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  posted on 8/13/2019 at 09:44 AM
Hi there,

After reading the post and link about Duane's Goldtop selling for over a million bucks, I kept scrolling and found this gem:

https://www.al.com/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/01/b3d526daaa4355/an-overlook ed-southernrock-ban.html

One of my favorite bands was ARS, and spun alot of their records when I would wear out the Brothers.
Gotta wonder what Dickey's "Goldie" (now red?), and Barry Bailey's screaming Deluxe would bring on the market.

A fine promo story and once I read the book I'll send in a review!

Boogie Smoggie everybody!

 
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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 03:08 PM
Great band with some great songs. Loved Ronnie Hammond and the guitarists were so smooth. I got to see Ronnie solo in the 1980s and then ARS a couple times with 3 of the 5 originals in the early 90s. They put on great shows.

A few of my favorites, beyond the radio hits:

Alien:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHvTXJzNpTk

Angel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_-D820hNUs


Large Time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kFAnjJpdHw

Homesick (regional hit):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNMT01E28MU

Silver Eagle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O3-Viwk6zU


 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 03:19 PM
I remember Imaginary Lover and So into You from the radio when I was a kid. I thought they were more 70s soft rock / pop than I would have considered them southern rock.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 03:31 PM
Their radio hits were mellow, but ARS rocked. Worth revisiting

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 03:32 PM
Lee - go listen Large Time and Homesick. And jams in the back half of of Alien and Angel. They weren't one thing, but part of what they were was definitely southern rock.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 03:45 PM
And Georgia Rhythm is one of their more well known songs. Country, pop, southern rock...really a combo.

It's one of my all time favorite songs and brings back very fond memories of my childhood when my older brothers gave ARS plenty of airplay in our house:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWRuhsWmSWY

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 03:56 PM
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Lee - go listen Large Time and Homesick. And jams in the back half of of Alien and Angel. They weren't one thing, but part of what they were was definitely southern rock.


I'll give them a spin. Maybe the songs I recall were "radio friendly", sort of like Ramblin' Man for The ABB.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 04:33 PM
ARS was AWSOME! Saw them a bunch of times in Atlanta. Rusty said here once that Baily's guitar solo / outro on Angel reminded him of David Gilmour. I had never thought of making such a comparison until he said it. He was spot on.

I have an Allman / ARS related story. In the early 80s Gregg Allman's solo band was frequently in the Atlanta area and I would go every single time. Once I heard at the last minute he was playing in Gainesville, GA with Ronnie Hammond's solo band opening. I got tickets and headed to Gainesville. It was General Admission and I worried about good seats as it was a pretty big arena like a small omni.

We get there and there were hardly any people there. A few hundred in a place that held at least 3,000. I felt a little sick to my stomach about that but hey we got really great seats! Ronnie Hammond was pretty good. Played a lot of ARS of course. Then Gregg comes out. I am pumped! Just as Gregg hit the stage Ronnie Hammond comes out to the Row of seats directly in front of us and takes a seat someone had been saving for him. So he is sitting literally right in front of me. I didn't care much though because Gregg was about to play to a few hundred people and I was one of them. I had seen this show a lot of times and figured I knew what to expect. Except Gregg was drinking heavily. A clear liquid I figured was tequila as there limes involved. right out in front of the world making no secrets about it. He is clearly not pleased with the small size of the crowd. And the crowd wasn't helping. Pretty quiet for 2 or 3 songs. So Ronnie gets up about 4 songs in and "Storms" the stage with both hands waving in the air like a teenage girl at a Beatles concert. Pretty quick others followed and the crowd starts to get lively and make a little noise. Gregg had a birds eye view of what Ronnie was doing and he looks square at Ronnie, chuckles a little and shakes his head like, "what the heck is wrong with you dude?"

It got lively for a bit but Gregg kept on drinking that clear stuff and it became apparent he was drunk. I had seen Gregg a lot with the Brothers and solo but had never seen him this impaired before. What was really cool though was he broke what had been the recently standard set list and comes out after a break with an acoustic guitar. He and Dan played Melissa and it was really good. Then Dan leaves the stage and Gregg played Come & Go Blues solo. It wasn't perfect but it was real good and the first time I had seen him play either of those songs live. I recorded the Come & Go Blues on a cassette. Unfortunately another member on this site (who hasn't posted in a real long time) borrowed but never returned the tape.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 04:39 PM
J. R. Cobb was in the pop rock band The Classics 4. He wrote a couple of hits for them and ARS recording them too and they w dr e Hits for them too. I saw ARS a couple of times. Good show and Bailey's lead guitar was powerful at times. He liked to peel off those harmonic/squeals with his pick a lot when I saw them. Billy Gibbons does it a lot on Lagrange.

I doubt Dickey's Gold Top painted red, a 1957, or Bailey's Gold Top would bring much more than 300 thousand. Dickey's SG just brought over 500 thousand but Graham Nash was the owner and it was because Duane played it.

Duane Allman managed to get in the same level.of guitar God as Clapton, Hendrix, David Gilmore, B. B. King, Robert Johnson, Eddie Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughn etc. No other guitar player in the ABB rose to that level. Perhaps Dickey would have if he had stayed in the band until the end..2014.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 05:28 PM
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No other guitar player in the ABB rose to that level. Perhaps Dickey would have if he had stayed in the band until the end..2014.
You are correct but a lot of DB's best work was while Duane was still alive. His solos on LAFE are incredible but to the casual fan it is all Duane as they don't know who played which solos. I heard DB elude to this in an interview. Not his words but basically he was saying a lot of people give Duane credit for some of DB's best solos.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 05:36 PM
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Their radio hits were mellow, but ARS rocked. Worth revisiting


Agreed. That being said, listening to their radio hits, I feel a more Rocking vibe now. Friends of mine from those days say the same thing. Here's to great minds! And to the ARS!

 

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  posted on 8/15/2019 at 05:17 PM
KC Jimmy. You are correct. Back when I became a huge fan of the original lineup, casual fans often who owned At Fillmore East album as word of mouth spread about what a fantastic live album it is, when I encountered several, they thought Duane played everything and Dickey was rhythm guitar or they had never heard of Dickey. I remember one casual fan in 1972 who owned Fillmore that Duane sang on those songs too.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2019 at 11:11 AM
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I doubt Dickey's Gold Top painted red, a 1957, or Bailey's Gold Top would bring much more than 300 thousand. Dickey's SG just brought over 500 thousand but Graham Nash was the owner and it was because Duane played it.

Duane Allman managed to get in the same level.of guitar God as Clapton, Hendrix, David Gilmore, B. B. King, Robert Johnson, Eddie Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughn etc. No other guitar player in the ABB rose to that level. Perhaps Dickey would have if he had stayed in the band until the end..2014.


It is a very good sounding les paul... however it is not from the early days of the brothers... I think Dickey got it in the mid to late 80's. He did play the crap out of it during the 90's for sure. One thing about Dickey & his guitars is that you never see one come up for resale... they consider them family instruments & some day I am sure we will see Duane playing it as well. ( I sure hope so)

I remember seeing Dickey play a gig in the 2000's & he was playing one of the reissues Gibson did & towards the end of the night he brought out the original goldie/redtop. The difference in tone was enormous...

 

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  posted on 8/16/2019 at 09:32 PM
Hi redbouse1969. Dickey said in an interview some years ago he bought Goldie at a pawn shop in New York City in 1974. Dickey played a ES 335 when the ABB formed and he also had a 61 SG he later gave to Duane and it recently sold for over 500 thousand dollars when Graham Nash put it up for auction. Graham's wife bought it from the guy Gregg gave it to after Duane died.

Dickey played a Stratocaster often in late 1969 to spring 1970 plus the SG in summer of 1970 when he decided to move to a Les Paul because he liked what Duane was getting out of his. I think Dickey got his first Les Paul in Detroit in 1970 but he didnt take to it and got several Les Paul guitars until he settled on Goldie in 1974. Dickey was playing a Goldtop that had red added to the finish on Fillmore East and later gave it to Dan Toler who played it for about 10 years then sold it to a collector in Japan. By mid 1971 Dickey had another Goldtop and it's on OWO on Eat A Peach. Great tone. When Brothers and Sisters came out Dickey was playing a sunburst Les Paul with zebra pickups. It was a very pretty guitar and when I noticed Goldie I ask the sound man why Dickey quit that pretty guitar with the zebra pickups he said Dickey found a guitar he likes much better plus that pretty guitar was hard to keep in tune. Apparently back in the 50's and 60's some Les Pauls were fantastic with big fat humbucker tones and others were not great guitars. It was hit and miss. Dickey said he thought it was the wood. When you got one made out of real fine wood and the wood was aged and real dry, that is when you found a really good Les Paul.

In 1994 Dickey reportedly got frustrated with Gibson for ignoring him and suddenly switched to a Paul Reed Smith then to a 61 red ES-335 and a 1956 tobacco burst Stratocaster and a yellow Stratocaster. Duane Betts uses the 335 and the 56 Strat now plus a 2001 Dickey Betts signature Les Paul Goldtop. From 1994 to 2000 when Dickey wasn't using a Les Paul much Goldie was given to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and while it sat there for several years, it turned an ugly green. Dickey took it back and sanded it down and repainted it but decided on red. And yes Dickey began playing it again occasionally.

 

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  posted on 8/17/2019 at 08:25 PM
If anyone still vines or is interested in an absolutely smokin ARS show, this vine is old but it is good, because Brewster has it, Link is worth checking, theres a lot of love for Atlanta Rhythm Section there, rave review by Arlene, good stuff

https://allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&f ile=viewthread&tid=136476

Or send me a pm if vining doesn't work, I will be happy to share the ARS goodness, can send out a couple disks


[Edited on 8/19/2019 by BrerRabbit]

 
 


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