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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 10:44 AM
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LOL this pretty much nails it

 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 05:09 PM
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Don't keep such a closed mind about how you don't want anyone to own a firearm. If you don't want one, that's fine, don't own one.
Don't keep trying to stop anyone from owning one.


This is beyond stupid, and all emotion, like a kid.


But on the other side of the coin..."If you don't believe in Abortion, don't have one" is OK?

 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 06:00 PM
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But on the other side of the coin..."If you don't believe in Abortion, don't have one" is OK?


boy, you are the king of straw arguments. thereís more straw in you than the scarecrow. I donít know if itís a game you enjoy playing or just a lack of debate skills, but that gig is up. Let me explain. the abortion debate centers around the Republican attempt to ban it outright in states, denying people the right to choose, and we even had a Supreme Court case that deemed the ban unconstitutional. since you do know this, why relate it to a discussion that had nothing to do with banning firearms? This is what makes it a straw - thereís no correlation. I wonít expect an answer since you run and hide when challenged.

I donít have any issue with Jerry telling me not to own one if I donít like guns (even though I have three). But the conclusion that an agreed upon screening process is ďnot wanting anyone to own gunsĒ, is beyond stupid and immature, especially with whatís at stake. People need to step up and do better.



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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 06:07 PM
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Don't keep such a closed mind about how you don't want anyone to own a firearm. If you don't want one, that's fine, don't own one.
Don't keep trying to stop anyone from owning one.

This is beyond stupid, and all emotion, like a kid.

But on the other side of the coin..."If you don't believe in Abortion, don't have one" is OK?

Except a firearm is not a part of your body and a woman never killed a crowd of people with an abortion. This is a false equivalency. Just because the sentences sound the same, doesn't mean they mean the same thing.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 07:21 PM
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But on the other side of the coin..."If you don't believe in Abortion, don't have one" is OK?


boy, you are the king of straw arguments. thereís more straw in you than the scarecrow. I donít know if itís a game you enjoy playing or just a lack of debate skills, but that gig is up. Let me explain. the abortion debate centers around the Republican attempt to ban it outright in states, denying people the right to choose, and we even had a Supreme Court case that deemed the ban unconstitutional.


Nope. The abortion "debate" has everything to do with the lack of agreement as to where life begins. You raise only the legal argument. You referred to a post as being "Beyond stupid" because of an opinion expressed you disagreed with, nothing more, no less. My statement about abortion had zero to do with changing the course of this thread; only shared to show how one's opinion is about as meaningful...as you know what.



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I wonít expect an answer since you run and hide when challenged.


You...are a riot. Similar to the question I posed to you no fewer than three times concerning NEW ideas pertaining to the acquisition of black market firearms.

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I donít have any issue with Jerry telling me not to own one if I donít like guns (even though I have three). But the conclusion that an agreed upon screening process is ďnot wanting anyone to own gunsĒ, is beyond stupid and immature, especially with whatís at stake. People need to step up and do better.


Is there a "screening process" in place today when purchasing a firearm?


 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 07:24 PM
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Don't keep such a closed mind about how you don't want anyone to own a firearm. If you don't want one, that's fine, don't own one.
Don't keep trying to stop anyone from owning one.

This is beyond stupid, and all emotion, like a kid.

But on the other side of the coin..."If you don't believe in Abortion, don't have one" is OK?

Except a firearm is not a part of your body and a woman never killed a crowd of people with an abortion. This is a false equivalency. Just because the sentences sound the same, doesn't mean they mean the same thing.


The question directly to personal responsibility and how easily people can stand behind both sides of the same curtain. So enough with the "False equivalency" B.S.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 08:05 PM
The states want to disarm their citizens. You are aware of the demonstrations in Richmond, Virginia aren't you?They are due to laws that state wants to pass.

Abortion should be decided between the woman and her Doctor. There could be reasons why she needs one. It is not just financial/convenience reasons. It has to be between the woman and her Doctor. I think adoption is a better idea if the reasons for wanting one are financial/convenience/job related [ie. can't work if pregnant etc.].

 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 09:26 PM
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The abortion "debate" has everything to do with the lack of agreement as to where life begins. You raise only the legal argument.


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But on the other side of the coin..."If you don't believe in Abortion, don't have one" is OK?


You are going in circles Scarecrow.



 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 09:31 PM
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You referred to a post as being "Beyond stupid" because of an opinion expressed you disagreed with, nothing more, no less.


Anyone who thinks that asking for a better screening process is the same thing as "not wanting anyone to have a gun", is a moron, and you know it.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 09:36 PM
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You referred to a post as being "Beyond stupid" because of an opinion expressed you disagreed with, nothing more, no less.


Then I guess I have the right's vote for President of the United States.

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only shared to show how one's opinion is about as meaningful...as you know what.


Sherlock Holmes everyone.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2020 at 11:46 PM
2 dead, 5 injured in shooting in San Antonio bar - commonplace, people are used to it etc etc

What happened in Bloomington Indiana Sunday, however, is sheer stupidity -
a father decided to play-wrestle with his 4 year old son
While in possession of a loaded gun
Where are peoplesí brains anyway

Gun accidentally fell out of his pocket, discharged - and his son is in critical condition after being shot in the head -

Know this doesnít connect to the current conversation & only indirectly to the thread

 

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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 12:00 AM
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The question directly to personal responsibility and how easily people can stand behind both sides of the same curtain. So enough with the "False equivalency" B.S.

Except itís not the same curtain in any way. Like how some people think prevention for gun violence is pointless because people are going to get guns illegally, yet people want to build a wall to prevent illegal immigration even though people will still attempt to get here illegally. By your logic, youíd have to believe in prevention OR punishment. Take your pick if you think all issues are so black and white.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 09:44 AM
I apologize for being hostile towards some in this thread. the gun debate should never be politicized considering innocent loved ones are being slaughtered in schools and stores. crazy people go undetected and purchase guns legally to commit these atrocities, and some people can only think about themselves. new ideas wonít work? put your money where your mouth is. how about we try and see the results before assuming? the refusal to try speaks volumes. if all of these mass shootings were committed by black people, weíd have the toughest laws in the world to purchase. rejecting common sense laws demonstrates no concern for the victims whatsoever.



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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 09:57 AM
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The question directly to personal responsibility and how easily people can stand behind both sides of the same curtain. So enough with the "False equivalency" B.S.


now I see where you get tripped up. its a good thing to apply different logic to different topics. It makes perfect sense to do so since different topics are very different in nature. Itís actually foolish to apply the same logic to different topics. ďStanding behind both sides of the curtainĒ doesnít make someone a hypocrite - it makes them intelligent. For example, you support building the wall despite knowing it wonít prevent them all. But for gun control, itís a different t topic....2nd amendment right comes into play for you, so you use different logic. Thatís why straw arguments are rejected - because thereís no sense in comparing apples and oranges, which you do a lot. You canít hold this against liberals when we are all supposed to be doing it.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 12:00 PM
Says pro choice votes and talks anti.

Says pro 2nd calls for tougher gun laws.

I gave a 22 mag to a navajo in 89 to kill coyotes - no papers with it. If that gun kills someone and traced back to me I should lose my property? Go away.



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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 12:51 PM
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I gave a 22 mag to a navajo in 89 to kill coyotes - no papers with it. If that gun kills someone and traced back to me I should lose my property? Go away.

[Edited on 1/22/2020 by BrerRabbit]


Agree wholeheartedly Brer - however that was 30 years ago - things are different now

Example, the gun was located yesterday & identified as the one used in the most recent school shooting in which a student was murdered last week by a 16 year old fellow student at a Houston area high school

Who owns the gun, is still unclear -
Once the owner is IDíd, am guessing heíll be in trouble - hopefully not to the point of having his property confiscated or other unreasonable extremes -
but still, a minor committing murder with his, the ownerís, gun -

Reasonable or unreasonable, the law will not like this
That thereís no end to gun violence proves IMO thereís no solution to it

 

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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 12:55 PM
Yeah. I pretty much stay out of the gun trip. Just not a big fan of more laws on everything, practically can't even wipe my ass these days without some narc hollering how it should be done.

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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 01:38 PM
Haha! Thatís for sure
Btw did ya see that vid posted yesterday of the father of of a high school wrestler rushing onto the mat and blindsiding his sonís opponent after the opponent took down his son - crazy bro

apparently the move his sonís opponent used was an illegal one
....yet the sonís teammates wrote a letter to the other wrestler & his school apologizing for what the father did, citing shame & embarrassment

Some people defended the fatherís actions too, saying the tactic was dangerous
So, one just never knows - the other kid couldíve been injured too, blindsided like he was

Sorry man, I go off on tangents too easy - all good

 

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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 02:11 PM
No figuring people. Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning
 

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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 02:19 PM
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That thereís no end to gun violence proves IMO thereís no solution to it


That thereís no end to American gun violence proves we have the lowest standards and have been foolish in our management of this right. No other country has this epidemic. Raise your standards when it comes to innocent lives being taken by crazy people. You tell yourself thereís no solution because the truth hurts - the truth that itís just the United States and our failures to be responsible about it. That your desire to ďbeatĒ the liberals is stronger than your desire to save innocent lives. "You" in general terms, for those that oppose additional measures....not trying to get personal.



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  posted on 1/22/2020 at 05:44 PM
Way it is going looks like it will get so bad that there will be a huge martial crackdown and folks won't be allowed to even have bb guns. The holdouts like fat kinky gun fetish guy will be blown to pieces by the US Army, intel has all their data from them parading around brandishing their arsenals. Nat Guard will patrol the cities and take out the punks with guns.

It will sort itself out. Not saying I hope this goes down, just putting the pieces together. This is not going to continue - it is a huge sick joke by now - society will force a conclusion. The zillions being spent on security now, at schools, everywhere, it is taking a huge bite out of our quality of life.

Probably won't affect rural people with their gun collections much if at all other than buying ammo.

Done deal. Gonna be some fireworks at first, a lot more innocents will die, then backlash. There's your paradigm shift.

 

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  posted on 1/23/2020 at 10:00 PM
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Does a homemade blunderbuss need to be registered?

Not that I know of. I'll check it out for you.

 

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  posted on 1/23/2020 at 10:39 PM
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I apologize for being hostile towards some in this thread. the gun debate should never be politicized considering innocent loved ones are being slaughtered in schools and stores. crazy people go undetected and purchase guns legally to commit these atrocities, and some people can only think about themselves. new ideas wonít work? put your money where your mouth is. how about we try and see the results before assuming? the refusal to try speaks volumes. if all of these mass shootings were committed by black people, weíd have the toughest laws in the world to purchase. rejecting common sense laws demonstrates no concern for the victims whatsoever.
[Edited on 1/22/2020 by Skydog32103]


Sorry, but the Dems in general have politicized it for years, sometimes with GOP support. They campaign on passing gun laws, pass laws already on the books, and then strut around saying "see i did something".
There needs to be something done to help prevent violence, not just gun violence, in places where it is rampant.
Your phrase:" If all these mass shootings were committed by black people, we'd have the toughest laws in the world to purchase."
Is this your manifesto on the black race, that you think blacks with guns are the scourge of the nation?
Why are you afraid of blacks with firearms?
If you haven't gotten the drift, I think that phrase was exceptionally RACIST.

Show me a "common sense law" that doesn't restrict the rights of the law abiding citizens, doesn't call for more bans, doesn't call "buy backs" (how you buy back something you didn't sell confuses me) for firearms, doesn't call for illegal acts like the Virginia governor wants to use the National Guard to do weapons searches to "find" those who don't like the laws he is proposing, and I'll back you. I'll help you campaign for it, I'll even give financial support.
Now, here's the challenge. Try to talk a modern day Democrat to help you form that legislation.

See, there is no refusal to try, there is a refusal to lay down and give up our rights.


 

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  posted on 1/23/2020 at 10:44 PM
No denial. Speaks volumes.
 

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  posted on 1/23/2020 at 10:52 PM
ďA 43 year old Okla City man was sentenced Wednesday to 42 months in prison after admitting to making a hoax threat of a mass shooting at a community college
ďIn March 2017 he sent false information to police and local news outlets about s pending mass shooting at Redlands Comm. College in the OKC suburb of El RenoĒ

Remarks, this is a just sentence that sends a message to potential mass shooters what their actions will bring them - a lengthy stay at a maximum-security prison
I see it that the awareness of the epidemic is there & is being treated with the most exacting standards allowed under law - as it is the investigation into the phony threats cost $30,000

Itís a screwy world alright

 

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