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  posted on 7/22/2019 at 12:56 PM
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Too many posters assumed I was taking up for Trump. That's where the reading comprehension remarks came from. They obviously didn't read the posts as written, but as they wanted to see them, as support for Trump. Those that did so responded on a false assumption.

Everyone who came back with, I guess I'll have to use a childish response, "snotty" posts, needs to go back and re-read the posts and maybe they will understand what I was saying this time.


Remember, that just because you don't trash Trump doesn't mean you like his ways of doing some things, or support him in all things.


If you go back and read your posts, you’ll also see how multiple people understandably took it the other way. It’s important to be very clear about a topic like this one.

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PS: Did you infer that Obama was a court jester?


of course not. but I’ve heard trump and countless supporters justify his abuse and harassment by pointing the finger at other public figure clowns.

 

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i learned recently about many neighborhoods similar to that of Port Richmond and Kensington In Philadelphia. In the 50s and 60s, these neighborhoods were thriving blue collar factory towns. Like clockwork, at 5:30am, the factory whistles would sound off, and the streets were flooded with workers walking to be factory. They all had homes, cars, vacations, and livlihood. Then the factories all closed in subsequent decades, forcing the families to become unemployed, forgotten, and addicted to opioids. These generations gave birth to opioid addicted children, which ultimately lead to these neighborhoods converting into ghettos.

I understand if these families vote for Trump. They have a reason to shake things up. I understand if similar families, who don’t have the skills to ascend social classes, feel forgotten and angry. But the privileged Sean Hannity types who enable this abuser in the White House can’t go play in traffic fast enough.

 

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Okay, I think Jerry was directing some his retorts to me, and the reason I did not respond as quickly as he wanted was that I have been away from home visiting my wife's 98-year-old grandmother for the weekend... not because I felt "schooled".

Jerry, all the Melania Trump references were in posts before your initial post - the ones after were trying to help you "get" the "Mattel" joke, so get off of the reading comprehension soapbox.

And yes, I agree with the poster who said that it is disgustingly patronizing to infer That Ilhan Omar does not understand why her family left Somalia, today as an adult, whether or not she had a full grasp of it when she was a child. You don't think that she would want to know and understand? Why would she be incapable of knowing these things?

Also, when has she said, "This is how things are done in Somalia, so that's how they should be done in America."? Come on, man... you're taking the bait form Trump a little too easily.

Look, Trump just can't resist the fight when it is against a person that checks all the boxes of what the racist chunk of his base would hate the most: non-white, non-male, non-christian, non-native, etc.

And... what do you think the consequences of "speaking radically" are? You never answered that one.



I guess we are going to have to start putting in "Quote from abcdefg" to keep things straight since some of this gets a little confusing when the quote may be from a post quoted from another poster.
Many of my later posts were in response to SkyDog

When did anybody say This is how things are done in Somalia?

I'm glad you said "chunk of his base" since not all of his supporters are racist. Some support him only due to their distrust of Dems and/or Clinton.

A 4 year old would not have the understanding of why something is happening, just knowing that changes have taken place. She would know second hand of what happened, that's why I said "send her back to where her family was from for a short period of time". Later, since some posters couldn't grasp what I was saying, I fleshed it out a little with "As a US Rep, she would have the backing to ask questions-pointed questions-as to why there are still reasons why Somali citizens feel the need to leave their country."
I guess some folks still don't understand-due to their racist thinking about anyone who doesn't come out and swear a blood oath to their point of view. They just knee-jerk answers to those who don't seem to support their anointed ones. (Note: Thar is an observation, not a personal attack. and not directed to you adhill.)

Most importantly, how is you grand-mother-in-law doing?




My wife's grandmother is doing pretty well for someone born in 1921. A couple "mini-strokes" last week had us worried, but I was surprised how spry she was during our visit. Thanks for asking.

I think the problem people had was that Ilhan Omar is not a child today, and she has surely made an effort to learn about an event that would have been so life-changing. It doesn't matter if she understood at the time, with a little human courtesy we can assume that she understands the difference between living in Somalia and living here.

Many Trump supporters have suggested that the four members of congress that Trump has been pissing at are attempting to import ways of living from other cultures. I have seen Republicans in TV interviews doing it, and it was suggested in this thread by BIGV. That is a patently false assertion. I wasn't suggesting that you had said it... just that this has been part of the wider argument. Sorry for not clarifying that.

 

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My wife's grandmother is doing pretty well for someone born in 1921. A couple "mini-strokes" last week had us worried, but I was surprised how spry she was during our visit. Thanks for asking.

I think the problem people had was that Ilhan Omar is not a child today, and she has surely made an effort to learn about an event that would have been so life-changing. It doesn't matter if she understood at the time, with a little human courtesy we can assume that she understands the difference between living in Somalia and living here.

Many Trump supporters have suggested that the four members of congress that Trump has been pissing at are attempting to import ways of living from other cultures. I have seen Republicans in TV interviews doing it, and it was suggested in this thread by BIGV. That is a patently false assertion. I wasn't suggesting that you had said it... just that this has been part of the wider argument. Sorry for not clarifying that.



Do you agree that if we "sent her back" for a short tour to see if there was a way she could help those left behind and under duress would be ok?

The US culture changes repeatedly, if not slowly. Many people fear quick change in the status quo. One question, are you sure it's patently false about them wanting to import ways of living from other countries?
Do you know something others don't?

Glad to hear about your wife's grandmother. My mother-in-law suffered several small strokes and seemed healthier, even got to where she would laugh at jokes, but due to conditions of the strokes she couldn't talk very well.
if she doesn't have one, and is able to respond, get her a straight talk cellphone. I'm sure she would love to hear from everybody as often as possible.

 

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Omar doesn't think the USA deserves any more respect than Al-Qaeda. That should say enough for everyone on both sides of the aisle. She is entitled to her views. I am all for free speech. She should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her.

 

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Omar doesn't think the USA deserves any more respect than Al-Qaeda. That should say enough for everyone on both sides of the aisle. She is entitled to her views.


You're likely referring to Trump's false statement regarding Omar. You are entitled to your view, just try to do some homework and make sure it's based on fact.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-proud/

 

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Omar doesn't think the USA deserves any more respect than Al-Qaeda. That should say enough for everyone on both sides of the aisle. She is entitled to her views. I am all for free speech. She should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her.


Do your own words apply to Trump? - She (substitute "he") should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her (substitute "him").

Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/ index.html

This has to be one of the most disgraceful moments for Americans to witness - A POTUS selling out our intel agencies in taking the side of Putin & Russia. So much for those who scream patriotism.


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Omar doesn't think the USA deserves any more respect than Al-Qaeda. That should say enough for everyone on both sides of the aisle. She is entitled to her views. I am all for free speech. She should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her.


Do your own words apply to Trump? - She (substitute "he") should not be in our Government with those views but that takes us back to those who elected her (substitute "him").

Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/ index.html

This has to be one of the most disgraceful moments for Americans to witness - A POTUS selling out our intel agencies in taking the side of Putin & Russia. So much for those who scream patriotism.


[Edited on 7/25/2019 by MartinD28]
Yes. My words do apply to Trump. But Trump does not hate America nor does he say things that indicates he hates America.

Look I am not an idiot and I doubt seriously that you are an idiot. Your post though suggests otherwise. DUDE Mueller has reported, he has testified. But for those who just can't accept the results of 1) The election or 2) the outcome of the "Investigation" into the election, it's over. Get used to it.

Disgraceful? Try this on for size... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3mQaHTj7ow If nothing else it will give you a good laugh.

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You're likely referring to Trump's false statement regarding Omar. You are entitled to your view, just try to do some homework and make sure it's based on fact.
No sir you are once again WRONG. I was referring to her own words..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkIgHFXvGSw Perhaps homework would good for you too?

 

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You're likely referring to Trump's false statement regarding Omar. You are entitled to your view, just try to do some homework and make sure it's based on fact.
No sir you are once again WRONG. I was referring to her own words..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkIgHFXvGSw Perhaps homework would good for you too?


You are totally misunderstanding what she says and it is explained for you in the link I provided. Try watching all 3 minutes, don't just read the cliff's notes. So I guess wrong, and you don't understand.

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In the portion of the interview in question, Omar and host Ahned Tharwat were discussing the tendency for English speakers to pronounce Arabic words with an intensity that makes the words sound more threatening than their literal definitions. The Arabic term “madrassa,” for example, simply translates to “school.” Even the names of terrorist groups, they said, sound flat when translated from Arabic. Al-Qaida, for example, means “the army.” Al Shabab means “the youth.”

Omar called it a byproduct of sensationalism in the news media that casts Muslims in a suspicious light overall. As an example of the phenomenon, Omar said she took a college course on the ideology of terrorism, and noticed that the professor pronounced Arabic words in a peculiar way.

 

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Seen it, read it again and the only conclusion I have arrived at is I wouldn't want you in our government either. Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand. But let Trump crack a pretty funny joke about having Hillary's emails sent over by Russia and the "smart ones" want to use it as evidence against him for impeachment. Don't quit your regular job dude.

So Tell me "smart one" how I am "misunderstanding" Omar's comments on Israel?




[Edited on 7/25/2019 by KCJimmy]

 

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Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand.

If you think it's hateful to say that there is a latent prejudice towards Arabic words in Western culture, then you're probably the one with the prejudice.

 

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Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand.

If you think it's hateful to say that there is a latent prejudice towards Arabic words in Western culture, then you're probably the one with the prejudice.


Porkchop, that's not a very good explanation. Could you expand on, or explain what she was saying.

Also, I still can't do my homework on your father-in-law if I don't have his name.

 

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Funny how liberals can "explain" to us idiots that even though the meaning of the words were hateful and the way they were said was hateful that we just misunderstand.

If you think it's hateful to say that there is a latent prejudice towards Arabic words in Western culture, then you're probably the one with the prejudice.


Porkchop, that's not a very good explanation. Could you expand on, or explain what she was saying.

I'm assuming you're joking, but I'll repost just in case: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-proud/

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Also, I still can't do my homework on your father-in-law if I don't have his name.

Jerry, stop trying to quantify refugee trauma so you can rationalize Trump's statements on "sending them back", which he even attempted to walk back on. Perhaps you should spend some time with refugees.

 

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My wife's grandmother is doing pretty well for someone born in 1921. A couple "mini-strokes" last week had us worried, but I was surprised how spry she was during our visit. Thanks for asking.

I think the problem people had was that Ilhan Omar is not a child today, and she has surely made an effort to learn about an event that would have been so life-changing. It doesn't matter if she understood at the time, with a little human courtesy we can assume that she understands the difference between living in Somalia and living here.

Many Trump supporters have suggested that the four members of congress that Trump has been pissing at are attempting to import ways of living from other cultures. I have seen Republicans in TV interviews doing it, and it was suggested in this thread by BIGV. That is a patently false assertion. I wasn't suggesting that you had said it... just that this has been part of the wider argument. Sorry for not clarifying that.



Do you agree that if we "sent her back" for a short tour to see if there was a way she could help those left behind and under duress would be ok?

The US culture changes repeatedly, if not slowly. Many people fear quick change in the status quo. One question, are you sure it's patently false about them wanting to import ways of living from other countries?
Do you know something others don't?

Glad to hear about your wife's grandmother. My mother-in-law suffered several small strokes and seemed healthier, even got to where she would laugh at jokes, but due to conditions of the strokes she couldn't talk very well.
if she doesn't have one, and is able to respond, get her a straight talk cellphone. I'm sure she would love to hear from everybody as often as possible.



Jerry, the suggestion of her going back as a member of congress on a fact-finding or humanitarian mission was never part of the conversation. That is not what Trump meant. The chants at the rally were not "Send her back so she can help people suffering in Somalia because we care so much for Somalians". They were just racist hate-spewing.

But sure, I support her going anywhere she needs to go in the function of her job as a member of congress.

[Side Note] The cell phone suggestion unfortunately won't help my wife's grandmother as she lived most of her life in Wellsville, Ohio, which is a coal / steel town. Despite never using tobacco, about ten years ago she had to have her larynx removed due to cancer.

 

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Jerry, the suggestion of her going back as a member of congress on a fact-finding or humanitarian mission was never part of the conversation. That is not what Trump meant. The chants at the rally were not "Send her back so she can help people suffering in Somalia because we care so much for Somalians". They were just racist hate-spewing.

But sure, I support her going anywhere she needs to go in the function of her job as a member of congress.

[Side Note] The cell phone suggestion unfortunately won't help my wife's grandmother as she lived most of her life in Wellsville, Ohio, which is a coal / steel town. Despite never using tobacco, about ten years ago she had to have her larynx removed due to cancer.


No, the chants weren't like that. Trump did not raise his hands to stop the chants as i would have expected. Then again, if he had some Dem nut case would claim he was urging them on. Myself, if he had said, folks let me get back to my speech, it could have cut it off.

Man, sorry about her needing that done. It's kind of mysterious how cancer can hit people like that. My Dad was the baby of 17. My aunts and uncles mostly died of cancer. My Dad had some cancers removed several times. Most worked either in auto related jobs or were farmers.

Is she somewhat cognizant and mobile? If so, maybe just do a video chat where she can see and hear you.
Smiles and waves can convey a lot of info.

 

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No, the chants weren't like that. Trump did not raise his hands to stop the chants as i would have expected. Then again, if he had some Dem nut case would claim he was urging them on. Myself, if he had said, folks let me get back to my speech, it could have cut it off.




Why would you have expected him to cut them off? After this much time running for office and his actions in office, this is who he is & is predictable. These were pretty much his own ideas & words earlier in that week. He instigates this rhetoric & the audicence feeds off of it. He waited 13 seconds before he began speaking.

Last election he sat idlely as the followers chanted "Lock her up" at rally after rally. This new chant = his new bumper sticker version 2 for the next election. Concept has shifted to "Send her back".

Who is really urging them on?

You'll find out what he's made of when the next several rallies occur and how he deals with it? He created it, he owns it, and it is his to perpetuate or stop.

 

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You'll find out what he's made of


You don't know by now?

 

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Ilhan Omar IS the racist in this story. Her statements on Israel, and now we learn about her statements warning that White Men are the real threat. I don't care WHERE she lives. She should not be in congress. The Freedom she enjoys here allows her to rant against the very system that offered her family a better life.

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Apparently she is safe though. Her Republican challenger has been charged with felony shoplifting. No Kidding. I didn't even know there was such a thing.

[Edited on 7/26/2019 by KCJimmy]

 

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Yeah steal enough and it is Grand Theft a felony. She is claiming she blacked out at Target. Reading the kind of things she was stealng "Cat Tick Spray" etc points to her being kookoo for koko puffs.
 

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Well, if You wanna send one back, maybe this one should go???.........Peace.........joe



Republican Danielle Stella, aiming to unseat Ilhan Omar, charged with felony

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Looks like she already got sent back - to the dark side of the moon. She is seeking asylum. Insane asylum

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Joe, I've got to agree with you on this one. If she gets "anxiety from being around people" then I hope she gets help for it, but I personally don't think she would be good for Congress until she does.
Suffering from PTSD, the charges might eventually get dropped due to mental condition.

Saying that, I haven't found anything about why she suffers from PTSD.

 

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Indeed Jerry! You were a bit more thoughtful here than myself, if this girl truly has a mental problem, some help would probably be more beneficial than punishment!........Peace........joe
 

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For sure - she filled her cart with 2000+$ of random crap and wheeled it out - thats not shoplifting thats spacetruckin.
 

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Trump does not hate America nor does he say things that indicates he hates America.


Yup. From loony liberal California, to the Democrat killing fields of Chicago to the rodent-infested streets of Baltimore, y’all love America so much it hurts. It’s so obvious!

 

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