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  posted on 12/6/2019 at 06:29 PM
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Military bases can be as deadly as schools
The one in Pensacola (4 dead others wounded) might be terrorism-related they’re saying as the shooter was a Saudi aviation student
Earlier this week, a similar incident at Pearl Harbor

Seems to hardly be news anymore - the shooting involving a UPS truck at a Fla. intersection leaving 4 dead, including a nearby motorist, is atrocious
As always, it’s the people not the guns doing the damage - it’s up to people to control guns, not vice versa

[Edited on 12/6/2019 by Stephen]



It gets worse Stephen because the shooter is from Saudi Arabia, and a military man. He was here for training per middle eastern news sources. He is dead now.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/473409-trump-speaks-with-saudi- king-after-pensacola-shooting

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/473455-senator-calls-for-review-of-mili tary-programs-for-foreign-nationals-after

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/gunman-dead-opening-fire-navy-base-f lorida-navy-191206140438074.html

"The suspect used a handgun in the shooting, which took place over two floors in a classroom building at a base whose main function is training, officials said.

"Walking through the crime scene was like being on the set of a movie," Sheriff David Morgan said.

The first reports of an "active shooter" on the base came through to the Escambia County sheriff's office at about 6:51am, officials said.

A few minutes later, a sheriff's deputy fatally shot the attacker in a classroom on the base, Morgan added.

The Pensacola base, which is near Florida's border with Alabama, is a major training site for the Navy and home to its aerobatic flight demonstration squadron, the Blue Angels. The base employs about 16,000 military and 7,400 civilian personnel, according to the base's website.

"In recent weeks, 18 naval aviators and two aircrew members from the Royal Saudi Naval Forces were training with the US Navy, including a stint at Pensacola, according to a November 15 press release from the Navy. It was not clear if the suspected shooter was part of that delegation.

The delegation came under a Navy programme that offers training to US allies, known as the Naval Education and Training Security Assistance Field Activity.

A person familiar with the programme said that Saudi Air Force officers selected for military training in the US are intensely vetted by both countries.

The Saudi personnel are "hand-picked" by their military and often come from elite families, the person said, speaking to Reuters News Agency on condition of anonymity because they did not have permission to speak to a reporter. Trainees must speak excellent English, the person said."






[Edited on 12/6/2019 by gina]

 

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  posted on 12/8/2019 at 02:37 PM
The post on Pensacola may require MORE. I was going to make a cheap remark about well at least they weren't training to put any planes into any buildings but sadly there is additional info. linking the former WTC attack hijackers to THIS naval facility AND people who go to this Naval Facility are fully vetted before being allowed to come, so the post additional stuff on the shooting will be moved to Terrorism updates.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/07/pensacola-shooter-hosted-dinner-party-to-watc h-mass-shooting-videos-report/


 

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  posted on 12/11/2019 at 01:44 PM
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Personally I feel more at ease among unarmed people than I do around folks packing heat.



WHAT? You feel you wouldn't be safe around me?

 

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  posted on 12/11/2019 at 02:55 PM
No I am fine around armed friends. Point was I would feel uneasy in say a restaurant full of armed people, or any place where there were a lot of people. One little thing goes wrong and it's 4th of July. No thanks.
 

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  posted on 12/11/2019 at 07:20 PM
Who can watch this video and honestly say she deserves the right to own?

https://www.wbtv.com/2019/12/10/watch-manager-catches-baby-falling-headfirs t-off-utah-store-counter/

 

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  posted on 12/11/2019 at 08:43 PM
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Who can watch this video and honestly say she deserves the right to own?

https://www.wbtv.com/2019/12/10/watch-manager-catches-baby-falling-headfirs t-off-utah-store-counter/


Depends on how child services sees the situation. She will always have the RIGHT to purchase and own until/if she gets charged with a felony.

Now, did you mean to ask if we think she shouldn't own a firearm, that would be different.

PS: Good job Bill!!!

 

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  posted on 12/21/2019 at 12:40 AM
Malls in Atlanta, San Antonio, OKC - Winston-Salem N.C., Westerly RI - they’ve all had gun violence & fatalities recently - hell even a sub-human being used her car to intentionally run over a 14 year old girl in Iowa because she thought the girl was Mexican

So people don’t just use guns to kill - ask Catrina Costello - she deserves general population - in A Male Prison - for what she did

 

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  posted on 12/24/2019 at 01:08 AM
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even a sub-human being used her car to intentionally run over a 14 year old girl in Iowa because she thought the girl was Mexican
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It’s just one of the faults in the system of justice
Knowing this slimeball is an avowed racist, they still put her back on the streets after she ran over that girl b/c, she later said herself, the girl was Mexican - she spewed out racist trash to the cops as she was being arrested, article said, & the girl was hospitalized for 2 days

This SKUNK has now been charged with a second hit and run in which a 12 year old boy was injured, also DUI 2nd
Yet the county prosecutor is saying a hate crime doesn’t apply in her case
So she gets another citation to appear in court
& goes back to her mudhole>booze>car keys & the next attack
People like that belong in jail, Period

[Edited on 12/24/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 12/24/2019 at 01:35 AM
Hopefully someone in that Iowa town won’t have to die before this individual is put away
That’s what happened earlier tho year in NH

Oh they put her away alright (45 years to life)
But not before she killed her elderly neighbors & their dog by intentionally running them over as they were out walking

This after years of unprovoked criminal harassment of this couple, to the point where they’d sold their house & were planning to move

Cops/neighbors knew about her, restraining orders were issued yadadada
Did nothing
Terribly discouraging to see the legal system fail so bad in cases like this

[Edited on 12/24/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 12/29/2019 at 09:43 PM
This Time, They Fought Back
Some deranged demonic loser slithered into a church service in White Settlement TX, and murdered 2 parishioners
A member of the congregation then returned fire, killing the assailant

Where have we gone so far wrong as to make religion the lightning rod for hatred & senseless violence?

The other crime today is also sickly - photos showed the rotten skunk in handcuffs after he stabbed 5 people at a Hanukkah celebration in Monsey NY

I know that violence in religion is not new - countries have gone to war over it
Now that we have “hate crimes,” people of faith seem to have become ready targets
No end to it....

 

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  posted on 12/30/2019 at 12:17 AM
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A member of the congregation then returned fire, killing the assailant


This is a good thing!

 

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  posted on 12/30/2019 at 06:28 AM
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A member of the congregation then returned fire, killing the assailant


This is a good thing!


Yeah shootouts in houses of worship. Great thing.
I get it though, this is the 1/100 instances where a “good guy with a gun” actually did something, be sure to cite this instance as the norm.

 

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  posted on 12/30/2019 at 08:49 AM
2 people were murdered while praying in church. Countless others who witnessed it are rightfully traumatized. And I highly doubt the hero who took out the shooter feels good about what happened. The family of the shooter is now suffering. There are ways to regulate gun ownership to reduce these incidents, but any proposal will cause the biggest babies of our country to throw a fit, panic, and make it about themselves and how they are the ones who are actually losing something - and murdered children in school doesn't even change their ignorant minds.



[Edited on 12/30/2019 by Skydog32103]

 

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  posted on 12/30/2019 at 10:16 AM
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A member of the congregation then returned fire, killing the assailant


This is a good thing!


Yeah shootouts in houses of worship. Great thing.
I get it though, this is the 1/100 instances where a “good guy with a gun” actually did something, be sure to cite this instance as the norm.


Yeah, I guess this is like a "worst case scenario" for the left?...What's the old saying?..."If it saves one life"?...Well. how many were saved here?....When saving INNOCENT people from a mentally deranged lunatic, does it really matter how this is accomplished?...I'll wager the other parishioners and their families are pretty damned pleased their friend took action....

I repeat, this is a good thing and if we saw more of it there would be far less attempts at mass shootings.

 

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  posted on 12/30/2019 at 10:45 AM
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When saving INNOCENT people from a mentally deranged lunatic, does it really matter how this is accomplished?


Wow, look at that - when it comes to gun control measures, you have an extreme left point of view about it.

 

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  posted on 12/30/2019 at 10:56 AM
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When saving INNOCENT people from a mentally deranged lunatic, does it really matter how this is accomplished?


Wow, look at that - when it comes to gun control measures, you have an extreme left point of view about it.


Is it OK with you that this man's actions WITH A GUN, saved lives?

Yes or No?

 

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  posted on 12/30/2019 at 11:03 AM
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Is it OK with you that this man's actions WITH A GUN, saved lives?

Yes or No?


My only point to you is that liberals also want to save innocent lives from deranged lunatics, and we don't think it matters how it's accomplished, so we agree on that.

 

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  posted on 12/30/2019 at 12:18 PM
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When saving INNOCENT people from a mentally deranged lunatic, does it really matter how this is accomplished?

If it didn't matter to you "how", you would also be ok if neither person had a gun. Especially keeping them away from the "mentally deranged".

Also, can the original poster please change the despicable thread title since their child death prediction was super wrong? I'm tired of seeing it when I want to talk football.

 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 06:13 AM
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When saving INNOCENT people from a mentally deranged lunatic, does it really matter how this is accomplished?

If it didn't matter to you "how", you would also be ok if neither person had a gun. Especially keeping them away from the "mentally deranged".

Also, can the original poster please change the despicable thread title since their child death prediction was super wrong? I'm tired of seeing it when I want to talk football.


Good luck with this crowd admitting being wrong, Obama still isn’t an Uhhhmurrrican citizen in their eyes

 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 12:19 PM
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When saving INNOCENT people from a mentally deranged lunatic, does it really matter how this is accomplished?



If it didn't matter to you "how", you would also be ok if neither person had a gun. Especially keeping them away from the "mentally deranged"..


You don't seem to be "OK" with the fact that yet another tragic day was cut short short and who knows how many lives were saved by a very brave man with a gun.

Fact: A "Mentally deranged" individual somehow acquired a gun and walked into a house of worship with the intent of killing innocent people and was sent to his maker by a law abiding citizen.

 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 12:54 PM
By all accounts there’s been only relief and gratitude for the presence of the armed parishioners who stood up to this madman

Yes it’s an ironic crying shame that strict security measures must now be taken at places of worship - not to mention unmentionable conduct among some of their officiates....
But in this case, those who gave this creep a taste of his own medicine, are only heroes

 

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When saving INNOCENT people from a mentally deranged lunatic, does it really matter how this is accomplished?


If it didn't matter to you "how", you would also be ok if neither person had a gun. Especially keeping them away from the "mentally deranged"..


You don't seem to be "OK" with the fact that yet another tragic day was cut short short and who knows how many lives were saved by a very brave man with a gun.


You presume much, as usual. I'm glad more people are safe and a murderer is no longer a threat, but would prefer we try harder to keep guns away from deranged lunatics in the first place.

I just pointed out that if you don't care how, you would also be ok with neither person in that room having a gun. Rather than try to understand that, you pivoted using a straw man argument. Try to stick to what people write, because you're either really bad at reading in between the lines or you purposefully misrepresent.

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 01:23 PM
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By all accounts there’s been only relief and gratitude for the presence of the armed parishioners who stood up to this madman

Yes it’s an ironic crying shame that strict security measures must now be taken at places of worship - not to mention unmentionable conduct among some of their officiates....
But in this case, those who gave this creep a taste of his own medicine, are only heroes


Wow, sympathy, respect, reflection, acknowledgement of irony. The miracle of the bicameral brain.








 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 02:11 PM
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Yeah, I guess this is like a "worst case scenario" for the left?


You need professional help.

 

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  posted on 12/31/2019 at 04:16 PM
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Yeah, I guess this is like a "worst case scenario" for the left?


You need professional help.


Thanks Doc.

Happy New Year!

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Rather than try to understand that, you pivoted using a straw man argument. Try to stick to what people write, because you're either really bad at reading in between the lines or you purposefully misrepresent.


Yada, yada yada...followed by a big long yawn.

 

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