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  posted on 8/13/2019 at 12:07 PM
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Casual fans are at best a necessary evil, and it is unfortunate that the band had to be aware of / cater to some of what has been discussed above. I know exactly why I went to ABB shows, and it wasn't to see Midnight Rider or Melissa every time. It's hard to make me forget what planet I am on in a three minute song.

I guess my point is: "If you have a short attention span, maybe an ABB show isn't for you."


Nice post....right there with you.

It would be interesting to see a poll of people that attended ABB shows ,oh lets say over the last 10-12 yrs, that are casual to the hardcore. My guess it's gonna lean more towards the hardcore.

I remember ,I think it was maybe 2004 or 06, I was at an ABB show and a few guys came down by me about half way through the show. It looked like they just walked off the golf course and had a few drinks.
One leaned over and ask me which one was Dickey Betts. Could not resist, and pointed to Otiel.

Some bands for the last few decades is all they play are hits that cater to a certain demographic in the crowd which are probably the majority.

Here is an example.
I enjoy John Mellencamp live, but he is so much more than his 80's hits, and that is a good part of his setlist.
We went and saw him a few months ago....same old show. Really was not expecting anything different ,but anyways. Probably won't be back to see him for awhile. I feel some of his strongest material is from the last 12-15 yrs. Would kill to hear a show of that stuff.....but it ain't gonna happen.

Govt Mule? Probably no such thing as a casual fan out there.

On the topic of setlists ,casual ,and hardcore fans.....
I am a huge Deep Purple and UFO fan. Maybe at one time they could have been considered a band that would play the classics ,hits for the most part and that would cater to the majority of the crowd which probably were the casual fan years ago.

I doubt there are any casual fans going to see those two bands in this current era . I think they have gotten a little better with their setlists as far as mixing in different songs. But for awhile, I was thinking why?? Why the same old material? I doubt they are winning new fans at this point, so why not go more deep,rotate some of those deep gems in for the hardcore folks? I would be thrilled to death of they would drop in at least 3-5 deep ones. I won't be going to the beer stand at that point and I am sure others won't be either.

I remember attending many ABB shows in the early to mid 90's..Warren and Woody era. All were great, no doubt but the sets were getting pretty repeatitive. In 1997 I was them with Jack and Otiel and during that show in Indy and there 2-3 songs that I have not heard in concert before or it had been awhile and it was a treat.


Totally agree with you about Mule. It took me a bit to get them but I have loved them for years. Don't think there are too many casual fans.

Regarding UFO, I've never heard of them. What are their classics?


What!?!?! You don't know who the mighty UFO!?!? Blasphemy!!!!!

Just kidding Matt and a few others summed them up pretty good.. I am a HUGE fan and can hook you up with about anything and everything them and MSG.

It was mentioned, but Strangers In The Night is highly regarded as one of the best live rock albums out there. That would be a good place to start.

From the Paul Chapman era a good compilation would be Best Of The Rest. His time in the band is looked over , but I like it just as much as the Schenker stuff.

Vinnie Moore is in the band now. They still put out quality material.There last release was two years ago and it was a cover compilation called The Salentino Cuts. I think Phil Moog is very underrated singer and I feel he gives one of his best vocal performance on that cd. They are currently on they're last tour.Phil is calling it a day.

Michael Schenkers 2nd release,MSG, is probably my favorite hard rock albums . That thing is so solid top to bottom, not a bad track. Live At Budokan would be a good one from him to start with.

One of my top UFO tracks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jwxipYRhou8



they are such an underrated band. it was nice a few weeks ago that UFO was blaring before iron maiden came onstage . sure iron maiden picked them to be over the sound system on purpose

 

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  posted on 8/13/2019 at 01:41 PM
I was reading about UFO on Allmusic today, and one reviewer argued that UFO's Phill Mogg was a clear influence on Iron Maiden's Paul Dianno.
 

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  posted on 8/13/2019 at 02:41 PM
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Casual fans are at best a necessary evil, and it is unfortunate that the band had to be aware of / cater to some of what has been discussed above. I know exactly why I went to ABB shows, and it wasn't to see Midnight Rider or Melissa every time. It's hard to make me forget what planet I am on in a three minute song.

I guess my point is: "If you have a short attention span, maybe an ABB show isn't for you."


Nice post....right there with you.

It would be interesting to see a poll of people that attended ABB shows ,oh lets say over the last 10-12 yrs, that are casual to the hardcore. My guess it's gonna lean more towards the hardcore.

I remember ,I think it was maybe 2004 or 06, I was at an ABB show and a few guys came down by me about half way through the show. It looked like they just walked off the golf course and had a few drinks.
One leaned over and ask me which one was Dickey Betts. Could not resist, and pointed to Otiel.

Some bands for the last few decades is all they play are hits that cater to a certain demographic in the crowd which are probably the majority.

Here is an example.
I enjoy John Mellencamp live, but he is so much more than his 80's hits, and that is a good part of his setlist.
We went and saw him a few months ago....same old show. Really was not expecting anything different ,but anyways. Probably won't be back to see him for awhile. I feel some of his strongest material is from the last 12-15 yrs. Would kill to hear a show of that stuff.....but it ain't gonna happen.

Govt Mule? Probably no such thing as a casual fan out there.

On the topic of setlists ,casual ,and hardcore fans.....
I am a huge Deep Purple and UFO fan. Maybe at one time they could have been considered a band that would play the classics ,hits for the most part and that would cater to the majority of the crowd which probably were the casual fan years ago.

I doubt there are any casual fans going to see those two bands in this current era . I think they have gotten a little better with their setlists as far as mixing in different songs. But for awhile, I was thinking why?? Why the same old material? I doubt they are winning new fans at this point, so why not go more deep,rotate some of those deep gems in for the hardcore folks? I would be thrilled to death of they would drop in at least 3-5 deep ones. I won't be going to the beer stand at that point and I am sure others won't be either.

I remember attending many ABB shows in the early to mid 90's..Warren and Woody era. All were great, no doubt but the sets were getting pretty repeatitive. In 1997 I was them with Jack and Otiel and during that show in Indy and there 2-3 songs that I have not heard in concert before or it had been awhile and it was a treat.


Totally agree with you about Mule. It took me a bit to get them but I have loved them for years. Don't think there are too many casual fans.

Regarding UFO, I've never heard of them. What are their classics?


What!?!?! You don't know who the mighty UFO!?!? Blasphemy!!!!!

Just kidding Matt and a few others summed them up pretty good.. I am a HUGE fan and can hook you up with about anything and everything them and MSG.

It was mentioned, but Strangers In The Night is highly regarded as one of the best live rock albums out there. That would be a good place to start.

From the Paul Chapman era a good compilation would be Best Of The Rest. His time in the band is looked over , but I like it just as much as the Schenker stuff.

Vinnie Moore is in the band now. They still put out quality material.There last release was two years ago and it was a cover compilation called The Salentino Cuts. I think Phil Moog is very underrated singer and I feel he gives one of his best vocal performance on that cd. They are currently on they're last tour.Phil is calling it a day.

Michael Schenkers 2nd release,MSG, is probably my favorite hard rock albums . That thing is so solid top to bottom, not a bad track. Live At Budokan would be a good one from him to start with.

One of my top UFO tracks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jwxipYRhou8



they are such an underrated band. it was nice a few weeks ago that UFO was blaring before iron maiden came onstage . sure iron maiden picked them to be over the sound system on purpose


I think Steve and the band are big fans

Steve Harris On Why Iron Maiden Opens Shows With UFO Music

http://www.vh1.com/video-clips/jlf59m/that-metal-show-steve-harris-on-why-i ron-maiden-opens-shows-with-ufo-music

[Edited on 8/13/2019 by jszfunk]

 

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  posted on 8/13/2019 at 02:49 PM
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Casual fans are at best a necessary evil, and it is unfortunate that the band had to be aware of / cater to some of what has been discussed above. I know exactly why I went to ABB shows, and it wasn't to see Midnight Rider or Melissa every time. It's hard to make me forget what planet I am on in a three minute song.

I guess my point is: "If you have a short attention span, maybe an ABB show isn't for you."


Nice post....right there with you.

It would be interesting to see a poll of people that attended ABB shows ,oh lets say over the last 10-12 yrs, that are casual to the hardcore. My guess it's gonna lean more towards the hardcore.

I remember ,I think it was maybe 2004 or 06, I was at an ABB show and a few guys came down by me about half way through the show. It looked like they just walked off the golf course and had a few drinks.
One leaned over and ask me which one was Dickey Betts. Could not resist, and pointed to Otiel.

Some bands for the last few decades is all they play are hits that cater to a certain demographic in the crowd which are probably the majority.

Here is an example.
I enjoy John Mellencamp live, but he is so much more than his 80's hits, and that is a good part of his setlist.
We went and saw him a few months ago....same old show. Really was not expecting anything different ,but anyways. Probably won't be back to see him for awhile. I feel some of his strongest material is from the last 12-15 yrs. Would kill to hear a show of that stuff.....but it ain't gonna happen.

Govt Mule? Probably no such thing as a casual fan out there.

On the topic of setlists ,casual ,and hardcore fans.....
I am a huge Deep Purple and UFO fan. Maybe at one time they could have been considered a band that would play the classics ,hits for the most part and that would cater to the majority of the crowd which probably were the casual fan years ago.

I doubt there are any casual fans going to see those two bands in this current era . I think they have gotten a little better with their setlists as far as mixing in different songs. But for awhile, I was thinking why?? Why the same old material? I doubt they are winning new fans at this point, so why not go more deep,rotate some of those deep gems in for the hardcore folks? I would be thrilled to death of they would drop in at least 3-5 deep ones. I won't be going to the beer stand at that point and I am sure others won't be either.

I remember attending many ABB shows in the early to mid 90's..Warren and Woody era. All were great, no doubt but the sets were getting pretty repeatitive. In 1997 I was them with Jack and Otiel and during that show in Indy and there 2-3 songs that I have not heard in concert before or it had been awhile and it was a treat.


Totally agree with you about Mule. It took me a bit to get them but I have loved them for years. Don't think there are too many casual fans.

Regarding UFO, I've never heard of them. What are their classics?


What!?!?! You don't know who the mighty UFO!?!? Blasphemy!!!!!

Just kidding Matt and a few others summed them up pretty good.. I am a HUGE fan and can hook you up with about anything and everything them and MSG.

It was mentioned, but Strangers In The Night is highly regarded as one of the best live rock albums out there. That would be a good place to start.

From the Paul Chapman era a good compilation would be Best Of The Rest. His time in the band is looked over , but I like it just as much as the Schenker stuff.

Vinnie Moore is in the band now. They still put out quality material.There last release was two years ago and it was a cover compilation called The Salentino Cuts. I think Phil Moog is very underrated singer and I feel he gives one of his best vocal performance on that cd. They are currently on they're last tour.Phil is calling it a day.

Michael Schenkers 2nd release,MSG, is probably my favorite hard rock albums . That thing is so solid top to bottom, not a bad track. Live At Budokan would be a good one from him to start with.

One of my top UFO tracks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jwxipYRhou8



they are such an underrated band. it was nice a few weeks ago that UFO was blaring before iron maiden came onstage . sure iron maiden picked them to be over the sound system on purpose


I think Steve and the band are big fans

Steve Harris On Why Iron Maiden Opens Shows With UFO Music

http://www.vh1.com/video-clips/jlf59m/that-metal-show-steve-harris-on-why-i ron-maiden-opens-shows-with-ufo-music

Steve's daughter does a cover
Lauren Harris - Natural Thing
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Zw9IYYZHg8purpose



Iron Maiden- Doctor Doctor
https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-ql9C_itQw

[Edited on 8/13/2019 by jszfunk]

 

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  posted on 8/13/2019 at 04:05 PM
yup i knew they covered UFO too
 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 06:05 AM
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Gov't Mule has lost the spark over the last 4 or 5ve years----since Farmer passed!?!?!?---and latest live set proves it.


Wow. Your opinion but I disagree. They have always mixed things up and I have seen them several times in the time frame you mention. I really don't think they have lost it or anything.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2019 at 06:08 AM
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Casual fans are at best a necessary evil, and it is unfortunate that the band had to be aware of / cater to some of what has been discussed above. I know exactly why I went to ABB shows, and it wasn't to see Midnight Rider or Melissa every time. It's hard to make me forget what planet I am on in a three minute song.

I guess my point is: "If you have a short attention span, maybe an ABB show isn't for you."


Nice post....right there with you.

It would be interesting to see a poll of people that attended ABB shows ,oh lets say over the last 10-12 yrs, that are casual to the hardcore. My guess it's gonna lean more towards the hardcore.

I remember ,I think it was maybe 2004 or 06, I was at an ABB show and a few guys came down by me about half way through the show. It looked like they just walked off the golf course and had a few drinks.
One leaned over and ask me which one was Dickey Betts. Could not resist, and pointed to Otiel.

Some bands for the last few decades is all they play are hits that cater to a certain demographic in the crowd which are probably the majority.

Here is an example.
I enjoy John Mellencamp live, but he is so much more than his 80's hits, and that is a good part of his setlist.
We went and saw him a few months ago....same old show. Really was not expecting anything different ,but anyways. Probably won't be back to see him for awhile. I feel some of his strongest material is from the last 12-15 yrs. Would kill to hear a show of that stuff.....but it ain't gonna happen.

Govt Mule? Probably no such thing as a casual fan out there.

On the topic of setlists ,casual ,and hardcore fans.....
I am a huge Deep Purple and UFO fan. Maybe at one time they could have been considered a band that would play the classics ,hits for the most part and that would cater to the majority of the crowd which probably were the casual fan years ago.

I doubt there are any casual fans going to see those two bands in this current era . I think they have gotten a little better with their setlists as far as mixing in different songs. But for awhile, I was thinking why?? Why the same old material? I doubt they are winning new fans at this point, so why not go more deep,rotate some of those deep gems in for the hardcore folks? I would be thrilled to death of they would drop in at least 3-5 deep ones. I won't be going to the beer stand at that point and I am sure others won't be either.

I remember attending many ABB shows in the early to mid 90's..Warren and Woody era. All were great, no doubt but the sets were getting pretty repeatitive. In 1997 I was them with Jack and Otiel and during that show in Indy and there 2-3 songs that I have not heard in concert before or it had been awhile and it was a treat.


Totally agree with you about Mule. It took me a bit to get them but I have loved them for years. Don't think there are too many casual fans.

Regarding UFO, I've never heard of them. What are their classics?


What!?!?! You don't know who the mighty UFO!?!? Blasphemy!!!!!

Just kidding Matt and a few others summed them up pretty good.. I am a HUGE fan and can hook you up with about anything and everything them and MSG.

It was mentioned, but Strangers In The Night is highly regarded as one of the best live rock albums out there. That would be a good place to start.

From the Paul Chapman era a good compilation would be Best Of The Rest. His time in the band is looked over , but I like it just as much as the Schenker stuff.

Vinnie Moore is in the band now. They still put out quality material.There last release was two years ago and it was a cover compilation called The Salentino Cuts. I think Phil Moog is very underrated singer and I feel he gives one of his best vocal performance on that cd. They are currently on they're last tour.Phil is calling it a day.

Michael Schenkers 2nd release,MSG, is probably my favorite hard rock albums . That thing is so solid top to bottom, not a bad track. Live At Budokan would be a good one from him to start with.

One of my top UFO tracks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jwxipYRhou8


MSG. What is the connection to Madison Square Garden?

And I might take you up on some shows.

 

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