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  posted on 1/9/2019 at 02:39 PM
"You have to love the childish interplay between the two Parties. "Give me this or I'll".....and "Drop your demand and we'll return to the table"....Right, like that is going to accomplish anything with a Problem that has been ongoing for decades."

The sad thing, Big V, is that the parties did have a bill with enough bi-partisan support just a few weeks back. Republicans and Democrats did actually decide to work together. However, we have a THIRD force beyond the two groups of elected officials: the media. The right-wing media took Trump to task, and he folded.

 

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"You have to love the childish interplay between the two Parties. "Give me this or I'll".....and "Drop your demand and we'll return to the table"....Right, like that is going to accomplish anything with a Problem that has been ongoing for decades."

The sad thing, Big V, is that the parties did have a bill with enough bi-partisan support just a few weeks back. Republicans and Democrats did actually decide to work together. However, we have a THIRD force beyond the two groups of elected officials: the media. The right-wing media took Trump to task, and he folded.


Jim is correct. Trump was on board until the right-wing media intervened. Also Trump got a dose from the Freedom Caucus members of HOR which are little more than an extension of right wing media.

Facts matter, and this goes against the idea of "childish interplay between two parties". It is actually not Dems vs GOP. It is Trump. And it is Trump who proudly said that he'd own the shutdown. He's doing a great job of leading.

 

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The sad thing, Big V, is that the parties did have a bill with enough bi-partisan support just a few weeks back. Republicans and Democrats did actually decide to work together.


Exactly. Blaming an entire political party or affiliation is the height of laziness. Bad apples are to blame, and they are not specific to any political affiliation.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2019 at 05:30 PM
THE Speech from the Oval Office.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/08/trump-speech-read-f ull-oval-office-address-president-trump/2520124002/#annotations:16185891


My fellow Americans, tonight I am speaking to you because there is a growing humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border. Every day customs and border patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country. We are out of space to hold them and we have no way to promptly return them back home to their country.

America proudly welcomes millions of lawful immigrants who enrich our society and contribute to our nation. But all Americans are hurt by uncontrolled, illegal migration. It strains public resources and drives down jobs and wages. Among those hardest hit are African-Americans and Hispanic Americans.

Our southern border is a pipeline for vast quantities of illegal drugs including meth, heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl. Every week 300 of our citizens are killed by heroin alone, 90 percent of which floods across from our southern border. More Americans will die from drugs this year than were killed in the entire Vietnam War.

In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4000 violent killings. Over the years thousands of Americans have been brutally killed by those who illegally entered our country and thousands more lives will be lost if we don't act right now.

This is a humanitarian crisis, a crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul. Last month 20,000 migrant children were illegally brought into the United States, a dramatic increase. These children are used as human pawns by vicious coyotes and ruthless gangs. One in three women are sexually assaulted on the dangerous trek up through Mexico.

Women or children are the biggest victims by far of our broken system. This is the tragic reality of illegal immigration on our southern border. This is the cycle of human suffering that I am determined to end.

My administration has presented Congress with a detailed proposal to secure the border and stop the criminal gangs, drug smugglers and human traffickers. It's a tremendous problem. Our proposal was developed by law enforcement professionals and border agents at the Department of Homeland Security. These are the resources they have requested to properly perform their mission and keep America safe. In fact, safer than ever before.

The proposal from Homeland security includes cutting-edge technology for detecting drugs, weapons, illegal contraband, and many other things. We have requested more agents, immigration judges, and bed space to process the sharp rise in unlawful migration fueled by our very strong economy.

Our plan also contains an urgent request for humanitarian assistance and medical support. Furthermore, we have asked Congress to close border security loopholes so that illegal immigrant children can be safely and humanely returned back home.

Finally, as part of an overall approach to border security law enforcement professionals have requested $5.7 billion for a physical barrier. At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall. This barrier is absolutely critical to border security. It's also what are professionals at the border want and need.

This is just common sense. The border wall would very quickly pay for itself. The cost of illegal drugs exceeds $500 billion a year, vastly more than the $5.7 billion we have requested from Congress.

The wall will also be paid for indirectly by the great new trade to deal we have made with Mexico. Senator Chuck Schumer, who you will be hearing from later tonight, has repeatedly supported a physical barrier in the past along with many other Democrats. They changed their mind only after I was elected president. Democrats in Congress have refused to acknowledge the crisis and they have refused to provide our bright brave border agents with the tools they desperately need to protect our families and our nation.

The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only because Democrats will not fund border security. My administration is doing everything in our power to help those impacted by the situation, but the only solution is for Democrats to pass a spending bill that defends our borders and reopens of the government. This situation could be solved in a 45-minute meeting. I have invited congressional leadership to the White House tomorrow to get this done. Hopefully, we can rise above partisan politics in order to support national security.

Some have suggested that barrier is immoral. Then why do wealthy politicians build walls, fences, and gates around their homes? They don't build walls because they hate the people on the outside but because they love the people on the inside. The only thing that is immoral is the politicians to do nothing and continue to allow more innocent people to be so horribly victimized.

America's heart broke the day after Christmas when a young police officer in California was savagely murdered in cold blood by an illegal alien, who just came across the border. The life of an American hero was stolen by someone who had no right to be in our country. Day after day precious lives are cut short by those who have violated our borders.

In California, an Air Force veteran was raped, murdered, and beaten to death with a hammer by an illegal alien with a long criminal history. In Georgia, an illegal alien was recently charged with murder for killing, beheading, and dismembering his neighbor. In Maryland, MS-13 gang members who arrived in the United States as unaccompanied minors were arrested and charged last year after viciously stabbing and beating a 16-year-old girl.

Over the last several years I've met with dozens of families whose loved ones were stolen by illegal immigration. I've held the hands of the weeping mothers and embraced the grief-stricken fathers. So sad. So terrible. I will never forget the pain in their eyes, the trouble in their voices, and the sadness gripping their souls.

How much more American blood must we shed before Congress does its job? To those who refuse to compromise in the name of border security, I would ask, imagine if it was your child, your husband, or your wife whose life was so cruelly shattered and totally broken. To every member of Congress, pass a bill that in this crisis. To every citizen, call Congress and tell them to finally, after all of these decades, secure our border. This is a choice between right and wrong, justice and injustice. This is about whether we fulfill our sacred duty to the American citizens we serve. When I took the oath of office, I swore to protect our country and that is what I will always do, so help me God. Thank you and good night.


Comments: He delivered a great speech. To the point, with examples to back up why there is a serious problem and WHY we need a wall and border security. Unfortunately there are still those who will say this fact is not exact. Bottom Line, WE NEED BORDER SECURITY. Nit picking will not solve the problems of having an open, unsecured border.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2019 at 05:58 PM
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You have to love the childish interplay between the two Parties. "Give me this or I'll".....and "Drop your demand and we'll return to the table"....Right, like that is going to accomplish anything with a Problem that has been ongoing for decades. Yeah, The Democrats have a solution that will fix everything!...Right

"Trump can't read"......and Pelosi and Schumer were were wearing so much make-up they could have passed for extras in the Walking Dead.

Nice work, this is going to go on for quite a while....


Nonsense. The Republicans had control of the House and Senate and the White House the last 2 years and did not fund a border wall. Period.

 

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Well, it is very tempting to attack on looks, I had no intention of doing that, but seeing the tit for tat why not? I can't help it, when I see Trump I am struck by that "Fake Tan" orange hue, when I see his associates, 90% of them look like they come straight out of the Third Reich! I mean thsee cats look so uptight it's like they all wearing but plugs or something, waiting to go get punished by Hilga The Dominatrix.
Anyway, I didn't watch, I just have a hard time stomaching Trump, I have listened to all his scumbags and lackeys speak, but I just can't tolerate this lowlife........Peace......joe

 

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I heard nothing but facts last nite- statistics about horrible crime incidents committed by illegals.... and those are the only ones where they HAVE TO document that they are here illegally.

Both CHUCK AND NANCI are documented ON TAPE saying they are in favor of border security that included a wall.

What changed? T R U M P

 

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Facts matter, and this goes against the idea of "childish interplay between two parties".


This is exactly what is going on. It has gone on for decades and no end is in sight.....

 

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  posted on 1/9/2019 at 08:10 PM
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I just have a hard time stomaching Trump


I can't look at Pelosi and Schumer without laughing out loud.

 

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I heard nothing but facts last nite- statistics about horrible crime incidents committed by illegals.... and those are the only ones where they HAVE TO document that they are here illegally.

Both CHUCK AND NANCI are documented ON TAPE saying they are in favor of border security that included a wall.

What changed? T R U M P




If you heard nothing but facts last night, then what were you doing while Trump was speaking?

 

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What changed for the democrats? Was it because we are in the run-up to the election? Dont want to solve an issue you have been promising the American people you would reform.. Look at the Schummer Clinton and Obama quotes.

Again what changed in getting it done now?

T R U M P

 

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What changed for the democrats? Was it because we are in the run-up to the election? Dont want to solve an issue you have been promising the American people you would reform.. Look at the Schummer Clinton and Obama quotes.

Again what changed in getting it done now?

T R U M P


What changed? Trump campaigned on & on promising Mexico would pay for the wall? What changed - why should he not follow through with his campaign rhetoric? What changed, goob. Why should US taxpayers pay for the wall that Trump said Mexico would pay for?

Goob - can you provide a detailed answer?

[Edited on 1/10/2019 by MartinD28]

 

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Again what changed in getting it done now?

T R U M P


And? Point? Let the victim sob story begin.

How is this different from what happened to Obama? Isnít it kind of stupid to be shocked by this? What donít you understand?

 

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  posted on 1/9/2019 at 11:08 PM
If Donald Trump gets his wall, Mexicans will certainly follow Trump's advice from 2004..

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1083169537263054849?s=20

[Edited on 1/10/2019 by 2112]

 

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I just have a hard time stomaching Trump


I can't look at Pelosi and Schumer without laughing out loud.


To my Good Brothers and Sisters here who are Trump supporters, I have tryed to remain as verbally as appropriate as I could here, but I gotta admit, Your boy is really motherf*ckin stoopid! I am 55yrs old never went to college and have worked 34 yrs in the same factory, I am pretty much brain dead, yet I would lay 2 to 1 money that on a High School SAT test, I would smoke Your "champion's" fat ass!! Seriously wish we could pull that off.......Peace.......joe

 

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Does anybody here think that we DO NOT need a border wall for border security?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/21-bodies-found-us-mexico-border-trump-visits-18 2250452.html

Mexico City (AFP) - Mexican authorities said Thursday they had found 21 bodies on the US-Mexican border after a drug-gang shootout in a town near where President Donald Trump was due to visit later in the day.
McAllen, where he was meeting with border patrol agents, sits across from Tamaulipas. The US State Department has issued its most severe travel warning for the state because of violent crime, classifying it alongside countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

More than 200,000 people have been murdered in Mexico since the government deployed the army to fight the country's powerful drug cartels in 2006, including a record 28,711 in 2017.


Remarks: But Nancy Pelosi thinks a border wall is immoral for us to put up.

[Edited on 1/10/2019 by gina]

 

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  posted on 1/10/2019 at 06:49 PM
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Does anybody here think that we DO NOT need a border wall for border security?


We DO NOT need a wall for border security.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2019 at 06:51 PM
No, we do not need a wall. I'm not opposed to having additional barriers along the border in places, but a wall along the entire border is unnecessary and a waste of money.

And of all the threats to our country, I wouldn't put a few Mexicans entering our country to pick our fields anywhere near the top of the list. I guess I'm not as scared of people with brown skin as most Trump supporters. Illegal aliens are a problem, but not as big a problem as budget deficits, mass shootings, health care, and lying presidents.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2019 at 07:20 PM
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I'm not opposed to having additional barriers along the border in places, but a wall along the entire border is unnecessary and a waste of money.



good start. I think that if there were porous sections that should be a no-brainer that a wall is needed. Think of all the patroling, riding around wasting man-power to police open stretches. Build a wall its more cost effective and reassign these agents to focus on drugs, tunnels, coyotes, etc. instead of lassoing and rounding up migrant herds. Modern day cowboys I guess.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2019 at 07:40 PM
W's 2006 Secure Fence Act authorized a barrier across the border. Less than a year later, Congress recognized that technology could more securely, efficiently, and effectively serve the purpose of a physical barrier over varying topography & the Act was amended: no specific building material, no specific type of barrier (physical v electronic v TBD).

In sum, 17 years ago, Republicans acknowledged that requiring a physical barrier made of a specific material was an outdated concept & enacted legislation that said so.


 

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"W's 2006 Secure Fence Act authorized a barrier across the border. Less than a year later, Congress recognized that technology could more securely, efficiently, and effectively serve the purpose of a physical barrier over varying topography & the Act was amended: no specific building material, no specific type of barrier (physical v electronic v TBD).

In sum, 17 years ago, Republicans acknowledged that requiring a physical barrier made of a specific material was an outdated concept & enacted legislation that said so. "

Thank you. Goob and Gina, please read the above quotation, and then sign to indicate that you did read it and did understand it.

I keep seeing strawman arguments here:

"Democrats are against border security."

No, they are against a wildly expensive WALL. There really are other kinds of border security.

"Democrats used to want a big concrete wall, but suddenly now they are just being anti-Trump."

No, they never wanted a big concrete wall, but they have always wanted border security.

 

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17 years ago? No good to compare a 2001 stock against 2018 value. It works the same with this comparison. In order to draw that conclusion below they had to have some illegal immigration data to work with. The crossings now are probably 10X what it used to be. Look at the recent herd from Central America. 1000's crossing in a day or two.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2019 at 08:19 PM
The latest from President Shutdown

"President Trump has been briefed about using disaster-relief money meant to help storm-soaked Puerto Rico and fire-ravaged California to build his border wall, according to a report."

What a guy he is. He's basically telling the people of real emergencies & disasters in Puerto Rico & California to go "f" yourselves so he can build his wall for his fabricated emergency that he promised Mexico would pay for.

That's today. Tomorrow will bring another chaotic issue by Putin's little bitch. Everyday it's something new with that clown.

https://nypost.com/2019/01/10/trump-may-use-puerto-rico-california-disaster -funds-to-build-border-wall/

 

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17 years ago? No good to compare a 2001 stock against 2018 value. It works the same with this comparison. In order to draw that conclusion below they had to have some illegal immigration data to work with. The crossings now are probably 10X what it used to be. Look at the recent herd from Central America. 1000's crossing in a day or two.


Please tell me you are just trolling.

 

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What a guy he is. He's basically telling the people of real emergencies & disasters in Puerto Rico & California to go "f" yourselves so he can build his wall for his fabricated emergency that he promised Mexico would pay for.

That's today. Tomorrow will bring another chaotic issue by Putin's little bitch. Everyday it's something new with that clown.


Clown - or carny barker - he may be, but it's disgraceful that we - whatever political affiliation we may have - are not rising up against this man who is literally ruining the lives of human beings. He's passing out candy while federal workers & disaster victims suffer.

 
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