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  posted on 1/20/2020 at 09:56 AM
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People need to keep in mind, the winner is really dependent on the winner in about 5 states. The rest of the country doesn't matter. If the Democratic candidate can beat Trump in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Florida...that's all that matters. If the Democratic candidate doesn't appeal to voters in those states, Trump wins. Trump's favorability never changes. The cult loves their leader no matter what he does. All that matters is voter turnout in a few states.


Mostly true in that the outcome of those states will go a long way in determining the overall winner. PA had been solidly blue, going Democrat in every election from Clinton through Obama, until Trump. Same for MI. WI hadn't voted Republican since Reagan, until Trump. So, Bush 41 and 43 were able to win their elections without the benefits of those states. Although the landscape has changed in other places. In 2016 Minnesota was fairly close....as were smaller states like NH and ME....it's hard for me to imagine Trump growing his support in those or most any places.

 

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  posted on 1/20/2020 at 09:58 AM
NYT endorsement:

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In a break with convention, the
editorial board has chosen to endorse two separate
Democratic candidates for president.

Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/01/19/opinion/amy-klobuchar-elizab eth-warren-nytimes-endorsement.html



 

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People need to keep in mind, the winner is really dependent on the winner in about 5 states. The rest of the country doesn't matter. If the Democratic candidate can beat Trump in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Florida...that's all that matters. If the Democratic candidate doesn't appeal to voters in those states, Trump wins. Trump's favorability never changes. The cult loves their leader no matter what he does. All that matters is voter turnout in a few states.


Mostly true in that the outcome of those states will go a long way in determining the overall winner. PA had been solidly blue, going Democrat in every election from Clinton through Obama, until Trump. Same for MI. WI hadn't voted Republican since Reagan, until Trump. So, Bush 41 and 43 were able to win their elections without the benefits of those states. Although the landscape has changed in other places. In 2016 Minnesota was fairly close....as were smaller states like NH and ME....it's hard for me to imagine Trump growing his support in those or most any places.


I agree and I doubt Trump support has grown in those states. But, does Warren have a better chance in those states than Biden. or Bernie? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Warren will have a tough time in the states that matter. Even though Sanders may be farther left than Warren, for some reason he seems to connect with the midwestern voters more than she does. However, even with all his faults, I think Biden has the best chance in the states that count in getting votes from the fencesitters.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2020 at 10:17 AM
Des Moines Register endorsement:

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Endorsement: Elizabeth Warren will push an unequal America in the right direction

The Register's editorial Published 6:00 p.m. CT Jan. 25, 2020 | Updated 7:10 p.m. CT Jan. 25, 2020

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2020/01/2 6/elizabeth-warren-president-democrat-iowa-caucuses-des-moines-register-edi torial-board-endorsement/4562157002/



I can't begin to count how many Bloomberg commercial's I've seen. Good enough to push him to 4th in last week's polling.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2020 at 10:18 AM
DNC changing debate requirements for the 2/19 Las Vegas debate. By dropping the donor requirement and doubling the polling requirement, Michael Bloomberg should be able to qualify for his first debate.


 

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  posted on 2/1/2020 at 10:37 AM
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DNC changing debate requirements for the 2/19 Las Vegas debate. By dropping the donor requirement and doubling the polling requirement, Michael Bloomberg should be able to qualify for his first debate.




I heard this tidbit earlier this morning....I must admit, I think a Bloomberg/Trump debate will make for an entertaining couple hours of television should Bloomberg get the nomination.

I wonder who Bloomberg would select as his running mate? Any guesses out there?

 

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  posted on 2/1/2020 at 08:21 PM
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The rest of the country doesn't matter.


This comment was taken from what I believe to be a whining criticism of the Electoral College. Funny, the exact same peeps on this board complaining about President Trump's alleged lack of respect for the Constitution are the very same ones who are still pissing and moaning about Hillary's loss. The rest of the Country might take exception to the above "argument"....


What State do you live in?


I live in AZ, because I grew tired of the B.S. going on in California... Why don't these States have the same laws?...Because of that very reason, separation from what most would refer to as the "Nonsense going on the neighboring State" ....Each state has a say in the Presidential Election and I love it. Want every vote to be equal?..That formula exists on every level and platform in your local Gubmint, as it should. Why should people in Iowa, Maine and North Dakota be subject to the same ideals and thoughts as those in California and N.Y.?...Don't know?...Because the Forefathers had vision, the same vision that you claim to stand behind when exercising your thoughts on what denotes a valid impeachment. Oh, how that pendulum swings....

 

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I live in AZ, because I grew tired of the B.S. going on in California... Why don't these States have the same laws. . .


Because Arizona isn't much of a state, that's why. California is dealing with a population ten times larger. Arizona is basically Phoenix and Tucson with a few other towns scattered around in the middle of a vast US Govt territorial holding. 27% of the state is Native American reservation, 54% public lands, Natl Forest, BLM. Over 80% of the state is Federally managed. It is a few pockets of private commerce and residence surrounded by a hardline socialist govt land monopoly. Without the employment the Federal lands administration provides, and the reservation subsidies -Arizona would collapse. California is a private capitalist paradise compared to Arizona.

Funny thing, for all the anti-govt sentiment re public lands, nowhere do I feel liberty more than out where there are no private lands. Did you know in AZ you can get a permit for 60$ a year from the BLM and live on BLM land year round for free? Cant do that in California. Now THAT is what I call liberty.

 

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This comment was taken from what I believe to be a whining criticism of the Electoral College. Funny, the exact same peeps on this board complaining about President Trump's alleged lack of respect for the Constitution are the very same ones who are still pissing and moaning about Hillary's loss.


A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition.[2][3] Straw man arguments have been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly regarding highly charged emotional subjects.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2020 at 11:24 PM
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The typical straw man argument


Jesus, find a new argument

 

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  posted on 2/1/2020 at 11:41 PM
jesus, stop doing it.
 

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  posted on 2/1/2020 at 11:51 PM
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jesus, stop doing it.


There is another option. Walk away.

I don't believe you to be capable of ignoring things you find noxious.

Prove me wrong.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2020 at 12:02 AM
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Funny thing, for all the anti-govt sentiment re public lands, nowhere do I feel liberty more than out where there are no private lands. Did you know in AZ you can get a permit for 60$ a year from the BLM and live on BLM land year round for free? Cant do that in California. Now THAT is what I call liberty.


Public land for public use. Let's keep it that way! For all to enjoy (hikers, bikers, atvers and OHVers, horseback riders) and there is even some appropriate and compatible industrial interests. Our public lands are very diverse and can serve the interest of many people. I love them. Let's protect them, but not exclude other positive interests as well. Some people don't want motorized travel on our public lands and seek to exclude them. Some people don't want timber industry on our public lands. It is big enough and we can all benefit from the resources. Like the Coexist bumper sticker for religion? Apply it to public lands.

Yes, I am a paying member of groups supporting motorized recreation on our public Forest Service and BLM lands. I am leaving Wednesday to snowmobile in Colorado's Pike and San Isabel National Forests. I'm thankful and grateful for the opportunity to do so.

Republicans who want to privatize or return these lands to the states are wrong in my opinion. As are those on the left who would want to turn it all into wilderness or national monuments. Public land for public use.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2020 at 12:19 AM
It is truly one of our finest traditions. State parks all over the place, free or cheap, facilities, no other country has it, and the West has most. Out East was pretty much all locked up before the country went for public lands.

Zero sympathy for these ranchers who think public lands belong to them. Zero. When they get run off by the govt they are getting run off by ME - tax dollars well spent.




[Edited on 2/2/2020 by BrerRabbit]

 

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Yup, the west is the best! Ranchers might have grazing rights and they may've even maintained or improved the acreage leased to them, but it is not their's. Not surprised the act like it is though, if it has been leased to them for generations. Still not right.

I'm surprised Arizona allows camping permits for an entire year, but that is cool.

I have been to public lands in Arizona, California, Nevada in addition to Colorado where I spend most of my nature time. Magnificat places. Truly national treasures, not just the tourist attraction parks, all of it.

 

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I'm surprised Arizona allows camping permits for an entire year, but that is cool.


Only out on BLM land - not the more desirable Natl Forest land. And no permanent structures allowed. Very few people know about it. There are a lot of loopholes to where you can live on govt land for fee or even pull in some profit - I know folks who have lived on mining claims under the 1873 mining law. Or if town makes you ill and just visiting isn't enough - just work for the BLM, National Forest or Park Service, you get set up out there.



[Edited on 2/2/2020 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 2/3/2020 at 04:13 PM
IOWA CAUCUS TONIGHT

Here it is, election season officially begins tonight!

In 5 of the last 7 contested Democrat primaries, the winner of Iowa has gone on to be the nominee.

Party establishment getting nervous about Bernie (again).

 

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  posted on 2/3/2020 at 05:04 PM
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The rest of the country doesn't matter.


This comment was taken from what I believe to be a whining criticism of the Electoral College. Funny, the exact same peeps on this board complaining about President Trump's alleged lack of respect for the Constitution are the very same ones who are still pissing and moaning about Hillary's loss. The rest of the Country might take exception to the above "argument"....


What State do you live in?


I live in AZ, because I grew tired of the B.S. going on in California... Why don't these States have the same laws?...Because of that very reason, separation from what most would refer to as the "Nonsense going on the neighboring State" ....Each state has a say in the Presidential Election and I love it. Want every vote to be equal?..That formula exists on every level and platform in your local Gubmint, as it should. Why should people in Iowa, Maine and North Dakota be subject to the same ideals and thoughts as those in California and N.Y.?...Don't know?...Because the Forefathers had vision, the same vision that you claim to stand behind when exercising your thoughts on what denotes a valid impeachment. Oh, how that pendulum swings....



Except that isn't true.

Win these states...

California
Texas
Florida
New York
Illinois
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Georgia
Michigan
North Carolina
New Jersey

...and you win the Presidency. You don't have to get one vote in the other 39 states to win.

 

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  posted on 2/3/2020 at 07:09 PM
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Except that isn't true.

Win these states...

California
Texas
Florida
New York
Illinois
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Georgia
Michigan
North Carolina
New Jersey

...and you win the Presidency. You don't have to get one vote in the other 39 states to win.


First of all, Jerry, congratulations on yesterday!

Second of all, the same person isn't winning all those states. Then you bring in well win Minnesota and you can lose x or win Virginia and you can lose y if you win z....

Now, it's caucus time!

 

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  posted on 2/3/2020 at 10:52 PM
results delayed for unknown reasons...LOL maybe it's like " **** Bernie won, how can we make it look like Biden did better than he actually did?"
 

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Because the Forefathers had vision, the same vision that you claim to stand behind when exercising your thoughts on what denotes a valid impeachment. Oh, how that pendulum swings....



Except that isn't true.

Win these states...

California
Texas
Florida
New York
Illinois
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Georgia
Michigan
North Carolina
New Jersey

...and you win the Presidency. You don't have to get one vote in the other 39 states to win.


Please tell us all just how many of the above states were in existence when the constitution was written? The forefathers new exactly what they were doing.

 

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  posted on 2/3/2020 at 11:39 PM
It's official, the Iowa Caucus is a cluskerfvck!
 

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  posted on 2/4/2020 at 09:31 AM
So everyone comes out of Iowa as a winner!

Sucks for whoever actually ends up getting the most delegates because there won't be any surge or momentum or all the immediate headlines that can help put wind in their sails and put doubt in the other candidates and their supporters.

The closest thing I could pick up on was that Bernie probably won, Mayor Pete might've also done very well, Amy did better than expected and Joe didn't do well...and I didn't get a pulse on where to guess Warren finished. Strange thing there was that CNN and MSNBC didn't carry Warren's speech live. Think it was Biden who they choose to go with who started at the same time, then Biden ended and both networks decided to have their panelists comment about it all while leaving a little box on screen without audio of Warren talking away. They did then go back and play it in it's entirety, but they could've cut in after Biden was done. Kinda feel like she got a little short changed on her air time.

 

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Primaries begin a week from today, & headline in today’s paper datelined Des Moines IA reads “Weld gets top billing with anti Trump crowd,” & that Bill is concentrating his efforts on a big showing in NH

So maybe Bill Weld is becoming the front runner - impeachment vote comes in the interim, & you never know - Trump’s political enemies, not American citizens, might vote him out yet - it should be a heck of a primary season

 

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First of all, Jerry, congratulations on yesterday!

Now, it's caucus time!


For what?

 

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