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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 03:27 PM
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That's right, no way around it. It is a crisis. It is real. It is happening.


the earlier graphic shows an increase in apprehensions. it does not represent the number of people attempting to cross. this means the administration stormed into battle without an adequate plan. if they want to lead a surge in apprehensions iím all for it, but a good leader wouldíve implemented the proper infrastructure first in an attempt to be humane. incompetent leadership, which lead to the deaths of several children, is the only crisis.

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 03:37 PM
Incompetent leadership did not create this situation, it didn't start last year, or ten years ago or twenty, this is the end result of a century of Banana Republic economies tanking and gangster rule. These people are running for their lives, not just coming here to rip us off.

I was referring to the very real ongoing humanitarian crisis of influx of people, worsening conditions for detainees, this is going to get a lot worse if remedial action isn't taken.

These are human beings going down, right now, they need help and the USA is paralyzed by debate.


 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 04:52 PM
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That's right, no way around it. It is a crisis. It is real. It is happening.


the earlier graphic shows an increase in apprehensions. it does not represent the number of people attempting to cross. this means the administration stormed into battle without an adequate plan. if they want to lead a surge in apprehensions iím all for it, but a good leader wouldíve implemented the proper infrastructure first in an attempt to be humane. incompetent leadership, which lead to the deaths of several children, is the only crisis.


Strategic planning is not the way Trump manages. Good planning in support of policy is a given but not for a president that manages by impulse and by tweet. Leadership does not mean waking up in the A.M. and taking cues from the Fox & Friends Morning Show lackeys nor from bedtime chats with Sean Hannity - seriously. Real management is not nepotism & does not come from the input of your closest advisors - your daughter & son in law who have no background in domestic nor global issues other than making photo ops.

Look at the constant turnover in Trump's cabinet and the unprecedented number of positions unfilled at this point in an administration. What do people expect from a guy who ran a family real estate business that got elected on bluster and raising fears built on racism and nationalism? You certainly couldn't have expected more if you voted for or support Trump. MAGA = caveat emptor.


 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 05:30 PM
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if we don't like the idea of concentration camps


Really?...You're going to take it that far and compare the situation at the border to Treblinka & Mauthausen?

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 05:32 PM
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These are human beings going down, right now, they need help and the USA is paralyzed by debate.


There are homeless U.S. Veterans sleeping in the streets who need our help.

Priorities?

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 05:52 PM
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These are human beings going down, right now, they need help and the USA is paralyzed by debate.


There are homeless U.S. Veterans sleeping in the streets who need our help.

Priorities?


Sure are. Have been for decades now. What is being done about that?

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:13 PM
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Really?...You're going to take it that far and compare the situation at the border to Treblinka & Mauthausen?


Don't mind me. Just viewing the situation objectively and doing some simple arithmetic. As it stands at the present moment of course not. It's called extrapolation - looking at a situation and projecting with known factors. The way it is going, lots and lots of people requiring lockup, absolutely yes, it will require concentration camps to handle. They won't necessarily be as harsh as Treblinka, but could easily be comparable to past US concentration camps such as the Japanese holding facilities, or early Indian reservations - which btw is where Hitler got the idea for wholesale roundup and detention of entire populations. Lots and lots of people, mass incarceration, simple really.

Children separated from parents living in stinking cages with no protection and no rights, what do you think is happening right now to them? You know what, I don't care if you don't care, but I want to see America come through for these people.

Re your homeless veterans, yes, extremely important as well, it is a big country, sometimes we have to deal with more than one thing at a time.

Or just go into deep denial have endless arguments and vent on politicians, that's always good.

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:20 PM
What are you going to tell St. Peter when he asks you what you supported in response to this?
 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:21 PM
"They won't necessarily be as harsh as Treblinka"

I still do not understand how you can even mention these horrific places in comparison to what is happening at the border....

You ought to be ashamed

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:29 PM
https://youtu.be/aMSmoNOZJ9Y

This is why Trump will be re-elected and I'm guessing you'll see this in more than a few re-election commercials....

Fools

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:30 PM
Yeah, this is why I avoid you. I'm posting here out of genuine concern and get told to be ashamed.

Just wait, mark my words, this is heading towards concentration camps. Germans who were saying that death camps existed or might exist during WW2 were probably greeted with similar shock. If it is shameful to look directly at reality and put two and two together, then I guess I am shameless.

Way I see it, right now America has a golden opportunity to make good on its reputation, show the world that we are still heroes, and we take care of ourselves and others. Or go down in history as a bunch of heartless bastards like Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:35 PM
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Yeah, this is why I avoid you. I'm posting here out of genuine concern and get told to be ashamed.


Your "genuine concern" compared the plight of 6 Million Jews who were put to death in gas chambers with people who have overwhelmed our resources at the border. If that needs to be explained to you at all, I stand by my words, you ought to be ashamed.


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Just wait, mark my words, this is heading towards concentration camps.


Thought we should save this gem

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:36 PM
Anyway, you brought up Treblinka. So don't go after me for saying concentration camps. You put a lot of people in detention without due process its a concentration camp. The US has done it before, with the Japanese in WW2, like I said the early Indian reservations, those were concentration camps. I didn't say they were going to be full on death camps.
 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:40 PM
You're starting to sound like Muleman. You can't run from your conscience so easy, you know there is some bad stuff going on down there.




 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:42 PM
Also I didn't go for your throat and disrespect you. So back off.
 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:42 PM
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Anyway, you brought up Treblinka. So don't go after me for saying concentration camps. You put a lot of people in detention without due process its a concentration camp. The US has done it before, with the Japanese in WW2, like I said the early Indian reservations, those were concentration camps. I didn't say they were going to be full on death camps.


You could have used ANY term...please

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:46 PM
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Anyway, you brought up Treblinka. So don't go after me for saying concentration camps.


And this was your response: "Just wait, mark my words, this is heading towards concentration camps. Germans who were saying that death camps existed or might exist during WW2 were probably greeted with similar shock"

You can't have it both ways

 

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  posted on 7/2/2019 at 06:57 PM
Sorry if the term concentration camp bugs you, but that doesn't change the reality. The images out there of these so-called "detention facilities" look a lot like concentration camps to me.

from Merriam Webster:

Definition of concentration camp
: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard


[Edited on 7/3/2019 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 7/3/2019 at 08:50 PM
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Your prediction is laughable. HC is done as prez or VP candidate. I will bet you $100.00 or even $1000.00 right here right now that HC will not be on the ticket. Will you step up to the plate and back your prediction?


I really, really like this confidence.. how about 2 : 1 vp odds and 4 :1 Odds on her thinking she she can wipe the stage with this crop of crybaby candidates, with the exception of Joe Biden.

 

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  posted on 7/4/2019 at 09:42 AM
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Your prediction is laughable. HC is done as prez or VP candidate. I will bet you $100.00 or even $1000.00 right here right now that HC will not be on the ticket. Will you step up to the plate and back your prediction?


I really, really like this confidence.. how about 2 : 1 vp odds and 4 :1 Odds on her thinking she she can wipe the stage with this crop of crybaby candidates, with the exception of Joe Biden.


goob - Would you like to take the original bet offered on your love crush running as VP? You going to the Trump gala today...sitting in VIP donor section?

 

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  posted on 7/7/2019 at 09:17 AM
if trump supporters want to increase gun sales, strengthen the nra, and lower illegal border crossings, they should vote for Obama. since he left office the nra is in shambles and border crossings are at an all time high.
 

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  posted on 7/7/2019 at 09:39 AM
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if trump supporters want to increase gun sales, strengthen the nra, and lower illegal border crossings, they should vote for Obama. since he left office the nra is in shambles and border crossings are at an all time high.


So, the increase in ILLEGAL border crossing and the amount of asylum fillings has ZERO to do with the countries of origin and their failure to provide for their own citizens?

This is President Trump's fault?

Dude

 

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  posted on 7/7/2019 at 09:53 AM
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So, the increase in ILLEGAL border crossing and the amount of asylum fillings has ZERO to do with the countries of origin and their failure to provide for their own citizens?

This is President Trump's fault?

Dude


relax. im only pointing out the irony of those two facts, so thatís just your interpretation of it.

 

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  posted on 7/7/2019 at 09:59 AM
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So, the increase in ILLEGAL border crossing and the amount of asylum fillings has ZERO to do with the countries of origin and their failure to provide for their own citizens?

This is President Trump's fault?

Dude


relax. im only pointing out the irony of those two facts, so thatís just your interpretation of it.


You are noting my "interpretation" of your misuse of facts....

Interesting logic...

 

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  posted on 7/7/2019 at 12:19 PM
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Dude


Don't say dude

 
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