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  posted on 6/24/2019 at 07:32 PM
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/michael-anthony-van-halen-reunion-details/

 

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  posted on 6/24/2019 at 09:30 PM
I'm surprised he would have anything to do with them, after the way they screwed him in the past.
 

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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 05:50 AM
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I'm surprised he would have anything to do with them, after the way they screwed him in the past.


Money talks and touring with VH is big $$$. It is only for the short term so I don't blame MA if they give him what he wants.

He doesn't have to interact with the brothers except on stage so why not get paid? Mick and Keef have worked this way for decades.

I talked to a few big VH fans after the last reunion tour and they said it was disappointing at best and swore they would never go to another reunion show.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 06:47 AM
Speaking of Van Halen, does anyone like the band Chickenfoot? I bought their first CD and threw it in the trash.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 08:24 AM
Jeez, I am SO disappointed! Don't get to hear Roth's completely shot vocals while he acts like a complete clown? If it were Sammy alone I might get interested.

You want to hear some great hard rock? Go see Michael Schenker.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 10:06 AM
Van Halen stopped being a band many years ago. It's all about Eddie and a little about Alex PERIOD. Nobody else.

Any other musician/singer is a hired sideman who can be blown out at any moment by Eddie. If Eddie gets annoyed with you it's over. That is why Roth, Anthony, Hagar etc leave it up to lawyers and managers to get as many Ts crossed as possible.

When I heard Sammy introduce Eddie as the greatest rock guitarist on the planet the last time I saw Sammy in the band, it looked by the look on his face it was in his contract to say that. That he didn't really believe it. I'm sure Hagar doesn't really think Eddie is the greatest rock guitar player on the planet. He knows others who are just as good or better.

Susan Tedeschi recently said in an interview that Derek Trucks is the best guitar player on the planet. She loves and is married to Derek so I'm sure she feels that in her heart. I imagine Sammy thinks Eddie is an egotistical **** . I could be wrong of course.

Anybody who does a tour with Van Halen is going for the money which should be plenty. Nothing else.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 07:20 PM
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Jeez, I am SO disappointed! Don't get to hear Roth's completely shot vocals while he acts like a complete clown? If it were Sammy alone I might get interested.

You want to hear some great hard rock? Go see Michael Schenker.


I will agree with that. Schenker is doing that "fest" thing on tour with Barden, Bonnett,McAuley, and Doogie White all on vocals. 3hrs of music. Setlists look good but the studio stuff from this project is average at best. I am a MASSIVE MSG/UFO Michael fan but disappointed in the original material being generated by this. Michael is working with Mike Voss as his collaborator and the material is very generic b level cliched 80's left over sounding. It could be much better in my opinion if he would work with each vocalist independently. Good idea live, but studio/ original ....needs help.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 07:26 PM
People can say what the want to about VH,Dave,Sammy ,etc past and present, to each they're own..I will always love them regardless.


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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 07:35 PM
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I'm surprised he would have anything to do with them, after the way they screwed him in the past.


Money talks and touring with VH is big $$$. It is only for the short term so I don't blame MA if they give him what he wants.

He doesn't have to interact with the brothers except on stage so why not get paid? Mick and Keef have worked this way for decades.

I talked to a few big VH fans after the last reunion tour and they said it was disappointing at best and swore they would never go to another reunion show.


siounds like his confidentiality agreement expired.... when the **** hit the fan he was MIA during the controversy and acted like a good solider never saying anything too revealing. He miight as well have well been on another planet.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 09:59 PM
The sad thing (okay, one of the many sad things) about VH is that too often, they end up doing NOTHING.

They have not been settling for a fill-in singer; they have not been opening the archives; they haven't done cool side projects. They do nothing.

I DO think that Eddie is one of the most important guitarists of the past 40 years. He has not treated his legacy well.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2019 at 10:00 PM
By "not doing cool side projects," I mean Eddie in particular. I know the other guys have done stuff.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 05:09 AM
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Jeez, I am SO disappointed! Don't get to hear Roth's completely shot vocals while he acts like a complete clown? If it were Sammy alone I might get interested.

You want to hear some great hard rock? Go see Michael Schenker.


I will agree with that. Schenker is doing that "fest" thing on tour with Barden, Bonnett,McAuley, and Doogie White all on vocals. 3hrs of music. Setlists look good but the studio stuff from this project is average at best. I am a MASSIVE MSG/UFO Michael fan but disappointed in the original material being generated by this. Michael is working with Mike Voss as his collaborator and the material is very generic b level cliched 80's left over sounding. It could be much better in my opinion if he would work with each vocalist independently. Good idea live, but studio/ original ....needs help.


I agree that it works much better live than in studio.

I laughed when I saw Rob use him as an example because Schenker has been one of the most unreliable basket cases in rock history. Much better in recent years but he has cancelled so many shows/tours over the years. I have a collection of useless Schenker tickets. I love him as much as anyone and have pretty much his entire catelog but he wasted lots of years just like VH did. Also after being broke and with health issues both physical and mental, he needed cash and rushed out lots of greatest hits/live albums and some "weaker" studio albums.

But he definitely returned to form especially live. One of rock's greatest guitarists for sure.

As for VH, I said that the tour would not happen. Thank God - because DLR was terrible a few years ago and definitely has not improved.

VH (the brothers) should have just found some young guy to sing.

 

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I will never understand why Dave doesn't just carefully and intelligently work on different ways of phrasing those songs. To me, what made some of the recent live VH bad was that he kept aiming way too high with those notes. Ian Gillan often does the same thing. Silly old men.

Mick Jagger and Robert Plant both wised up and found new ways to sing songs, singing lower, changing the phrasing. I think Mick has also taken voice lessons to learn to better deal with the limits of his instrument.

With intelligence and training, a singer with a limited vocal range can still pull off a convincing performance.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 09:14 AM
The key to being a good singer, is knowing your limitations. Don't reach for that note unless you are confident you can hit it. Also listen to recordings of your performances.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 11:12 AM
Key with DLR is carefully changing the phrasing. He changed it so much that you couldn't tell what he was singing (along with the drum overload in the mix). 2007 was a good performance (except the house sound) and he knew his limitations. 2015 was awful.

 

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I will never understand why Dave doesn't just carefully and intelligently work on different ways of phrasing those songs. To me, what made some of the recent live VH bad was that he kept aiming way too high with those notes. Ian Gillan often does the same thing. Silly old men.

Mick Jagger and Robert Plant both wised up and found new ways to sing songs, singing lower, changing the phrasing. I think Mick has also taken voice lessons to learn to better deal with the limits of his instrument.

With intelligence and training, a singer with a limited vocal range can still pull off a convincing performance.


Jim, you nailed it on your last two.posts.
VH,Eddie doing nothing is perplexing. I don't get it.

I like Dave. He was a big part of that band and developing they're identity. I d o not mind his shtick that he brings to the material, just at least service the song and do it some justice. I think he can, but just won't . He just does what he wants and does not see the issue.

I would prefer them to stay with him, but would not be opposed to another.

I don't think it would happen, but Corey Taylor did a knockout job on this.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qvmq9ySwA-o




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I've never cared for Eddie's cocky attitude. He is moody and demanding and if the least little thing doesn't suit him he won't play. Not a team player. I became disappointed in Eddie back in the late 1970's when he big time trashed Jimmy Page in an interview. Page isn't on Eddie's level but he and Led Zeppelin aren't that bad. I find some of their albums to be rather excellent rock records.

But Eddie is a monster guitar player. I came to think players like the late Gary Moore and Steve Via were a bit better but that is just me. When you talk about the superstars of electric rock guitar players Eddie Van Halen's name would be mentioned ahead of Gary and Steve. Eddie is as known in superstar guitar player circles and on the same level as Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck. I guess not even Duane Allman is on that level. Eddie being picked to do a solo on Michael Jackson's Thriller says alot for him and the late actor Vincent Price. It is the best selling album in history other than the Eagle's greatest Hits. Both are over 20 million copies. Unbelievable record sales.

 

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Blackey, I agree with you. I was not a huge fan when VH first came out; too many fanboys were saluting Eddie and trashing players I loved like Townsend and Richards.

However, great is great. Eddie is an amazing player - rhythm, solos, riffs, tone, the whole deal. I have learned to REALLy love his work.

I feel like after the greats who emerged in the late 60s (Duane, Eric, Jeff, Jimmy, Jimi, Tony, Ritchie), he is the most influential rock guitarist since.

 

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Blackey, I agree with you. I was not a huge fan when VH first came out; too many fanboys were saluting Eddie and trashing players I loved like Townsend and Richards.

However, great is great. Eddie is an amazing player - rhythm, solos, riffs, tone, the whole deal. I have learned to REALLy love his work.

I feel like after the greats who emerged in the late 60s (Duane, Eric, Jeff, Jimmy, Jimi, Tony, Ritchie), he is the most influential rock guitarist since.


I agree along with him being great, he was a very a influential and innovator of the guitar. I don't think I can say that about to many since him.

 

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I'm surprised he would have anything to do with them, after the way they screwed him in the past.


Money talks and touring with VH is big $$$. It is only for the short term so I don't blame MA if they give him what he wants.

He doesn't have to interact with the brothers except on stage so why not get paid? Mick and Keef have worked this way for decades.

I talked to a few big VH fans after the last reunion tour and they said it was disappointing at best and swore they would never go to another reunion show.
They screwed him again. He set aside time for a VH reuinion for nothing, when he could have made money with Hagar ( Circle)

 

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I do wish we could hear EVH outside of Van Halen. VHIII, while certainly having some serious issues, is sprinkled with some tasty nuggets of a different EVH....."Once" and "A Year To The Day" strike my ears as a different side of EVH.

Watch a live clip of "A Year To The Day" from the Australia leg of that tour and tell me that song live at least isn't an incredibly soulful Eddie Van Halen......Holy **** !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBGQmkXcbDI

That tour the entire band smoked....Mike, Al, Ed, and yes, Cherone.....In a live setting that album is so much better. Toss in some classic Roth tunes like "Mean Street" and wow, what a show for long time fans.

I think the lack of acceptance of VHIII along with EVH's cancer and life threatening substance abuse issues are a big reason Ed didn't do much of anything until "A Different Kind of Truth." From most accounts, his son is the person who not only saved his life, but prodded him into recording and touring again.

Given Wolfgang's album is supposedly going to be released soon, I strongly suspect that's the reason Ed was even considering a reunion with Anthony. Promote the kid's album by letting him open for a reunited VH, and make a **** -load of money one last time before riding off into the sun set.

Finally, I think Van Halen's pattern of hunkering down for years between project is partly due to perhaps a fear of being around the crazy party vibe that is touring. For an addict like EVH, the constant temptation of drugs and alcohol may be much more of an issue than we think. He has, after all, never denied that he dealt with his stage fright and shyness by being constantly blasted out of his mind. That has to be a concern still to this day.

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  posted on 6/29/2019 at 08:36 PM
Eddie gave a remarkable interview to, I think, Billboard a few years back. In it, he explained that he really liked booze and coke to use by himself while just jamming and coming up with riffs and recording ideas, rather than to be the life of the party. He also said he continues to record new stuff pretty much daily, stockpiling ideas.
 

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  posted on 6/29/2019 at 08:54 PM
I'm guessing his "ideas" he lays down while loaded on coke and booze, are sh!t. or they would have been put out as a VH record, or Ed Van Halen solo record with different guest musicians, which should have been done in 1999?. That ship has sailed.
 

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I'm guessing his "ideas" he lays down while loaded on coke and booze, are sh!t. or they would have been put out as a VH record, or Ed Van Halen solo record with different guest musicians, which should have been done in 1999?. That ship has sailed.


Which explains exactly why he doesn't do a solo album or much of anything VH related these days. It's also possible even recording in the studio tempts his addictions in the same manner touring does and so he avoids it altogether or as much as possible.

It's pretty clear that drugs and alcohol almost killed him in the early 2000's and so part of his survival technique may be to avoid old habits that enabled his addictions.

On top of that, he's nearing his mid 60's and had a very serious health scare on the last tour, is reputed to be worth many millions of dollars according to several sources (including Valerie Bertinelli) so probably doesn't need the money, and might be content to living life outside the music business.

At this point in his life anything music related he does for public listening is maybe for the sole purpose of helping his son. As I said earlier in this thread, I think any reunion tour is for him at least about assisting Wolfgang.

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