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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 01:34 PM
jszfunk. I bought that album in 1992 when it came out. "Ii you don't hear what you wanna hear then that's tuff". That was a strange thing Dickey said at the beginning.

Yes Dickey was an excellent rhythm guitar player. He and Duane Allman really backed up each other so well in the beginning. And Berry Oakley would too. Butch said when Oakley did that he had to stay home and keep the time signature so it was a bit confining for him with Berry doing that so much.

When I first played Blue Sky from An Evening With, I thought Warren was going to play lead guitar but as you pointed out he switches ti slide.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 01:42 PM
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When the 1989 to 1997 lineup played Soulshine I just know Gregg and Dickey were aware they were playing a Warren Haynes song. Warren was in the back of their mind.

He was next to them onstage!
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But we also need to remember this is not really the Allman Brothers Band. They are not even calling it The Allman Brothers.

Nobody needs a reminder. We all understand this; like you said, they're not calling it the Allman Brothers to begin with. It would be a bad look if they were trying to deceive anyone, but they're not and really couldn't if they tried.

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Could this spark something else? A future "The Brothers" tour or one off gigs at festivals and such?
The Haynes Trucks band? Either way the music will live on for sure with the different family bands.

Life is long, but it doesn't look that way right now since the players are being emphatic that this is a one-time thing. Warren is always doing a bunch of things. Derek doesn't seem to want to do anything beyond Tedeschi Trucks, which was one reason he said he was leaving the ABB in 2014.

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I doubt this will turn into a similar road that the Dead took with Dead and Company. I just don't think there is anywhere near the same thirst, demand or following of the Allman Brothers. Haynes and Trucks can collaborate at anytime if they wanted to, can't see that happening other than sit ins etc. which has happened.


There are people who'd be glad to see that, but it's a smaller portion of a smaller fanbase. And the Dead have four of the core members of that band and Dead & Co. still has three. The only original ABB member onstage at this is going to be Jaimoe and that does mean that the band onstage will be less similar to the ABB of the 70's.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 01:52 PM
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I doubt this will turn into a similar road that the Dead took with Dead and Company. I just don't think there is anywhere near the same thirst, demand or following of the Allman Brothers. Haynes and Trucks can collaborate at anytime if they wanted to, can't see that happening other than sit ins etc. which has happened.


There are people who'd be glad to see that, but it's a smaller portion of a smaller fanbase. And the Dead have four of the core members of that band and Dead & Co. still has three. The only original ABB member onstage at this is going to be Jaimoe and that does mean that the band onstage will be less similar to the ABB of the 70's.


I'll tell ya I saw Dead and Company in Boulder last summer, they played two nights and sold out Folsom stadium both nights. Very impressive for that group--and by the way the show was absolutely stellar. Oteil, Chimenti and John Mayer really injected life into that group and the fans just keep on coming.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 03:01 PM
Ahhhh-so I bought a $99 dollar ticket upstairs during the presale on Tuesday. I checked TM today and saw section 114 which is on the side of the stage toward the rear for $99 and could not resist. Better to sit lower than upstairs. So if anyone wants to get in cheap (willing to take a loss on the ticket), drop me a message.
 

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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 03:29 PM
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.....and the bottom line is that Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes love the Allman Brothers music so much that they learned it to a depth that no one on this website ever did. They got recognized by Gregg Allman and Dickey Betts and Butch Trucks and Jaimoe as guitarists who should be in the Allman Brothers.

Thus, they are the right guys to lead a tribute to the Allman Brothers. Obviously.

The clear fact that they know that they are not THE Allman Brothers is broadcasted by the clear fact that they are not billing themselves as The Allman Brothers. People who can read English can see this.

We are left with the fact that an evening of tribute to the music of the Allman Brothers is being led by the exact right people who should lead an evening of tribute to the music of the Allman Brothers.



Well stated Jim. As someone else mentioned The Dead did pretty much the same thing name-wise after Jerry's passing, no?

If I can afford it I will go. And regarding the prices, I don't think they are all that bad. We have to consider that this is in New York and there are a lot of musicians that have to get paid, right? And I would assume their travel and accommodations need to be covered as well. That can't be cheap.

The thing about the prices that does get me though are the fees. I looked up a few tickets and one of them had fees of almost $60! For an Eticket. My God I live in Chicago and could see two or three shows for the "convenience" charges alone.

Oh well. Still might try to swing it.

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Hopefully you can make it Lee. There are cheap flight prices to NYC from Chicago. If fact, I am sitting at LaGuardia right now waiting for my flight to Chicago to catch Buddy Guy and Kingfish at Buddy Guyís Legends the next couple of nights.

Regarding this debate about who is an Allman Brother and who is not, it is much ado about nothing. I think the original band was probably the best version but I was a little too young to have seen them. My first show was 1979 at the Capitol, which I just viewed on YouTube the other day when I was at the gym. Pretty much saw every tour when they performed in NYC since then.

Warren and Derek were key members to me as was Chuck Levall. I am excited about the tribute and will attempt to upgrade my seat as the show approaches, So Lee if you make it and are looking for a cheap ticket, drop me a line.


Will let you know if I can swing it. Flights between O Hare and LaGuardia are cheap; only $176. Have fun at Legends. Both nights are sold out and have been for a while. I guess because of Kingfish.

Sorry for the interruption of the show discussion.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 04:09 PM
Going by Derek's quote of...

" I'm excited to get to play these songs with Jaimoe and the Brothers one last time to celebrate 50 years of this music."

I wouldn't expect any touring out of this, for those who were asking.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 06:24 PM
I think you are right as far as Derek is concerned. Maybe Warren and Jack but probably not likely.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 08:59 PM
Just booked my flights. This will be sweet. Did a lot of Beacon shows in 06,07,10(United Palace). 11,12 13 and 14 but never been to MSG. I don't care for big venues but hoping this will prove me wrong. Thinking about the vibe before the show. Probably not quite like the Beacon where a majority of folks were hard corp. Still a packed house will generate quite a buzz. Hopefully a place like the Amsterdam Ale House close by.
 

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  posted on 1/9/2020 at 09:16 PM
While MSG is no theater, it has been home to a whole lotta great rock shows. It has vibe.

I have come to find that cool bars near big concerts are packed, packed, packed. Ah well.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 04:57 AM
All booked I had a code for Thursday and logged on during the night US time as I am travelling from the UK.No problems with queues etc apart from the price LOL which was excessive.Going to take in the Big House(first visit) on the same trip.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 09:21 AM
The absolute best ABB lineup is the one you can go see at a live show... so in March it will be this one.


They have all been good. To go see them live at any point in their history and spend time complaining that some other version was better is a great way to squander what should be 3 of the best hours of your life.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 10:23 AM
adhill58. Should this lineup be called The Allman Brothers Band? They chose not to call it the Allman Brothers but maybe they should.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 10:53 AM
Hey, when was the ticket release? It's already started? I'm just seeing scattered seats... or is this just the pre-sale I'm seeing?
 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 10:59 AM
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Hey, when was the ticket release? It's already started? I'm just seeing scattered seats... or is this just the pre-sale I'm seeing?


It sold at 10 am. So no not the pre sale anymore.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 01:34 PM
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The absolute best ABB lineup is the one you can go see at a live show... so in March it will be this one.


They have all been good. To go see them live at any point in their history and spend time complaining that some other version was better is a great way to squander what should be 3 of the best hours of your life.

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adhill58. Should this lineup be called The Allman Brothers Band? They chose not to call it the Allman Brothers but maybe they should.



They have decided to not call it the ABB. That works for me. It will still be the best live ABB music you can see anywhere. That was the case with the last lineup. That was the case with Les Brers when that was the only game in town. That was the case for the NYE show a few years ago that was Gov't Mule with Jack Pearson and Chuck Leavell.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 04:20 PM
As I see the seats that are available, most are side and behind stage. I've been to some concerts where they do the same thing. ZZ Top didn't look at anyone except the fans in front. Bob Seger would go behind stage with his mic and sing toward the folks in back. Springsteen and most of the band will go back at some point which is nice.

I don't know if anyone has thought of this but can you see anyone in an ABB-esque show turning around to play at people not in front of them? I can't even imagine that.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 05:05 PM
I grabbed a single barstool behind the stage. In the house and will hear the tunes and see what I see.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 09:17 PM
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The absolute best ABB lineup is the one you can go see at a live show... so in March it will be this one.


They have all been good. To go see them live at any point in their history and spend time complaining that some other version was better is a great way to squander what should be 3 of the best hours of your life.


I love this post! It really made me feel better about the outrageous sum I paid for the show. It will be impossible not to think about Gregg and Dickey and Butch but there will be much joy in the night as well. Well said!

 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 10:16 PM
How well is this reunion show selling? I only see decent resale tickets online so I assume itís nearly sold out.
 

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  posted on 1/10/2020 at 10:21 PM
You all know about the shed tour in August and September? Less expensive tickets.
 

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How well is this reunion show selling? I only see decent resale tickets online so I assume itís nearly sold out.


It has sold very well, but a ton of tickets were bought by scalpers.
Looks like about half of the $50 & $99 tickets are already posted for re sale on TM.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2020 at 08:33 AM
4,771 tickets for sale on StubHub this morning.
Every time I put something in my cart during the presale I kept getting the message that another person had already bought the seat, no wonder!

 

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4,771 tickets for sale on StubHub this morning.


That's a quarter of the tickets. And then maybe another 2000-3000 re-sale tickets on Ticketmaster. So, all in all, about 40% of the tickets are on the second-hand market? I wish those could have gone to the fans instead.

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4,771 tickets for sale on StubHub this morning.


That's a quarter of the tickets. And then maybe another 2000-3000 re-sale tickets on Ticketmaster. So, all in all, about 40% of the tickets are on the second-hand market? I wish those could have gone to the fans instead.

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I saw that as well this morning and that is a lot of tickets for resale which means that seats will be going for cheap the night of. I kind of wish I had waited before buying as better seats will be available pretty easily for less than face value..

 

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4,771 tickets for sale on StubHub this morning.


That's a quarter of the tickets. And then maybe another 2000-3000 re-sale tickets on Ticketmaster. So, all in all, about 40% of the tickets are on the second-hand market? I wish those could have gone to the fans instead.

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I saw that as well this morning and that is a lot of tickets for resale which means that seats will be going for cheap the night of. I kind of wish I had waited before buying as better seats will be available pretty easily for less than face value..


Yeah, I just noticed there are tickets going for less than face value already now... Looks like the re-sellers will take a beating on this. Good for the fans, in a roundabout way, but I just wish this whole secondary market could be eliminated - or at least not encouraged and facilitated by the official retailer!

 
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