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  posted on 1/24/2019 at 01:47 PM
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I do not believe we are ready for a Woman President; the Dems aspirations for the WH lay with 77 year old Bernie Sanders changing Parties.



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Can you expand upon your reasoning why you make that statement about a Woman President"? Who are the "we" that you personally refer to? We doesn't include me.

You say you "do not believe we are ready for a Woman President". So - when do you think we will be ready? 10 years, 20 years, never?

I'll bet you $100.00 that Bernie won't be the nominee. Are you in?


On Bernie?...No, but thanks!...But I believe he represents the Dems best chance to win.

"We" being representative of the Voting block as a whole. Not everyone who finds their way to a Polling station lives in N.Y. or California and a good % of those voters have readily voiced their opinions on this.

When will "we" be ready? one more Generation, change takes time a evidenced by how gradually States are coming around to the Legalization of Pot.....

The Dems will argue that Hillary was extremely qualified to hold the highest office in the land...How did she lose given the system has elected what?...44/45 other Presidents?

 

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I can hear the right desperately searching online for something.....anything at all, to hate about Kamala Harris. “Surely there must be something, and I’m going to find it and pretend to hate her for it.” Just watch.

In the next couple weeks, Fox News will find it, create the talking point, and we’ll see it regurgitated here by the usual sheep who can’t articulate for themselves. It’ll be such a coincidence, that Goob and Mule will miraculously share the same frustrations as Fox News, at the same time!


She seems confused and blows where the politcal winds shift. I understand that she made it her personal mission to have truancy become criminal offense in California, clogging up the courts with low income minorities. If she is such a hard liner not sure why she is a democrat and opposes the Wall and Trump.


goob - see BoytonBrother's post 1/22/2019 at 11:18. You just validated his point. Bingo.


This same argument can be and will be made by the Democrats about almost any Republican Candidate.......

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  posted on 1/24/2019 at 02:04 PM
The most recent popular votes would suggest that the majority of the country is ready. It’s the conservatives who aren’t ready.
 

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The most recent popular votes would suggest that the majority of the country is ready. It’s the conservatives who aren’t ready.


"Popular" votes are not enough. The people in the breadbasket of the Country have a voice. We may not agree with it, but there they are.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2019 at 02:46 PM
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"Popular" votes are not enough. The people in the breadbasket of the Country have a voice. We may not agree with it, but there they are.


Right. So then the people in the red state breadbasket aren’t ready for a woman President, but the “voting block as a whole” favored Hillary by a couple million.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2019 at 03:58 PM
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Who are the "we" that you personally refer to?


We the peephole.

 

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I do not believe we are ready for a Woman President; the Dems aspirations for the WH lay with 77 year old Bernie Sanders changing Parties.



bigv,

Can you expand upon your reasoning why you make that statement about a Woman President"? Who are the "we" that you personally refer to? We doesn't include me.

You say you "do not believe we are ready for a Woman President". So - when do you think we will be ready? 10 years, 20 years, never?

I'll bet you $100.00 that Bernie won't be the nominee. Are you in?


On Bernie?...No, but thanks!...But I believe he represents the Dems best chance to win.

"We" being representative of the Voting block as a whole. Not everyone who finds their way to a Polling station lives in N.Y. or California and a good % of those voters have readily voiced their opinions on this.

When will "we" be ready? one more Generation, change takes time a evidenced by how gradually States are coming around to the Legalization of Pot.....

The Dems will argue that Hillary was extremely qualified to hold the highest office in the land...How did she lose given the system has elected what?...44/45 other Presidents?


The midterms saw a record number of women elected to Congress. Almost all were Dems. Wonder why the GOP continues to elect mainly white males while the Dems much more reflect the makeup of the population's diversity?

Hillary probably lost because she was hated by many, and they voted for the other horribly flawed candidate with the belief that they were voting for the lesser of two evils. I doubt HC lost because she is a woman. With what the country has seen of whatever the f Trump is combined with the vote for female candidates in the midterms, I'd say the country is more than ready for a woman to become POTUS.

There will always be pockets of narrow minded, chauvinistic, and backwards thinking individuals, but society as a whole always changes as time moves forward.

 

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There will always be pockets of narrow minded, chauvinistic, and backwards thinking individuals, but society as a whole always changes as time moves forward.


Very true statement and they come in all shapes, sizes, colors and are members of any number of political parties.....

 

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  posted on 1/24/2019 at 06:18 PM
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There will always be pockets of narrow minded, chauvinistic, and backwards thinking individuals, but society as a whole always changes as time moves forward.


Very true statement and they come in all shapes, sizes, colors and are members of any number of political parties.....


So let's concentrate on the other statement I made. What is your explanation for the following:

"The midterms saw a record number of women elected to Congress. Almost all were Dems. Wonder why the GOP continues to elect mainly white males while the Dems much more reflect the makeup of the population's diversity?"

 

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There will always be pockets of narrow minded, chauvinistic, and backwards thinking individuals, but society as a whole always changes as time moves forward.


Very true statement and they come in all shapes, sizes, colors and are members of any number of political parties.....


So let's concentrate on the other statement I made. What is your explanation for the following:

"The midterms saw a record number of women elected to Congress. Almost all were Dems. Wonder why the GOP continues to elect mainly white males while the Dems much more reflect the makeup of the population's diversity?"


Difference in the way the Parties are viewed would be my guess. A lot of new voters come from from cultures where the Gov't takes care of everything, gee whiz, which Party do you think fits that profile? For example you seem to see most Republicans in one way and most Dems in another, that's cool, but you have to accept that not everyone is going to agree with that assessment. I have no problem with Democrats per say, but their leadership makes me laugh...For example, the existing funds for a lot of Gubmint workers are about to run out and the Party of the "People" would rather see some people end up homeless and without food than to give President Trump one penny for his wall. Nice. As far as Branding voters can we agree that there are Democrats in Iowa and Oklahoma that are 80 year old white guys who don't believe a Woman can be President? Sure there are.....Both major parties wear rose colored glasses and turn a blind eye whenever it suits them......

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  posted on 1/24/2019 at 08:21 PM
Yep, absolutely! Vote Libertarian; sap the Republicans! Power to them! If I were a Republican politician I would be scared to death of Libertarians right now.

[Edited on 1/25/2019 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 1/24/2019 at 10:31 PM
The only issue I have with Kamala Harris, it's actually an issue with CNN, they are going to air a town hall style show from Iowa. Hopefully they will be doing this for all the candidates. It seems rather unfair to the other candidates that they would give her this air time and platform and not her fellow Democrat competitors like Castro or Gabbard or the other lesser know candidates. It's almost like CNN is deciding who to promote by doing this. She was only 6th in a Politico Iowa December poll of potential candidates with 7%. This town hall event should help boost that, but CNN should be offering such to the other candidates as well.
 

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A lot of new voters come from from cultures where the Gov't takes care of everything, gee whiz, which Party do you think fits that profile?


Inner cities vote democrat. Bible Belt votes Trump. By asking “which”, did you think it was just one party?

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“Per say”, lol. I appreciate you leaving the option of hating them outright on the table.

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the existing funds for a lot of Gubmint workers are about to run out and the Party of the "People" would rather see some people end up homeless and without food than to give President Trump one penny for his wall. Nice.


Existing funds are about to run out and our Russian asset President would rather see Americans end up homeless and without food because he wants a $5billion monument to himself built.

But see it how you want, and excuse a traitor to our country working for a foreign adversary. Blame other officials because of their political affiliation instead. Just have some courage and say you don’t like Democrats. It’s way more respectable than dancing around with this lazy nonsensical analysis. Trump owns it, as he said, period. Hostage taking is a sleazy tactic, and it’s better to spend $5billion on something that will definitely work - not a symbol for white supremist America. Trump is in charge. Obviously.

 

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A lot of new voters come from from cultures where the Gov't takes care of everything, gee whiz, which Party do you think fits that profile?


Inner cities vote democrat. Bible Belt votes Trump. By asking “which”, did you think it was just one party?

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“Per say”, lol. I appreciate you leaving the option of hating them outright on the table.

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the existing funds for a lot of Gubmint workers are about to run out and the Party of the "People" would rather see some people end up homeless and without food than to give President Trump one penny for his wall. Nice.


Existing funds are about to run out and our Russian asset President would rather see Americans end up homeless and without food because he wants a $5billion monument to himself built.

But see it how you want, and excuse a traitor to our country working for a foreign adversary. Blame other officials because of their political affiliation instead. Just have some courage and say you don’t like Democrats. It’s way more respectable than dancing around with this lazy nonsensical analysis. Trump owns it, as he said, period. Hostage taking is a sleazy tactic, and it’s better to spend $5billion on something that will definitely work - not a symbol for white supremist America. Trump is in charge. Obviously.


You are certainly entitled to your opinion and as always have stated it with nothing but eloquence and tact. But, I respectively disagree.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2019 at 11:33 PM
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On Bernie?...No, but thanks!...But I believe he represents the Dems best chance to win.


Now that he's been exposed for the misogynist many knew him to be, Dem women under 77 won't vote for him. He's DOA.

 

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There will always be pockets of narrow minded, chauvinistic, and backwards thinking individuals, but society as a whole always changes as time moves forward.


Very true statement and they come in all shapes, sizes, colors and are members of any number of political parties.....


So let's concentrate on the other statement I made. What is your explanation for the following:

"The midterms saw a record number of women elected to Congress. Almost all were Dems. Wonder why the GOP continues to elect mainly white males while the Dems much more reflect the makeup of the population's diversity?"


Difference in the way the Parties are viewed would be my guess. A lot of new voters come from from cultures where the Gov't takes care of everything, gee whiz, which Party do you think fits that profile? For example you seem to see most Republicans in one way and most Dems in another, that's cool, but you have to accept that not everyone is going to agree with that assessment. I have no problem with Democrats per say, but their leadership makes me laugh...For example, the existing funds for a lot of Gubmint workers are about to run out and the Party of the "People" would rather see some people end up homeless and without food than to give President Trump one penny for his wall. Nice. As far as Branding voters can we agree that there are Democrats in Iowa and Oklahoma that are 80 year old white guys who don't believe a Woman can be President? Sure there are.....Both major parties wear rose colored glasses and turn a blind eye whenever it suits them......

Vote Libertarian; less Government


I know A LOT of people who claim to be Libertarian, yet they never win elections, or even get more than 1 or 2 percent of the vote. Sometimes I think Libertarians like to make a lot of noise and act like they're smarter than everyone else, but when they get in the voting booth they vote Republican every time. Heck, I don't know anybody who claims to be in the Green Party (and I live in liberal California), yet they get more votes than Libertarians. If Gary Johnson couldn't do better against Trump than he did, then I think the Libertarian Party will never be more than an insignificant footnote.

 

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the Party of the "People" would rather see some people end up homeless and without food than to give President Trump one penny for his wall. Nice.


“The hostage negotiator would rather see the bank customer die than give the bank robber cash and a helicopter. Nice.”

If you look at this ink blot and direct your ire at the Democrats, then you are clearly bigoted against a certain political affiliation.

 

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the Party of the "People" would rather see some people end up homeless and without food than to give President Trump one penny for his wall. Nice.


“The hostage negotiator would rather see the bank customer die than give the bank robber cash and a helicopter. Nice.”


You do realize that there are a good percentage of Voters who see Pelosi and Schumer as the "Hostage negotiators"? They have an equal opportunity to end this, but choose to wear their disdain on their collars.


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If you look at this ink blot and direct your ire at the Democrats, then you are clearly bigoted against a certain political affiliation.


And your feelings toward Republicans? Ask yourself if the shoe fits?

You are amazing.

 

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  posted on 1/25/2019 at 12:28 PM
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And your feelings toward Republicans? Ask yourself if the shoe fits?

You are amazing.


Not true at all. I was ready to vote Republican in 2016, until they chose the one guy who was attacking America and praising foreign adversaries at the time - I couldn't stomach that treasonous language. I like George W. Bush. I respect traditional conservative family values. I don't agree with Republican politics, but I'll gladly vote for them if they present the stronger candidate. Dismiss it if you want, but it's the truth. As for the past 2 years, yes, I'm ashamed of the Republicans in Washington who cower and turn a blind eye to the poison in the White House. Shame on them, and shame on the people who vote for this crap - sometimes you gotta put personal interests and emotions aside and do what's right - this does not belong in our White House, period. Why didn't republican voters choose Chris Christie? What about Kasich? Bush? Show me a good Republican leader like George W. Bush, and he's got my vote in 2 seconds.

 

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Why didn't republican voters choose Chris Christie? What about Kasich? Bush? Show me a good Republican leader like George W. Bush, and he's got my vote in 2 seconds.


I voted for Obama in '08, believed in the possibility of real change....Returned to the Libertarian ticket after that. I believe that for a lot of Voters President Trump was the outsider, the "Take no Prisoners, accept no more biz as usual type of Candidate" where, imo, Bush always looked he was going to cry, Kasich seemed angry and Christie couldn't take care of himself....

 

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  posted on 1/25/2019 at 01:41 PM
For those who want to blame the Dems or place blame equally, take a look at any number of polling results and see if that is reflective of the truth.

From Marketwatch today

"Sixty percent of Americans say Trump bears a great deal of responsibility for the shutdown."

That seems a far cry from a Pelosi or Schumer blame stat.

Most polls have Trump's approval rating at mid 30's now.

 

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Why didn't republican voters choose Chris Christie? What about Kasich? Bush? Show me a good Republican leader like George W. Bush, and he's got my vote in 2 seconds.


I voted for Obama in '08, believed in the possibility of real change....Returned to the Libertarian ticket after that. I believe that for a lot of Voters President Trump was the outsider, the "Take no Prisoners, accept no more biz as usual type of Candidate" where, imo, Bush always looked he was going to cry, Kasich seemed angry and Christie couldn't take care of himself....


So do you think Trump's no more biz as usual has been good for America, inclusive of all Americans, positive for foreign relations with our allies, devoid of questionable dealings with enemy nations, managing debt, clean & swamp draining, & putting qualified individuals (the best people) in key positions?

Record turnover in resignations in appointments & resignations by Generals?

 

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For those who want to blame the Dems or place blame equally, take a look at any number of polling results and see if that is reflective of the truth.


Polls!...The same ones that said Hillary would win in a landslide?

 

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  posted on 1/25/2019 at 08:15 PM
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So do you think Trump's no more biz as usual has been good for America


As I have done with preceding Presidents from Ford, through Obama, my answer is "I do not know, it's too soon to tell". I believe you judge the White House as terms are completed, I've always thought that. Now some may disagree, especially if disgust is the driving factor.

 

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If Gary Johnson couldn't do better against Trump than he did, then I think the Libertarian Party will never be more than an insignificant footnote.


So be it. I believe in less Gubmint and the Libertarian Parties platform is the best fit for me and my belief system. Your mileage may vary.

I participate in the process by voting, 2% or 40, You'll find me casting my Vote on Election day, driven by my conscience and what I believe to be right.

 

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