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  posted on 1/17/2020 at 10:14 AM
That is probably about as close as you are gonna get.
 

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  posted on 1/17/2020 at 11:08 AM
A story out of Madison Wisc. demonstrates the difficulty of getting a handle on gun violence in schools
In this case, the system worked - for the most part
Itís an informative thought-provoking read describing the whole process, especially the purchase of the gun - headline,
Man Sentenced For Buying ĎNew School Shooter Guní For Boy

Hesitated to post this......worth looking up IMHO

[Edited on 1/17/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 1/17/2020 at 03:17 PM
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A story out of Madison Wisc . . .


Yep, the mean streets of Madison Wisconsin! The urban blight of Columbine! The garbage-strewn bullet-riddled 'hood of Sandy Hook! The inherently flawed character of the savage layabouts of concrete jungle Parkland! The inner city Heart of Darkness of Aurora Colorado!

 

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  posted on 1/17/2020 at 05:22 PM
Drive By Truckers weigh in.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkD4xSqNVII

 

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  posted on 1/17/2020 at 05:33 PM
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Drive By Truckers weigh in.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkD4xSqNVII


Powerful good thx

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 12:59 AM
Hey Skydog32103, no comment on my reply, or the video?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 01:22 AM
Skydog, since you are a proponent of mental screening, I thought you would find this interesting.

With people pushing for mental health screening, I found a website that offers it FOR FREE. If anyone wishes to take it, do the following.
Go to the website, click on "Get A Free Screening Here" and follow the prompts. Real easy. If you find you can't pass it, please report yourself to the local authorities for your "this dummy can't even pass an on line test" badge.


https://walkthetalkamerica.org/love/

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 06:28 AM
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Hey Skydog32103, no comment on my reply, or the video?


I donít even know what comment or link you are referring to. We are so far apart on how to manage firearms so thereís truly no point.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 07:55 AM
Good morning folks - Skydog03210, take a look at that vid - itís very effective - very well done - ups to the DBT, Thoughts & Prayers speaks for all of us IMHO

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 09:28 AM
This one where you asked about why Chicago and Baltimore keep coming up in the "guncontrol" narrative.

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Thank you I think?

I think you are well aware that the right always brought up gun violence in Chicago quite a bit whenever Democrats wanted to propose ideas to stop suburban mass shootings. It was everywhere in the media and on this very site. Now it's Baltimore because Cummings was from there. I think it's a cheap way to say that Democratic leaders, like Cummings, are bad at stopping gun violence, and therefore should be dismissed when trying to propose logical common sense gun laws.

Don't mind me, I'm just watching from afar.


You are welcome.
Chicago, New York, and other Democratic held towns were often brought up since the "logical common sense gun laws" proposed were often already in effect in those towns. Hopefully it was to show that the proposed legislation didn't work there, so why did anyone think it would work elsewhere.
One of the "logical common sense gun laws" that are being proposed by some Democrat candidates is to outlaw bump stocks? Did you know that bump stocks are already illegal? Some are proposing laws to ban those convicted of domestic violence from purchasing firearms? Did you know that this is already a Federal Law?
Some propose to ban the sale of automatic weapons. That already, with conditions, falls under the National Firearms Act.
Democrats continuously propose laws that are already on the books. Many Democrats show no knowledge on what they are proposing legislation on.
It seems that they also don't realize that criminals, by the definition of the word, don't follow laws.
Take a look at this and ask yourself if you would trust legislation by people who show they don't know what they are talking about, by talking about it.
ie "heat seeking bullets" "30 caliber clip that fire 30 bullets in half a second", "its legal to hunt humans"?? "perfectly functioning weapons that fire with no ammo"

https://twitter.com/ARmastrangelo/status/968165387694235648

Click on the center of the video to hear audio.

Look at what is being called "logical common sense gun laws", compare it to what is already on the books and you will see what I'm posting about.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 10:48 AM
It seems illogical to me to link inner-city street gang violence with suburban mass shootings.

"Because gangs circumvent laws and purchase guns on the black market, then we shouldn't listen to Democrats who want to devise a way to help prevent deranged fools from purchasing firearms. If Democrats can't stop the black market, then their ideas for stopping deranged shooters won't work either." I don't have any respect for this opinion, not because it's critical of Democrats, but because it shows a lack of intelligence, in my humble opinion.

To have the only requirement be a clean criminal record, to me shows a complete disrespect towards the object.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 10:54 AM
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It seems illogical to me to link inner-city street gang violence with suburban mass shootings.

"Because gangs circumvent laws and purchase guns on the black market, then we shouldn't listen to Democrats who want to devise a way to help prevent deranged fools from purchasing firearms. If Democrats can't stop the black market, then their ideas for stopping deranged shooters won't work either." I don't have any respect for this opinion, not because it's critical of Democrats, but because it shows a lack of intelligence, in my humble opinion.

To have the only requirement be a clean criminal record, to me shows a complete disrespect towards the object.


Skydog, where did the quote come from?

And, to follow your logic, you shouldn't be able to own a vehicle if you have a good driving record.

Did anybody take the mental health test?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 02:44 PM
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And, to follow your logic, you shouldn't be able to own a vehicle if you have a good driving record.


One reason I don't have an interest in talking to you about guns is that you don't see the problem with comparing guns to other objects. Do it all you want, but please stop wasting my time.

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Did anybody take the mental health test?


I wish they had, Jerry. I wish they had.



[Edited on 1/19/2020 by Skydog32103]

 

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And, to follow your logic, you shouldn't be able to own a vehicle if you have a good driving record.


One reason I don't have an interest in talking to you about guns is that you don't see the problem with comparing guns to other objects. Do it all you want, but please stop wasting my time.

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Did anybody take the mental health test?


I wish they had, Jerry. I wish they had.

[Edited on 1/19/2020 by Skydog32103]


Still didn't answer my question since you again skirt the subject and misread what was written.

1) Did you read the post?
2) Did you watch the video?
3) Did you take the test?

Simple questions. A yes or no would be sufficient.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 08:39 PM
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Still didn't answer my question since you again skirt the subject and misread what was written.

1) Did you read the post?
2) Did you watch the video?
3) Did you take the test?

Simple questions. A yes or no would be sufficient.


Yes, I read your post. I watched as much of the video as I could stomach, and I went to the website. Do you have a point?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 08:45 PM
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"If Democrats can't stop the black market, then their ideas for stopping deranged shooters won't work either."


As long as Criminals and people with any type of Mental Health issue can circumvent existing laws by purchasing guns on the Black Market, ANY attempt at MORE laws is futile.

How many more times are we willing to hear "How in the Hell did this idiot acquire a gun"?

New methods have to be adopted, the paradigm must change. We can not as a society continue to place yet another band-aid on a wound requiring an amputation and walk around saying, "Well, at least we are doing something"

Asinine.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 09:04 PM
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New methods have to be adopted, the paradigm must change.


So then you agree with liberals.....and there's only one group refusing new methods.

 

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New methods have to be adopted, the paradigm must change.


So then you agree with liberals.....and there's only one group refusing new methods.


Please.... Enlighten us. Exactly what NEW methods and ideas is the Left offering up?

 

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Please.... Enlighten us. Exactly what NEW methods and ideas is the Left offering up?


I'll answer your questions even though you ran from mine. You agree with liberals because liberals would agree in a heartbeat to any new methods and paradigms that will help keep guns out of the hands of the deranged and incompetent. Whatever you suggest I bet liberals would support.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 10:42 PM
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Please.... Enlighten us. Exactly what NEW methods and ideas is the Left offering up?


I'll answer your questions even though you ran from mine. You agree with liberals because liberals would agree in a heartbeat to any new methods and paradigms that will help keep guns out of the hands of the deranged and incompetent. Whatever you suggest I bet liberals would support.


What NEW methods and ideas is the Left offering up?

2nd time

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 10:50 PM
Liberals also want a new paradigm, right?
 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 10:57 PM
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Liberals also want a new paradigm, right?


Tough question?

What NEW methods and ideas is the Left offering up?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 11:12 PM
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We can not as a society continue to place yet another band-aid on a wound requiring an amputation


In your gun control analogy, what is the wound that needs amputation?

 

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We can not as a society continue to place yet another band-aid on a wound requiring an amputation


In your gun control analogy, what is the wound that needs amputation?


What NEW methods and ideas is the Left offering up?

 

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  posted on 1/20/2020 at 07:02 AM
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What NEW methods and ideas is the Left offering up?


My only point is that you and liberals both want a new paradigm - if you need to explore that further with somebody, good luck.

 
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