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  posted on 1/6/2020 at 04:07 PM
Jack seemingly got ignored during the 2009 Beacon Run... he should definitely be part of this. I do not see any argument that his presence would not make this thing better.

As far as Gregg's vocals, Lamar Williams Jr. had done a great job with those songs while he was in Les Brers... plus he has the family connection. Much better voice for the songs than Devon Allman, in my opinion.

 

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  posted on 1/6/2020 at 05:26 PM
A couple random thoughts/observations:

1. On the same note as Al: how can anyone who loves good music and the Allman Brothers family not be happy (or be so negative) about this happening. I personally am beyond excited and still cannot believe it's happening. Thanks to those putting it together.

2. Jackie P should definitely be invited, and I'd bet he would love to be there

3. We all love Dickey's playing, but people please stop trying to ruin a good vibe and news with something that hasn't happened in 20 years (Dickey playing with the band)..these threads can look like a college football talkshow at times...a bunch of what ifs...

4. This lineup can play whatever they want....Bag End>Egypt>Instrumental Illness>True Gravity>Pegasus and I will be happy....they would probably be thrilled themselves. In fact..if they did, I would go on to say that at that particular moment in time on March 10th... it would be the best live music being played in the world . Note: see the last March Beacon (2 shows) run when Gregg was sick, the shows were still AMAZING.

5. Just typing and thinking about this has me so excited for March 10th!!...so pumped. See yall there.




 

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  posted on 1/6/2020 at 07:10 PM
I don't know if I'll make it because of travel plans, but I think everybody sounds up for it musically and personally and that makes it meaningful. Even if it were only a tribute to this lineup, they've earned that kind of tribute. The younger guys were all in the band for 15-20 years, and the last lineup stayed together for 13 years. It accomplished a lot, and the younger guys in particular did a lot to try to maintain the band's legacy when they could've just let it ride and cashed some checks. Things clearly got complicated between some of them at the end but there was a respect for the music and the vision that lasted. I was going to say something longer but the bottom line is that Derek and Oteil and Warren (and probably Marc if he's ever been asked) have never been anything but incredibly respectful of what the original band accomplished. That includes Dickey's role during his 30 years in the band. I am sure they have plenty of tales they could tell, but try finding one in print.

The Beacon is THE Allmans venue and we all know it, but it's booked up in March. Some of the players don't want to take time out from the summer touring season to do more rehearsals and a Beacon run with six or eight or whatever shows, and a single show at the Beacon might not be economically viable — and it'd also shut out a lot of fans compared to MSG. It would be wonderful if some past ABB members were there because they also deserve acknowledgment, but I guess they want a more focused performance, and maybe once you start adding other players it's hard to draw a line. Reese Wynans is a cool choice.

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Duane Trucks was asked because Butch was his uncle.

You mean he was asked because Butch was his uncle and an early drum teacher for him, and because he's a longtime professional musician who's played with everyone in the ABB. I was at the show Butch missed in 2014, and Duane filled in. Also: to be honest, who else would they ask? I guess Matt Abts, who could definitely do it, but he's not literally family.

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It was pointed out to me that the David Spero quote in the Rolling Stone article is likely one from 2014, not about the reunion.

I am sure it's from 2020. It would be out of context to a bizarre degree, and as far as I know, he was not invited to the 2014 shows anyway. He was invited to the 2009 Beacon shows.

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  posted on 1/6/2020 at 08:20 PM
Is there a pre sale password or are those days over ?

 

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  posted on 1/6/2020 at 10:07 PM
Marley. I wasn't being critical of any musicians ability and certainly not Duane Trucks.

I was trying to find the link between the deceased last lineup member and who was chosen to fill in.

Duane Trucks was likely chosen because he is Butch's nephew. Reese was selected to take Gregg's place on organ because Reese was the organ/keyboard player who was playing in Duane Allman's new band when they were playing as an unnamed band at Second Coming shows. They eventually billed themselves as The Second Coming at a few Florida shows with Duane and Dickey on lead guitars, Butch and Jaimoe on drums, Berry on bass and Reese on keys. Of course Dickey, Berry and Reese were members of The Second Coming before Duane selected Berry to be in his new band that began as a trio with Duane, Berry and Jaimoe.

Dickey and Berry use to claim they persuaded Duane to call his brother to replace Reese because Dickey felt with Duane, Dickey and Berry trading off on the lead vocals, none of them could sing as well as the band could play.

Then if you want to connect the rest of the dots to the original band, Derek is Duane, Warren is Dickey and Otiel is Berry. Chuck was asked to join as a special guest because his piano is so prominent in the Chuck/Lamar version of the band. That version was handed stardom by the original band because Fillmore East went gold before Duane died and Eat A Peach went platinum just after Duane died and the band had become a headliner coast to coast. Then Chuck joined and Brothers and Sisters came out and went to number one on the Billboard top 200 album chart for five weeks and sold over four million copies. The ABB was selling out huge coliseums and was declared the number one band in America by Billboard, Circus and Playboy. So Chuck's piano is crucial to that era especially on Jessica. The ABB was NEVER as commercially successful as they were in 1973 and 4. They could fill a huge Coliseum anywhere in the United States.

Replacing Gregg's vocals is the big scramble to me. I guess Warren will have to sing for Gregg and sing Blue Sky too. Unless Chuck sings Blue Sky. In 1975 they added Long Time Gone from Dickey's solo album to the live show but Chuck sang lead on the first have of it and it sounded good.

I would imagine they will do a song or two off Hitting The Note but the rest will be heavy on songs by the original lineup and Brothers and Sisters. Dreams, Whjpping Post, Not My Cross To Bear, Black Harted Woman, Revival, Don't Keep Me Wondering, Midnight Rider, Liz Reed, Statesboro Blues, You Don't Love Me, Stormy Monday, Hot Lana, Ain't Waisting Time No More, Melissa, One Way Out, Trouble No More, Standback (Berry wrote the music and planned to call it The Road To Calico until Gregg got it, added words and made some changes), Blue Sky, Little Martha, Waisted Words, Ramblin' Man ( I bet so this time), Southbound, Jessica, Good Clean Fun, True Gravity, End of the Line, No one to Run With.....I can see them wanting to play all those. Its going to be a four hour show.

As to Dickey. If he wanted to walk out on the stage and wave or even sing something, it would bring the house down. Dickey contributed more to the Allman Brothers than any man on that stage including Jaimoe. Dickey deserves to be honored and have a tribute show played for him like they did for Gregg and Lynyrd Skynyrd. But I'm afraid his playing days are behind him. Maybe he can get some of his chops back but at 76 and his health setbacks it would take some time. Everyone knows without Dickey the band wouldn't be anything close to what it is. Dickey is a GIANT in ABB history. If Gregg is the Mick Jagger then Dickey was the Keith Richards. Dickey is the wealthiest Brother. 40 million. And he deserves every penny of it.

Also this is The Brothers not the Allman Brothers like the Dead wasn't the Grateful Dead. Cant have it called the Allman Brothers without Gregg and his great singing voice.

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 07:57 AM
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They should call the VIP Package the Whippin Post because that's exactly what it's gonna feel like to spend the money to be up close.


Ha!!! Good one.....Aint that the truth. You cant get up close anymore without buying these astronomical priced VIP packages. As long as people keep paying for them the beast will continue to be fed and grow. My wallet has been shut for quite some time. Love music and concerts but tix prices are ridiculous.

Lots of good posts so far and I can see all points of view with respect. I an sure they will sell tix's, but that's a pretty big building to fill. I don't know if one should expect a sellout or not. Maybe if Gregg and Butch were still alive and they were doing a one off 50th anniversary show, I could see a full house. No matter what, it will be a great night of songs with great musicianship no doubt.


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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 09:37 AM
You'd think they could have thrown the fans a bone for the pre-sale...
 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 09:45 AM
All who are planning to be there are in for a tremendous show
I love the ABB

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:00 AM
Tickets go on sale 1/10 but the promised pre-sale info is crickets.

I don't see them filling 1/3 of MSG for Jaimoe, Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Oteil Burbridge, Marc Quinones, Duane Trucks & Reese Wynans. Chuck Leavell is billed only as a special guest. No "and more" teasers.


 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:02 AM
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Tickets go on sale 1/10 but the promised pre-sale info is crickets.

I don't see them filling 1/3 of MSG for Jaimoe, Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Oteil Burbridge, Marc Quinones, Duane Trucks & Reese Wynans. Chuck Leavell is billed only as a special guest. No "and more" teasers.




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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:03 AM
2,000+ people in front of me in the queue. WTF

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:06 AM
Joe, same here. PUKE

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:08 AM
Yep...2,000+
 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:09 AM
Same here and it is moving slowly. I have had this before and it has moved a lot quicker.
 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:10 AM
same here
2000+
the line is moving though

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:10 AM
the little walking purple guy isn't even half way across the bar

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:11 AM
If I knew it would be this bad I would've slept outside Tower Records last night to make sure I was first on line...LOL...those were the days.
 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:12 AM
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the little walking purple guy isn't even half way across the bar


i'm almost half way there

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:13 AM
Once you get in you'll have the fun of constantly being told someone else beat you to the tickets you try to put in your cart.
 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:15 AM
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Once you get in you'll have the fun of constantly being told someone else beat you to the tickets you try to put in your cart.

yeah i hate that

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:15 AM
Past half-way...must be out of tix..
 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:17 AM
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Tickets go on sale 1/10 but the promised pre-sale info is crickets.

I don't see them filling 1/3 of MSG for Jaimoe, Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Oteil Burbridge, Marc Quinones, Duane Trucks & Reese Wynans. Chuck Leavell is billed only as a special guest. No "and more" teasers.




Not necessarily a bad thing - something to be said for being able to move around & not be squeezed into a seat where the person in front of you might be blocking your view, or the people around you possibly yapping nonstop or talking on their phones the whole time - just sayin
Agree it likely won’t sell out, but so what

 

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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:18 AM
So how does this experience fit with those of you thinking this would sell a 3rd of the arena. I can't believe so called Allman Brothers fans believe this show would not matter to people.
 

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Tickets go on sale 1/10 but the promised pre-sale info is crickets.

I don't see them filling 1/3 of MSG for Jaimoe, Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Oteil Burbridge, Marc Quinones, Duane Trucks & Reese Wynans. Chuck Leavell is billed only as a special guest. No "and more" teasers.




Not necessarily a bad thing - something to be said for being able to move around & not be squeezed into a seat where the person in front of you might be blocking your view, or the people around you possibly yapping nonstop or talking on their phones the whole time - just sayin
Agree it likely won’t sell out, but so what


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  posted on 1/7/2020 at 10:20 AM
Got 3 codes. WTF...
 
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