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  posted on 12/2/2019 at 05:01 PM
Living in Chicago, I obviously have to read / watch / hear delusional Bears fans talk about their team. I must chuckle when I read / watch / hear folks talk about the Bears going to the playoffs.

They are 6-6. Their remaining schedule:

Cowboys
@ Packers
Chiefs
@ Vikings

They have two teams they have to pass. I think they could be three games back after tonight if I am looking at it correctly.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2019 at 09:11 AM
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Living in Chicago, I obviously have to read / watch / hear delusional Bears fans talk about their team. I must chuckle when I read / watch / hear folks talk about the Bears going to the playoffs.

They are 6-6. Their remaining schedule:

Cowboys
@ Packers
Chiefs
@ Vikings

They have two teams they have to pass. I think they could be three games back after tonight if I am looking at it correctly.

If the Bears's defense woke up, they could maybe take 3 of those games - Dallas is certainly mortal and division games are often a toss up. But that still keeps them behind the other 2 Wild Cards, most likely. I'm not surprised they took a step back this year, Chicago is itching for the Bears to be good again.

Speaking of Wild Cards, the 49ers and Seahawks are neck and neck in the West, and Seattle has the slightly easier schedule and already a head-to-head win. Slightly more exciting division race than the NFC East...

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 05:46 AM
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Living in Chicago, I obviously have to read / watch / hear delusional Bears fans talk about their team. I must chuckle when I read / watch / hear folks talk about the Bears going to the playoffs.

They are 6-6. Their remaining schedule:

Cowboys
@ Packers
Chiefs
@ Vikings

They have two teams they have to pass. I think they could be three games back after tonight if I am looking at it correctly.

If the Bears's defense woke up, they could maybe take 3 of those games - Dallas is certainly mortal and division games are often a toss up. But that still keeps them behind the other 2 Wild Cards, most likely. I'm not surprised they took a step back this year, Chicago is itching for the Bears to be good again.

Speaking of Wild Cards, the 49ers and Seahawks are neck and neck in the West, and Seattle has the slightly easier schedule and already a head-to-head win. Slightly more exciting division race than the NFC East...


I agree with you about the Bears defense not being as good as say, last year, but should you really have to rely THAT much on your D to score? Their offense has been rather anemic to say the least. They can't run and Trubiskey just isn't that good.

I don't know what to make of your Packers. I haven't seen the consistency out of them. That SF game was brutal.

The NFC West is the best division in the league. Kind of a shame either SF or Seattle has to play that first weekend.

NFC East: Unreal. At the moment I think Dallas would get a home game against a team with four more wins than them just because they won their division. I think a couple of times a team has gotten into the playoffs with a losing record. I don't know if Dallas can pull that off but they are pretty darn close.

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 09:25 AM
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I agree with you about the Bears defense not being as good as say, last year, but should you really have to rely THAT much on your D to score? Their offense has been rather anemic to say the least. They can't run and Trubiskey just isn't that good.

I don't know what to make of your Packers. I haven't seen the consistency out of them. That SF game was brutal.

The NFC West is the best division in the league. Kind of a shame either SF or Seattle has to play that first weekend.

NFC East: Unreal. At the moment I think Dallas would get a home game against a team with four more wins than them just because they won their division. I think a couple of times a team has gotten into the playoffs with a losing record. I don't know if Dallas can pull that off but they are pretty darn close.

Maybe Trubby isn't that good, or maybe he just needs a little more time. Teams seem quick to quit on decent QBs as if they are going to find a Rodgers or a Brady sitting on their bench (which is, to be fair, where they were both found...)

Packers are still young and rebuilding. The team had a complete overhaul and I don't think anyone expected them to have such a solid record so quickly. But their O-line and secondary needs an update. SF is just a year ahead on their rebuild. A lot of teams that are in their first year of rebuilding benefit from a soft schedule.

Seattle was the first 7-9 team to win their division, in 2010 I think? And they won a playoff game. I think there was a 7-9 Panthers NFC South champ one year too maybe? I still think a division winner should make the playoffs, but only host if they have a winning record.

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 06:15 PM
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I still think a division winner should make the playoffs, but only host if they have a winning record.


Interesting. So if a division winner is 9-7 say and a wildcard team is 12-4 would you give the 9-7 team home field? I actually think this can happen this year. Does one potential wildcard team try to beat out the other so they get home field? Tie breakers? I'm sure the NFL would figure that out.

It's a good conversation. Kind of like baseball trying to incentivize teams to win their division so they don't have to play that one game do or die thing.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2019 at 09:29 AM
Leave it to the Cowboys to make Trubby look like Sid Luckman. Even if the Cowboys still win the East, I'd be very surprised if Garrett survives in Dallas.
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So if a division winner is 9-7 say and a wildcard team is 12-4 would you give the 9-7 team home field? I actually think this can happen this year.

It absolutely will now, more likely an 8-8 team at best. The Eagles could very easily take back the division. But 9-7 is still a winning record. Home field is definitely an advantage, but if you're 12-4 Wild Card team you should be able to beat a 9-7 team even on the road.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2019 at 09:46 AM
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The Eagles could very easily take back the division.


"Very Easily"....Didn't they just lose to the Dolphins?

 

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  posted on 12/6/2019 at 10:18 AM
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The Eagles could very easily take back the division.

"Very Easily"....Didn't they just lose to the Dolphins?

That's exactly the point [slow clap], the Cowboys are spiraling that quickly after a tough stretch of games. But the Eagles only have division games remaining and are only a game behind the Cowboys.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2019 at 10:33 AM
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the Cowboys are spiraling


OK, but didn't the Eagles just lose to the Dolphins ?

 

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  posted on 12/6/2019 at 12:47 PM
W/lowly NYG in town Monday it’d seem Phila would pull into the tie w/Dallas
However Eli Manning is back in the saddle, never know if or how the return of an old veteran like that might spur on a team

How the Pats played in the late stages in Houston will carry over to KC game - they’ll know Balt-Buff outcome & urgency will be there

[Edited on 12/6/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 12/9/2019 at 12:47 PM
Crazy game in the dome yesterday, came down to which ever team had it last. SF has put themselves ahead of Seattle in the Division and New Orleans in the conference.

Meanwhile, the other great game, New England got hosed by the refs. 2 touchdowns taken off the board by the zebras. It has not been a great year for NFL officiating.

And don't look now but somehow the Steelers are in the playoff race.

 

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  posted on 12/9/2019 at 01:39 PM
Hosed or not the Pats stink. Can't beat a division winner in the AFC and you ain't got a chance. Worst 10-3 team I've ever seen. Jeez, they look like the Bears.
 

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  posted on 12/9/2019 at 02:01 PM
D is still top-rated in the league tho - easy one next week w/Cincy, also Buff-Pitts
A one-game lead going into the Buff game would be pivotal - some rough stretches in the last 2 games yes, but still think Pats will win div & go deep in playoffs

 

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  posted on 12/11/2019 at 02:20 AM
If you have to cheat to beat the Bengals, you should be suspended for about 5 years.

Patriots' Bill Belichick denies involvement with videographer caught taping Bengals' sideline
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28265914/patriots-bill-belichick-denies -involvement-videographer-caught-taping-bengals-sideline

 

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  posted on 12/11/2019 at 11:49 AM
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Hosed or not the Pats stink. Can't beat a division winner in the AFC and you ain't got a chance. Worst 10-3 team I've ever seen. Jeez, they look like the Bears.


Dang, that's pretty sour, I think the Patriot's recent success has spoiled you a bit. Lions fans would give you their Ford truck for a 10-3 record. Enjoy watching Brady while he's on the field. It's all about when you peak. Playoff rematches are always a different game.

 

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  posted on 12/11/2019 at 12:40 PM
Yeah, kinda spoiled. Though I go back to the late 60's with this team. I agree rematches are a different animal and Bill tunes them up to peak in January.Maybe I am a bit sour on them. I just can't see them beating KC or Baltimore. If Edelman gets hurt it's over.
 

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  posted on 12/11/2019 at 01:08 PM
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D is still top-rated in the league tho - easy one next week w/Cincy
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& that’s w/no DC too, Belichick has called the defensive alignments this season & look at the results
Cincy won their 1st 2 weeks ago, & outplayed Browns in every statistical category except final score Sunday.....
May not be as easy as 1st thought - Pats will have to be sharp - still, improving Bungles team & all, guessing Pats will have a lotta fans there & will return at 11-3

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  posted on 12/15/2019 at 10:23 PM
An ugly way for TB to pull within one of PManning’s career TD-pass record - missed several open receivers, 2nd straight subpar game

Belichick the 1st coach to make playoffs 11 straight seasons - 18 overall, leaving him tied for 2nd w/Tom Landry & 1 behind Don Shula - doubling as DC this season, it’s the 4th game they’ve had 4 interceptions

Now it’s Buffalo & who-know - it should all be in Pats’ wheelhouse, at home, can secure div against a much-improved ‘upstart’ opponent who want it tied at 11-4 before they leave

But they won’t - when they do depart, it will have been another Long day in Foxborough
Browns about done

[Edited on 12/16/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 12/16/2019 at 05:43 PM
Well Da Bears crapped out once again. They sure can tease Chicago fans. At least being a Lions fan, I never get my hopes up.

 

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  posted on 12/16/2019 at 06:39 PM
Just saw the thing on Josh Gordon. Really sad.

 

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  posted on 12/17/2019 at 09:27 AM
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Well Da Bears crapped out once again. They sure can tease Chicago fans. At least being a Lions fan, I never get my hopes up.

Not sure why the Bears can't turn the corner. I'd chalk it up to ownership, they've had some talent in the room and some solid coaches (no, not you, Trestman!)

NFC playoff picture is looking pretty wild - 49ers bumped into the Wild Card? If the Cowboys can carry their momentum (or even if they don't), this will be a solid set of playoff games. Seattle has been winning close games all season. Green Bay has been bending, but not breaking - not sure if they can do that against a top tier team. They need to turn their offense back on. New Orleans and San Fransisco have been pretty dominant, each with a dud game on their resume. Minnesota is still a bit of a dark horse, hard to tell if they can compete since Cousins is so hot and cold.

The separation in the AFC is a little more clear. The Ravens are the team to beat. KC is up there, their record is less impressive since Mahomes was out a couple games that he would have the difference in. New England is always going to be dangerous in the playoffs, even though everyone is waiting for the wheels to come off. Buffalo is young, but could surprise you. And then there's Houston and Pittsburgh.

 

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  posted on 12/17/2019 at 12:40 PM
Drew Brees had a good game 29-30, shredded the Colts. Ugh!

 

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  posted on 12/22/2019 at 09:27 AM
What a football day yesterday! All three NFL games were great. Houston screwed me by a half point but the Pats won me one by a half point. I knew they would go for two to get the score to a seven point spread. Would have sucked to have bet on Buffalo.

Today's schedule looks really good too. Believe it or not, Cleveland & Oakland both have really long shots at getting in the playoffs. Pittsburgh better win. Dallas / Philly? Really don't care about that one. One of those two lousy teams is going to get in. Really looking forward to the New Orleans / Tennessee game.

It's fun that these games in the last two weeks have playoff implications.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2019 at 10:23 AM
I just don't see Titans hangin' with NO

+3 seems way off.

 

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  posted on 12/23/2019 at 09:45 AM
Dallas just can't help themselves. Eagles just have to beat the Giants and the East is theirs.

Steelers did themselves no favors, and now have to go through the Ravens. Not that anyone is worried about facing Pittsburgh in January.

How about the Cardinals? Seattle's hiccup puts the 49ers back in #1.

Should be a good game tonight, we'll see what the Packers are really made of. A win tonight clinches the division and puts them back in the #2 seed. Either way, the NFC playoffs is looking pretty competetive, especially if the Eagles have their sh1t together.

 

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