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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 02:57 PM
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Because my answer is straightforward . . .


Ok, so you are not going to offer your straightforward answer. Why are you expecting answers from others on a question you won't answer?

Looks a discussion D.O.A. to me.


Economically depressed cities where education, career and family are not priorities.

This is the result.

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 02:59 PM
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Economically depressed cities where education, career and family are not priorities.



Why the dance? You mean black areas.

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:17 PM
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Economically depressed cities where education, career and family are not priorities.



Why the dance? You mean black areas.


No. You mean Black areas. I stated clearly above where I thought the issue was. YOU brought color to this.

Exactly the response I anticipated. Your assumption and yours alone.

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:31 PM
Oh sorry. My bad. Just looked like you needed some help to be straightforward and stop dancing.
 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:36 PM
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Just looked like you needed some help to be straightforward and stop dancing.


No "help" needed. You are describing a "Truth" as the left sees it and can therefore label it. It must be racist!

Just as I predicted.

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:36 PM
The implication was quite clear, as such things usually are.

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:39 PM
"Hoisted by his own petard," as the old saying goes. lol
 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:44 PM
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The implication was quite clear, as such things usually are.


To you and your narrative.... I mean your vision is the only one, right? I have always and will continue to believe in the positives behind the value of Education, Career and Family.

Label that anyway you please.

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:45 PM
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No. You mean Black areas.


Nope, I haven't answered your question yet. We were still working on trying to interpret your "straightforward" answer!

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:56 PM
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I think it's fair to ask "Why are these cities at the forefront of this issue"?...Why are not Bozeman, Mt., Portland Maine & Des Moines IA, included in this discussion?... This is a reality that the left does not want to face.



Baltimore and Chicago are NOT at the forefront of mass shootings. The onus is on you to explain why you make that connection.




 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 03:58 PM
So, do you think people in economically depressed cities where education, career and family are not priorities are to blame for their situation due to inherent character flaws?
 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 04:04 PM
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Because my answer is straightforward and is in direct conflict with what the left deems "PC"...


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Economically depressed cities where education, career and family are not priorities.

This is the result.


Can you explain why your answer above would be viewed as politically incorrect by the left?

 

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Because it is straightforward.
 

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Whatever man, you are so busted.
 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 04:14 PM
Not sure what is going on down there, but it isn't good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVgG95VCcxE


 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 04:37 PM
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The implication was quite clear, as such things usually are.


To you and your narrative.... I mean your vision is the only one, right? I have always and will continue to believe in the positives behind the value of Education, Career and Family.

Label that anyway you please.


I don’t have a narrative. I’m reading what you typed.

Of course we see the usual smug “You just don’t like that I have a different opinion” nonsense that you somehow continually believe that no one sees through.

You’ve been posting for years how little you think of immigrants and the poor. “Education, career and family” plays off just about every single implied racist statement going back fifty years or more, which everyone knows, including you. You know it or you wouldn’t have tried to throw it back at someone calling you out on it.

As a matter of fact, you typed “Education, career and family” on purpose to see what response you’d get.

“It’s not my fault if I imply racist statements and you all hear it as racist. I just have a different opinion and you don’t like it.” Isn’t that about right?

What you never seem to understand is that no one really cares if you have an opinion or not. It’s yours. You have every right to it. Have it. Post it. Say it. Live it. Be it. Own it.

Now, someone disagreeing with it doesn’t mean that disagreement comes from the point that you merely have a differing opinion and that somehow you have convinced yourself that’s the only reason anyone would dare disagree with you in the first place.

Your opinion is yours and you have every right to it. Me thinking your opinion is awful harms you in no way, no matter how much you wish it to be so.



 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 04:51 PM
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I think it's fair to ask "Why are these cities at the forefront of this issue"?...Why are not Bozeman, Mt., Portland Maine & Des Moines IA, included in this discussion?... This is a reality that the left does not want to face.



Baltimore and Chicago are NOT at the forefront of mass shootings. The onus is on you to explain why you make that connection.




The confusion might lie in the definitions
Baltimore was at the forefront last year with 348 homicides, the most violent year ever on a per capita basis

In terms of mass shootings, true, Baltimore may not be - unsure about Chicago - completely lost about the “left” & “right”
Are homicides & mass shootings one & the same - if so, could that explain statistical info getting tangled up/misinterpreted etc

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 07:12 PM
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. . .YOU brought color to this.


Of course I did. I am the Whipping Post Leading Racist. A badge of honor earned the hard way from years of Mulebarf.

[Edited on 1/17/2020 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 08:05 PM
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The confusion might lie in the definitions
Baltimore was at the forefront last year with 348 homicides, the most violent year ever on a per capita basis

In terms of mass shootings, true, Baltimore may not be - unsure about Chicago - completely lost about the “left” & “right”
Are homicides & mass shootings one & the same - if so, could that explain statistical info getting tangled up/misinterpreted etc


Some may be confused, sure. But when we hear horror stories of innocent men, women, and children being slaughtered like sheep in churches, schools, theatres, clubs, and festivals, there's no logical reason to immediately point to inner city gun violence in black communities, but it happened frequently on Fox News, and right here. Are you denying this?


 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 10:03 PM
Probably missing something, but IMO it’s a different conversation, Skydog32103 - never said gun violence was restricted just to black communities in inner cities - was just pointing out the horrific crime rate in Baltimore - didn’t have the other atrocities you mentioned in mind when doing so - I don’t watch Fox News

Brad Marchand is left wing, David Pastrnak right wing - that’s the extent of my knowledge about that - other than one means liberal, the other conservative - overall, am not the brightest crayon in the box on this end of things

Most recently, “Federal officials have charged another Baltimore detective with corruption in a rogue unit....allegedly planted a BB gun on a suspect, then lied to a federal grand jury about it”

This kind of stuff is what I decry in mentioning Baltimore - all the best, hope that clarifies things

[Edited on 1/17/2020 by Stephen]

 

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Probably missing something, but IMO it’s a different conversation, Skydog32103 - never said gun violence was restricted just to inner cities - was just pointing out the horrific crime rate in Baltimore - I don’t watch Fox News - didn’t have the other atrocities you mentioned in mind when doing so

Brad Marchand is left wing, David Pastrnak right wing - that’s the extent of my knowledge about that - other than one means liberal, the other conservative - overall, am not the brightest crayon in the box on this end of things

Most recently, “Federal officials have charged another Baltimore detective with corruption in a rogue unit....allegedly planted a BB gun on a suspect, then lied to a federal grand jury about it”

This kind of stuff is what I decry in mentioning Baltimore


Well at least you didn't deny my point. As for your point, I guess my question is, why are you taking an interest in Baltimore in a thread about school shootings and Democratic leadership? After he made that point, you have made numerous posts about Baltimore, as if to underscore Jerry's point.

 

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  posted on 1/16/2020 at 11:19 PM
The part about the Democratic leadership I missed, but you make a valid point - I have kinda beaten into the ground, a topic that had little to do with the thread - got me cranky reading about how bad it was & for some reason posted it here, the lone connection being to Jerry’s original prediction
Not keen to predict the next school shooting, it’ll come soon enough



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  posted on 1/17/2020 at 12:31 AM
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. . .got me cranky reading about how bad it was & for some reason posted it here


np man, you are probably the only person here who actually cares about this issue at face value and is not a jaded heartless bastard using it for a political springboard. We don't see genuine concern here much so forgive our skepticism.

We're all like "wow, this guy actually gives a sh!t and is taking it to heart. Gotta be an act."

 

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  posted on 1/17/2020 at 07:54 AM
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The part about the Democratic leadership I missed, but you make a valid point - I have kinda beaten into the ground, a topic that had little to do with the thread - got me cranky reading about how bad it was & for some reason posted it here, the lone connection being to Jerry’s original prediction
Not keen to predict the next school shooting, it’ll come soon enough


Fair points.

I think it's clear that the threat of school shootings exists everywhere, such as Newtown, CT, Bozeman, Mt., Portland, ME, Des Moines, IA, Orlando, FL, Baltimore, MD......we don't have to list the towns and cities that have suffered this.


 

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  posted on 1/17/2020 at 08:05 AM
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I think you are well aware that the right always brought up gun violence in Chicago quite a bit whenever Democrats wanted to propose ideas to stop suburban mass shootings. It was everywhere in the media and on this very site. Now it's Baltimore because Cummings was from there. I think it's a cheap way to say that Democratic leaders, like Cummings, are bad at stopping gun violence, and therefore should be dismissed when trying to propose logical common sense gun laws..


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I think it's fair to ask "Why are these cities at the forefront of this issue"?...Why are not Bozeman, Mt., Portland Maine & Des Moines IA, included in this discussion?... This is a reality that the left does not want to face.
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Because my answer is straightforward and is in direct conflict with what the left deems "PC"...



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Economically depressed cities where education, career and family are not priorities.

This is the result.


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No. You mean Black areas. I stated clearly above where I thought the issue was. YOU brought color to this.

Exactly the response I anticipated. Your assumption and yours alone.


The conversation was finally getting honest and we were getting somewhere. Was hoping to hear from you....if you aren't bringing race into the equation, then can you explain why your answer above would be viewed as politically incorrect by the left?

And why did you insinuate that Baltimore and Chicago are at the forefront of mass shootings when they are not?


 
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