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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 11:16 AM
The sad reality is that there are millions of adults in this country who suffer from mental illness and go completely undetected and undiagnosed. Obviously this is the root, but because of this unfortunate reality, I think it’s the height of irresponsibility to give them such easy paths to obtain high powered artillery. If you are in the group of people that wants to leave this path wide open for them to purchase one, then own it proud boys!




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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 11:40 AM
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The sad reality is that there are millions of adults in this country who suffer from mental illness . . .


And to top it off, an even more sad reality is they even managed to get one of their number elected POTUS.

The inmates are running the asylum.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 12:17 PM
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No one is taking all the guns away. Ever.

There continues to be zero realistic intention by any person of power to confiscate America’s guns.

No one is taking all the guns away.

Ever.


They hear sensible gun measures, and they take it as a personal attack on their own level of responsibility...thinking only about themselves, and not about the dangers of creating open paths for the mentally ill to purchase machine guns. Bizarre.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 12:25 PM
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Do you think people should undergo a psychiatric test before getting a drivers license? A car is a big dangerous item


This is beyond stupid. Most states require drivers ed, and all require a thorough written exam to get a license, followed by a physical demonstration with an instructor, followed by license renewal every 4 years, and involves public traffic laws that are heavily monitored by police, with regulated speed limits, etc. I could only HOPE that gun laws become as diligent as our autmotive laws - thank you for pointing that out.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 12:26 PM
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The sad reality is that there are millions of adults in this country who suffer from mental illness and go completely undetected and undiagnosed. Obviously this is the root, but because of this unfortunate reality, I think it’s the height of irresponsibility to give them such easy paths to obtain high powered artillery. If you are in the group of people that wants to leave this path wide open for them to purchase one, then own it proud boys!

[Edited on 11/9/2019 by Skydog32103]


I proudly, proudly claim that I back the Constitution. No doubt about it.

How do you predict FUTURE mental illness? Do you just deny everyone the right to purchase firearms?

Do you back mental health checks for those running for political office?
Would you back legislation that would take armed protection details away from the politicians that would deny a law abiding American citizen the right to own a firearm to protect themselves and their family?
Would you vote for a politician whose concept of reality has him/her believe that it's easier to purchase an AR-15 than a cap gun?
https://twitter.com/CoreyBooker/status/1125891720632307715/photo/1

There is no easy path to own high powered artillery. You have to undergo a full FBI background check, local investigation, and quite a few other legal hoops to purchase artillery. It takes a long time (years) and costs a lot of money too.

Why bring in the subject of artillery in a discussion on AR-15 rifles?

 

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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 01:20 PM
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I proudly, proudly claim that I back the Constitution. No doubt about it.


Making it harder to purchase AR-15s has nothing to do with the Constitution.

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How do you predict FUTURE mental illness? Do you just deny everyone the right to purchase firearms?


What does this have to do with anything? We already know they are out there!

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Do you back mental health checks for those running for political office?


Bizarre to compare AR-15s to politicians.

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Would you back legislation that would take armed protection details away from the politicians that would deny a law abiding American citizen the right to own a firearm to protect themselves and their family?
Would you vote for a politician whose concept of reality has him/her believe that it's easier to purchase an AR-15 than a cap gun?
https://twitter.com/CoreyBooker/status/1125891720632307715/photo/1


This is irrelvant gibberish, that has nothing to do with what I'm discussing. If you have a point, I suggest you make it.

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There is no easy path to own high powered artillery. You have to undergo a full FBI background check, local investigation, and quite a few other legal hoops to purchase artillery. It takes a long time (years) and costs a lot of money too.

Why bring in the subject of artillery in a discussion on AR-15 rifles?


Good, lets do the same for AR-15s. I think it's a good idea to make it harder to purchase an AR-15, and you don't.......good for you.

What, no response to your ridiculous 3,000 murders and 400% silliness?






[Edited on 11/9/2019 by Skydog32103]

 

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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 02:22 PM
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Look up and see how many, never mind, you probably wouldn't, so here are the 2017 figures from the FBI.
Rifles (Note: no breakdown on what type used) 403 murders
blunt objects-Clubs, hammers, and such 467 murders
Personal (hands, feet, fist, etc.) 692 murders
Knives (Again no breakdown) 1,591 murders


That’s about 3,000 murders...what about the other 30,000 plus that aren’t mentioned? Why mention only a small portion of murders? Maybe you ought to post a link. And it doesn’t even specify type of rifle! Good one Jerry!

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Wow, why aren't you out campaigning for the banning of knives since they are used in almost 400% more murders than rifles?
Should we go about cutting off feet, hands, and fists off everyone since they are used in 170% more murders than rifles?
What about baseball bats, clubs, hammers, tire irons, iron pipe, and other heavy objects than can be used in a murder.


Calm down. Show proof of your 400% bullsh*t, or stay at the kids table.

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Their narrative doesn't fit anything, and their "facts" are quickly disproved, but---they keep using them, which is silly.
That makes me laugh at them.


I posted an opinion, and you seem to have an issue with it. You’ve shown no stats, no links, nothing but your own narrative based on silly fictional stats. (I won’t hold my breath for a link to those stats).

If you think it’s smart to sell them, be my guest, no need to get so defensive.



Let's see 403 murders by rifles, 1,591 murders by knives. 403 goes into 1,591 almost 4 times (3.947890818858564 to be exact). That means there were almost an increase of 400% in murders with knives than rifles. Third grade math, and who was your third grade teacher?
All you have to do is look up FBI murder statistics for 2017
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/exp anded-homicide-data-table-11.xls

Reason other murder weapons weren't mentioned? We weren't discussing those, but I included ones that had a higher ratio than rifles to give you some idea of what else was used to murder people.

Your opinion is fine, and I'll defend your Constitutional right to voice it. Posting non-existent "facts" brings out the teacher in me and I try to inform posters how they are misinformed.
Ask anyone who has been here for a while.

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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 02:38 PM
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I proudly, proudly claim that I back the Constitution. No doubt about it.


Making it harder to purchase AR-15s has nothing to do with the Constitution.

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How do you predict FUTURE mental illness? Do you just deny everyone the right to purchase firearms?


What does this have to do with anything? We already know they are out there!

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Do you back mental health checks for those running for political office?


Bizarre to compare AR-15s to politicians.

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Would you back legislation that would take armed protection details away from the politicians that would deny a law abiding American citizen the right to own a firearm to protect themselves and their family?
Would you vote for a politician whose concept of reality has him/her believe that it's easier to purchase an AR-15 than a cap gun?
https://twitter.com/CoreyBooker/status/1125891720632307715/photo/1


This is irrelvant gibberish, that has nothing to do with what I'm discussing. If you have a point, I suggest you make it.

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There is no easy path to own high powered artillery. You have to undergo a full FBI background check, local investigation, and quite a few other legal hoops to purchase artillery. It takes a long time (years) and costs a lot of money too.

Why bring in the subject of artillery in a discussion on AR-15 rifles?


Good, lets do the same for AR-15s. I think it's a good idea to make it harder to purchase an AR-15, and you don't.......good for you.

What, no response to your ridiculous 3,000 murders and 400% silliness?

[Edited on 11/9/2019 by Skydog32103]


Limiting access to any law abiding citizen to any firearm they wish to own IS against the Constitution, or don't you believe in "the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms" as a fundamental right given in the Constitution?

Politicians should be held to a higher standard than others. They are the ones who vote in the laws, as you well know.
A mentally deranged politician can cause more potential devastation than any mass shooter.
You don't think it would be important that they have knowledge of what they are voting on, and have a good mental grasp of what is real and what is fantasy?

Shouldn't those who don't want the American citizen the right of "Equal Protection Under The Law" have to follow their own rules?

Who is WE, and how do they know who is going to have future mental illness?

I'd like to meet up with them and get the Powerball winning numbers for the next billion dollar jackpot.

Concerning the rest, see previous post.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 06:04 PM
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Do you think people should undergo a psychiatric test before getting a drivers license? A car is a big dangerous item


This is beyond stupid. Most states require drivers ed, and all require a thorough written exam to get a license, followed by a physical demonstration with an instructor, followed by license renewal every 4 years, and involves public traffic laws that are heavily monitored by police, with regulated speed limits, etc. I could only HOPE that gun laws become as diligent as our autmotive laws - thank you for pointing that out.


BUT, how do you know that person isn't one of your unverified "millions" of adults who are undergoing undetected mental illness? How many people could one of your "undetected" maniacs kill on a downtown street in say NYC during New Years Eve?

ALSO, could you post a link that gives the number of "undetecteds", what region (Washington, DC when Congress is in session is a given) they live in, and age, description, race, gender, and income so those of us who are sane can stay away from those areas.

I would also like to see instruction in gun safety and marksmanship in every school. Too bad it isn't offered like it used to be with all those "liberal parents" not wanting their child touching a firearm that stopped even the Eddie Eagle program being offered in grade schools.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2019 at 08:40 PM
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It doesn’t just apply to players
You can’t tell the field of Dem POTUS candidates w/out a scorecard either
Best of luck to the newest one, Mayor Bloomberg - if Alabamans vote for him it could give him momentum for the more familiar northern states
still think Hillary will throw her hat in the ring too at some point - as some of the ‘weaker sisters’ end their campaigns


For the umpteenth time, neither HC nor Michelle Obama will run for prez this cycle.

Bloomberg will come & go.

[Edited on 11/8/2019 by MartinD28]


On your mention of Michelle, yes, she has stated that she’s not a candidate (altho that was before her win in NH)
Hillary has not made that definitive statement
She could still be smarting from the last election &, seeing the nondescript candidates in her own party along with the low opinion of Trump - wouldn’t be surprising to see her take another try at it -
But you’re right, she’s 72 years old, might just decide to leave well enough alone & enjoy her retirement w/Bill
You never know - the public mood is fickle, fluctuating frequently

[Edited on 11/10/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 10:49 AM
As long as these candidates continue to harp on Trump, as if we don't have eyes and ears, and join him in his verbal wars, then he will easily win again. Trump is a powerless fool when up against a cool cat like Obama, who cannot be rattled. Maturity, kindness, charisma, and composure is Trump's kryptonite, and none of these Democrats have demonstrated these traits at this point. He is leading them right where he wants them.
 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 08:52 PM
I have noticed Yang standing out from the Democratic herd. I like what I'm hearing there. It is a mystery to me that an upstart Republican or Independent, or has not leapt into the moderate breach - huge windfall opportunity there, could so easily.steal the field from the extremists.
 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 09:00 PM
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For the umpteenth time, neither HC nor Michelle Obama will run for prez this cycle.


Worthy of a quote, because you never know.....

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 09:38 PM
Why all the Hilary and Michelle campfire ghost tales? So what if they do run? Is this a cause for concern? You guys seem kinda spooked about it. Kinda like in horror movies at the end where you think the monster was dead but it comes back.

So yeah, Hilary Shmilary. Other than the prospect of the progressive novelty of a woman president, which I thought was great in terms of women's rights and a long overdue symbolic boost for young women - I really don't see how Hilary Clinton warranted so much attention, negative or positive. She was pretty bland and lackluster, standard middle of the road corporate US political issue. Not much to love or hate. Why you all hate her so much is beyond me. I even started a thread on it, page after page of not one articulate response. Had to draw the conclusion that it was simply some gut level anti-fem thing. A lot of guys just really dislike and distrust women deep down I've noticed.


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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 11:20 AM
Bill Weld is not alone
Newest “officially declared Democratic 2020 POTUS candidate” is former Mass governor Deval Patrick - crazy - guessing more will declare - including, but not limited to, Hillary (not to creep you out brer, just sayin) - since I dislike & distrust women : - good laugh

Mayb Gov Patrick sees & is attempting to seize moderate-ground voters, someone mentioned that in a previous post - he seemed liked & respected as governor

[Edited on 11/14/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 12:02 PM
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Bill Weld is not alone
Newest “officially declared Democratic 2020 POTUS candidate” is former Mass governor Deval Patrick - crazy - guessing more will declare - including, but not limited to, Hillary (not to creep you out brer, just sayin) - since I dislike & distrust women : - good laugh

Mayb Gov Patrick sees & is attempting to seize moderate-ground voters, someone mentioned that in a previous post - he seemed liked & respected as governor

[Edited on 11/14/2019 by Stephen]


I like Gov Patrick. Not sure what makes him think he can enter now, put together an organization, and actually challenge. He will come and go similar to de Blasio - puff of smoke, non-contender, and gone.

I also doubt Bloomberg will make much inroads. Previously he was polling 2% in Iowa.

There's enough to choose from in the existing pool, and several poll over Russian Don.

But for those who clamor, there's always Hillary. The betting window is open for $100 bets that says she won't run. Anybody still posting that she will, back your posts. All winnings go to charity.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 12:45 PM
Odds are too long right now - she’s still got 2-3 mos. to decide - in the intemperate political climate, a lot can happen between now & then
She has name recognition & already has her team of people from the 2016 campaign still in place - she made a good run at it then, if the field remains anonymous she might be urged to run yet - whether she would, who knows

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 01:33 PM
I hope Nurse Ratchet doesn't run again. Getting sick of all these fossilized 20th century throwbacks. Would really like to see some young blood on deck, new ideas, new style. This oldschool kremlin hardline krap is beyond stale by now.
 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 02:19 PM
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I hope Nurse Ratchet doesn't run again


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Odds are too long right now - she’s still got 2-3 mos. to decide


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But for those who clamor, there's always Hillary.


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guessing more will declare - including, but not limited to, Hillary


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Hillary has not made that definitive statement



This is a lot of Hillary talk for someone "Who will never run again"

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 03:22 PM
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This is a lot of Hillary talk for someone "Who will never run again"


Classic trolling.

We were responding to all the noise you and Goober were making. Whatever! And why do you guys even give a crap if she runs or not? So you can still have your one reason you like Trump? Who cares?

 

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This is a lot of Hillary talk for someone "Who will never run again"


Classic trolling.

We were responding to all the noise you and Goober were making. Whatever! And why do you guys even give a crap if she runs or not? So you can still have your one reason you like Trump? Who cares?


Because I believe she will run, she can't help it. Classic "I must be in the news"....

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 03:27 PM
Great! Whoopee!! You believe Hilary will run. So? Are you gonna take MartinD28's charity bet challenge? That would almost make the subject of Hilary interesting.

[Edited on 11/14/2019 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 03:28 PM
They’re mostly mine, will stop beating that subject into the ground - didn’t wanna step up to the window just yet

Richard Nixon & Ronald Reagan succeeded in their second try at it - Hillary was quoted yesterday on Fox News that she’s “under enormous pressure to run”

All roads lead to NH in February, by way of the Iowa caucuses - then the campaigns heat up in anticipation of the DNC, while the fringe candidates throw in the towel - good Americans one & all


[Edited on 11/14/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 04:08 PM
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Great! Whoopee!! You believe Hilary will run. So? Are you gonna take MartinD28's charity bet challenge? That would almost make the subject of Hilary interesting.


Sure will and no charity here, I'll expect to be paid.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 04:26 PM
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Great! Whoopee!! You believe Hilary will run. So? Are you gonna take MartinD28's charity bet challenge? That would almost make the subject of Hilary interesting.


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Sure will and no charity here, I'll expect to be paid.



Nice. Now this is getting interesting. I'd like to wager but I have no idea what may happen. How much you stake?


 
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