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  posted on 1/23/2020 at 11:11 PM
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Does a homemade blunderbuss need to be registered?

Not that I know of. I'll check it out for you.


Here's something from Criminal Defense lawyer:

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/homemade-guns-are-they-lega l-must-they-be-registered.

 

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  posted on 1/23/2020 at 11:14 PM
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Oh are you referring to all of the white people walking around the former Capital of the Confederacy with sniper rifles on the day we celebrate MLK, Jr, a black leader who was killed by a racist with a sniper rifle? Yeah, I agree, they are not helping solve anything.


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What about all the black people at the Lobby Day annual event? You do remember this is held yearly?
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/black-gun-rights-activist-virginia- rally

Click on the video and see what a black man has to say.


Do you not understand the absurdity of expecting people to give credence to a illegitimate website, labeled as an opinion piece? Dude, Iím trying to help you - read up on journalism and how to identify journalistic integrity. Itís no wonder youíre mixed up. Lastly, that article showed ONE black person, LOL, and you wrote ď....all the black peopleĒ. Iím not mocking your position - Iím mocking your choice of evidence.


You say that wasn't a black man talking, giving his views on the gun laws proposed by Virginia Democrats?
You want to deny him his civil rights to free speech by ignoring his message.
How RACIST can you be?

 

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  posted on 1/23/2020 at 11:24 PM
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Itís a screwy world alright


Might be a good reason to be a little more selective in our purchase application process, and maybe make the process a bit more challenging. how can we acknowledge that itís a screwy world with undetected screwy people everywhere, and throw up our hands? thereís no logical reason to oppose ways to make it tougher. the only thing getting in the way of making it tougher is the rightís sensitivity to their manhood. their concern for effectiveness is a complete load of b.s.

 

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  posted on 1/25/2020 at 07:31 PM
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Itís a screwy world alright


Might be a good reason to be a little more selective in our purchase application process, and maybe make the process a bit more challenging. how can we acknowledge that itís a screwy world with undetected screwy people everywhere, and throw up our hands? thereís no logical reason to oppose ways to make it tougher. the only thing getting in the way of making it tougher is the rightís sensitivity to their manhood. their concern for effectiveness is a complete load of b.s.


I'm reminded of the old joke: "Confusion say, man who talks of other mens manhood, often has problems with his own."

 

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  posted on 1/25/2020 at 08:38 PM
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a father decided to play-wrestle with his 4 year old son
While in possession of a loaded gun
Where are peoplesí brains anyway

Gun accidentally fell out of his pocket, discharged - and his son is in critical condition after being shot in the head -




Sadly, the 4 year old passed away
The father was also injured but will recover
By all online accounts a respected and well liked family, & just a terrible tragedy
The torment the poor father will have to endure, is unimaginable
While obviously a preventable tragedy, thereís no being safe enough around guns no matter what

[Edited on 1/26/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 1/25/2020 at 09:52 PM
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Sadly, the 4 year old passed away

thereís no being safe enough around guns no matter what


yup. a dead 4-year old boy was killed by his father because in this country, you don't need to be educated on a firearm if you want to buy one....you only have to have a clean record. this is what happens. so, more and more 4-year olds will be continue to be shot by their uneducated idiots fathers. price of freedom though, right? if only there was a system in place to teach these people in advance, then that 4-year old little boy would probably be alive today.

 

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Sadly, the 4 year old passed away

thereís no being safe enough around guns no matter what


yup. a dead 4-year old boy was killed by his father because in this country, you don't need to be educated on a firearm if you want to buy one....you only have to have a clean record. this is what happens. so, more and more 4-year olds will be continue to be shot by their uneducated idiots fathers. price of freedom though, right? if only there was a system in place to teach these people in advance, then that 4-year old little boy would probably be alive today.


We've suggested it before. Mandatory firearms education in schools. Safety classes early, marksmanship at later grades.
For those who didn't get it earlier, a three week course in safety, education (laws and responsibility), and marksmanship. All could be paid for by taxes on sales of candy, soda, and smokes.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2020 at 12:59 AM
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We've suggested it before. Mandatory firearms education in schools. Safety classes early, marksmanship at later grades.


ďWeĒ, lol.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2020 at 11:52 PM
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We've suggested it before. Mandatory firearms education in schools. Safety classes early, marksmanship at later grades.
For those who didn't get it earlier, a three week course in safety, education (laws and responsibility), and marksmanship. All could be paid for by taxes on sales of candy, soda, and smokes.


Itís worth serious consideration if not a try - there would be opposition b/c of higher taxes, the newness of it etc
But itís a new angle that is better than what weíve had

In Kentucky, 4 instance, the state senate voted 34-1 to send to the House, legislation requiring that police officers be armed when assigned to schools
adding more firearms to a problem is ineffective - but it could prove to be otherwise there, if the legislation is voted through & enacted

Nope those high school daze arenít what they used to be

[Edited on 1/28/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 07:49 AM
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Itís worth serious consideration if not a try - there would be opposition b/c of higher taxes, the newness of it etc
But itís a new angle that is better than what weíve had


yíall need to work on your trolling better. you need to say something poignant and thoughtful to get people riled up. looking like stooges doesnít help your case.

Yes, weíll add a new class to all schools, extend school hours, hire hundreds of thousands of shooting instructors....each school will of course need massive insurance policies, even more massive health plans for accidents, new legal teams for the lawsuits.....oh yeah, and forget the freedom of the people. Screw freedom! Donít want your kid to shoot guns at school? TOUGH! ďBetter than what weíve hadĒ??? Wow.

nowadays the right side seems to love those fascist foreign dictator type societies.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 05:08 PM
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We've suggested it before. Mandatory firearms education in schools. Safety classes early, marksmanship at later grades.


ďWeĒ, lol.


Yes, WE. It's been proposed as legislation to over 30 states.
How about that.

Now, quit wasting my time with snarky comments.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 05:10 PM
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Itís worth serious consideration if not a try - there would be opposition b/c of higher taxes, the newness of it etc
But itís a new angle that is better than what weíve had


yíall need to work on your trolling better. you need to say something poignant and thoughtful to get people riled up. looking like stooges doesnít help your case.

Yes, weíll add a new class to all schools, extend school hours, hire hundreds of thousands of shooting instructors....each school will of course need massive insurance policies, even more massive health plans for accidents, new legal teams for the lawsuits.....oh yeah, and forget the freedom of the people. Screw freedom! Donít want your kid to shoot guns at school? TOUGH! ďBetter than what weíve hadĒ??? Wow.

nowadays the right side seems to love those fascist foreign dictator type societies.


You don't like it because it really would be a "common sense" gun law very much unlike your total confiscation laws would be.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 05:20 PM
I am aware of gun classes as elective in Illinois high schools, being considered elsewhere. I haven't seen anything about "mandatory" firearm training. Could use a link or two on that if not too much trouble thx.

Not a huge fan of the word "mandatory", to me that means move forward with extreme caution.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 07:31 PM
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You don't like it because it really would be a "common sense" gun law very much unlike your total confiscation laws would be.


Iíve only posted about a tougher vetting system. where did you get confiscation from you big silly goose? common sense huh? then walk us through the financials, your plan for accidental injuries and death, and how families can exercise their freedom if itís mandatory?

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It's been proposed as legislation to over 30 states.
How about that.


What was the end result in the red states?

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Now, quit wasting my time with snarky comments.


oh Jerry, you really do make me smile.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 07:32 PM
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I am aware of gun classes as elective in Illinois high schools, being considered elsewhere. I haven't seen anything about "mandatory" firearm training. Could use a link or two on that if not too much trouble thx.

Not a huge fan of the word "mandatory", to me that means move forward with extreme caution.


So far only 12 states have the program implemented.
Here's a few articles.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/12/23/mandatory-gun-training-launched-for -middle-schoolers-education-out-performs-fear-mongering-706219

https://www.foxnews.com/us/iowa-middle-schools-to-begin-gun-safety-program

https://redoubtnews.com/2018/01/firearms-safety-schools/

While not a mandatory class state wide:


 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 07:40 PM
Hit send before I finished.

https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/kansas-bill-would-require-schools-offering -gun-safety-use-nra/article_5c20b77a-19cb-11e8-8f31-97bce05f46f8.html
Not mandatory state wide, but class is mandatory where taught.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 07:42 PM
Those are all hunter safety, gun safety, shooter situation drill - no live rounds used in curriculum - with opt out for parents who object - looks sensible.


 

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Itís worth serious consideration if not a try - there would be opposition b/c of higher taxes, the newness of it etc
But itís a new angle that is better than what weíve had


yíall need to work on your trolling better. you need to say something poignant and thoughtful to get people riled up. looking like stooges doesnít help your case.

Yes, weíll add a new class to all schools, extend school hours, hire hundreds of thousands of shooting instructors....each school will of course need massive insurance policies, even more massive health plans for accidents, new legal teams for the lawsuits.....oh yeah, and forget the freedom of the people. Screw freedom! Donít want your kid to shoot guns at school? TOUGH! ďBetter than what weíve hadĒ??? Wow.

nowadays the right side seems to love those fascist foreign dictator type societies.


Grade school-Eddie Eagle, free, videos and material. Middle school-marksmanship and hunter safety taught by local LEOs and DNR at the police range. Generally free except for ammo., which is cheap since they use BB guns. High school-Advanced marksmanship, pistol and rifle clubs, skeet and trap shooting.
Only costs ammo since the kids can't own a firearm.

"Screw freedom!" That's your expertise since you want to disarm everyone.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 07:55 PM
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"Screw freedom!" That's your expertise since you want to disarm everyone.


Iím only for an effective vetting system, but if you was to sound like someone in over your head, because you canít figure out a response, please go right ahead.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 08:54 PM
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"Screw freedom!" That's your expertise since you want to disarm everyone.


Iím only for an effective vetting system, but if you was to sound like someone in over your head, because you canít figure out a response, please go right ahead.


"Effective"...keyword. Please elaborate and while you're at it, include your plan to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2020 at 09:16 PM
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"Effective"...keyword. Please elaborate and while you're at it, include your plan to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.


who said anything about the black market? you have got to stop with the straw arguments. Iím only interested in ways of preventing undiagnosed deranged psychos from purchasing.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 12:46 AM
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"Effective"...keyword. Please elaborate and while you're at it, include your plan to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.


who said anything about the black market? you have got to stop with the straw arguments. Iím only interested in ways of preventing undiagnosed deranged psychos from purchasing.


I mentioned it and I will continue to mention it because it is THE problem in the gun issue ...

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Iím only interested in ways of preventing undiagnosed deranged psychos from purchasing.


And you truly believe that deranged individuals just stroll down to the nearest gun shop to purchase?

Dude

 

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"Effective"...keyword. Please elaborate and while you're at it, include your plan to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.


who said anything about the black market? you have got to stop with the straw arguments. Iím only interested in ways of preventing undiagnosed deranged psychos from purchasing.


If I'm not mistaken, you mentioned it in several threads.
Your straw argument about the "undiagnosed deranged psychos" has lost any value in the discussion. We've asked several times who they are, and you can't tell us.
Your figures of "millions" are made up since you can't give any evidence of those numbers.
Your constant refrain of "common sense gun laws" is nothing but a mantra for the anti-gunners, the ones who wish to disarm the populace slowly and deceitful by using the old, tired phrase "well, you compromised here, why can't you compromise now".
Think of those who you would disarm. What protection would they have against those who would do violence to them or their families? Think of the children that would live in fear, mothers who pull their children off playgrounds and back from friends when it gets dark, dads who feel helpless that they can't protect their loved ones, whole areas of towns that lock down before dark because they can't defend themselves against the evil that awaits outside, arm the populace and make those who would do evil afraid to go out do harm.
Your constant refusal to answer when asked, repeatedly posting the same thing, always ridiculing those who don't fall in line with your narrative, and dismissing anything that can actually help with the reduction of violence has given me the feeling, and opinion, that you are either a shill for the anti-gunners, or a troll.
Which one are you, if you are, and why do you continue to do the above things?

Begin edit: As far as a plan to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, we've asked you the same question, that is answered with a snarky response, or by the internet version of crickets. We've answered yours, now answer ours.
So again, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS?

We're patient, and can wait a while for an answer.

[Edited on 1/29/2020 by Jerry]

 

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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 09:19 AM
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I mentioned it and I will continue to mention it because it is THE problem in the gun issue ...


But I thought you said it was a mental health issue? Yet another straw argument from the scarecrow.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2020 at 09:24 AM
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Your constant refusal to answer when asked, repeatedly posting the same thing, always ridiculing those who don't fall in line with your narrative, and dismissing anything that can actually help with the reduction of violence has given me the feeling, and opinion, that you are either a shill for the anti-gunners, or a troll.


does this mean the right will worship me and elect me as President?

 
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