joke


What caused you to dismiss the book ?


Take a wild guess.






Because I think Professor Anderson is dumber than a box of rocks even though I have never read a word she wrote and have zero interest in this essential and fascinating, albeit disturbing, buried chapter of American history?

 

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  posted on 1/15/2020 at 03:33 PM
I finally got around to reading the short article on "Rageaholism" and think we have a few of those in here.
I need to get my daughter to suggest some of her colleagues read some of the threads in here and come up with what they think about the posters.

 

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  posted on 1/15/2020 at 07:56 PM
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I finally got around to reading the short article on "Rageaholism" and think we have a few of those in here.
I need to get my daughter to suggest some of her colleagues read some of the threads in here and come up with what they think about the posters.


They'll need to get permission from the dean of the psychoanalytical department (Skydog32103) before they embark upon such an endeavor.

 

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I finally got around to reading the short article on "Rageaholism" and think we have a few of those in here.
I need to get my daughter to suggest some of her colleagues read some of the threads in here and come up with what they think about the posters.


They'll need to get permission from the dean of the psychoanalytical department (Skydog32103) before they embark upon such an endeavor.


What he don't know won't hurt him.

 

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  posted on 1/15/2020 at 09:20 PM
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They'll need to get permission from the dean of the psychoanalytical department (Skydog32103) before they embark upon such an endeavor.


I'm flattered you've been thinking about me, jack*ss.

 

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They'll need to get permission from the dean of the psychoanalytical department (Skydog32103) before they embark upon such an endeavor.


I'm flattered you've been thinking about me, jack*ss.


Remember the thread: "Please Read: Personal Attacks will Result In A Ban"?

Contain your temper before something sad happens.

 

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  posted on 1/15/2020 at 09:46 PM
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Remember the thread: "Please Read: Personal Attacks will Result In A Ban"?

Contain your temper before something sad happens.


Some random poster insulted me out of nowhere, so he was asking for it as far as I'm concerned. If that gets me banned, so be it. His post is right there in front of our eyes, so I don't see how my post is shocking.

 
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