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  posted on 12/11/2018 at 09:27 PM
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really who knows what the future holds!


Exciting times, to say the least. Glad I lived long enough to see the show.

 

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  posted on 12/11/2018 at 09:33 PM
As a child, I never really knew how many people hated Reagan. Being a teenager when HW lost to Clinton the only thing I thought people didn't like about him was he wasn't hip and cool like Bill was. Then I got into news and opinion and all and I saw all that went on during the Clinton years and the W years and the Obama years and now the Trump years. The level of hatred and discontent with each President gets higher and higher and higher each term. Certainly seems like it can't get any higher than it can right now, but something tells me it probably will.

Whether or not Trump should be impeached I can't say right now. Maybe all the conflicts of interest are enough, maybe not. Maybe the campaign finance stuff is enough, maybe not. Maybe Mueller will come up with enough, maybe not. But if it were to happen I am pretty sure it will be galvanizing on the right the **** is going to fly everywhere and could even undermine a potential Democrat 2020 Presidency win if the backlash on the right is strong enough.....who knows....but yeah, very interesting times. Going to hell in a bucket, at least enjoy the ride.

 

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  posted on 12/11/2018 at 09:34 PM
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Well, it's almost time, this should be interesting..........Peace.......joe

[Edited on 12/9/2018 by crazyjoe]


This means alot, coming from someone who believed she wiped her server with a cloth.






 

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  posted on 12/11/2018 at 10:05 PM
ďHerĒ........how creepy.
 

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  posted on 12/11/2018 at 11:37 PM
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I believe very early on actually and remember posting it here that I didn't think Trump would run again because he couldn't stand to lose it now that he won it. Very difficult to see him winning reelection and one would have to think that he can see or will see as much a year from now. I could see him finding a way to get out of it. Of course maybe he'll get impeached or indicted...with this Presidency, really who knows what the future holds!


I believed early on that he would be stunned to find out he wasn't king & couldn't do whatever he wanted, anxious about the ability of his kids to actually make all the deals he was technically prevented from doing, and so bored of watching TV/eating chips every night he'd quit after 6 weeks. I was wrong. Some days, I still think he's just going to say, "Screw this. I'd rather be in Trump Tower than the White House. This job is for losers."

 

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  posted on 12/12/2018 at 04:24 AM
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I believe very early on actually and remember posting it here that I didn't think Trump would run again because he couldn't stand to lose it now that he won it. Very difficult to see him winning reelection and one would have to think that he can see or will see as much a year from now. I could see him finding a way to get out of it. Of course maybe he'll get impeached or indicted...with this Presidency, really who knows what the future holds!


He will run again and he will not resign, and here's why. I just read an article (on Fox News of all places) that talks about the state of NY has been investigating Trump as part of the Cohen investigation. It is clear that they (NY) have enough evidence to indict Trump on campaign finance crimes. However, they can not indict a sitting president. So, if Trump serves only one term, they can indict Trump after he leaves office. If he serves a second term, the statute of limitations will have expired and he will have nothing to worry about.

 

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He will run again and he will not resign, and here's why. I just read an article (on Fox News of all places) that talks about the state of NY has been investigating Trump as part of the Cohen investigation. It is clear that they (NY) have enough evidence to indict Trump on campaign finance crimes. However, they can not indict a sitting president. So, if Trump serves only one term, they can indict Trump after he leaves office. If he serves a second term, the statute of limitations will have expired and he will have nothing to worry about.


There are both federal & state charges that could await DJT if he leaves office before the SOL runs. However, they aren't so air-tight that they would necessarily be charged never mind successfully prosecuted. Even if he were charged, DJT would believe he'd beat them. I don't think DJT is worried about them.

My scenario is merely wishful thinking.

 

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  posted on 12/12/2018 at 07:57 AM
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I believe very early on actually and remember posting it here that I didn't think Trump would run again because he couldn't stand to lose it now that he won it. Very difficult to see him winning reelection and one would have to think that he can see or will see as much a year from now. I could see him finding a way to get out of it. Of course maybe he'll get impeached or indicted...with this Presidency, really who knows what the future holds!


He will run again and he will not resign, and here's why. I just read an article (on Fox News of all places) that talks about the state of NY has been investigating Trump as part of the Cohen investigation. It is clear that they (NY) have enough evidence to indict Trump on campaign finance crimes. However, they can not indict a sitting president. So, if Trump serves only one term, they can indict Trump after he leaves office. If he serves a second term, the statute of limitations will have expired and he will have nothing to worry about.

Trump running again does not guarantee him a victory. He galvanized many different factions of the population to come out in record numbers to vote against the GOP in midterms. His tweets, big mouth, lies, and supporting dictators are probably enough for the electorate to see a repeat if he runs again. Michigan, PA, and Wisconsin shifted in the midterms, and those are the marginal votes that gave him his victory. Doubtful those 3 states will vote for him next time. One term for Dictator Don. MAGA.

 

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  posted on 12/12/2018 at 12:58 PM
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He will run again and he will not resign, and here's why. I just read an article (on Fox News of all places) that talks about the state of NY has been investigating Trump as part of the Cohen investigation. It is clear that they (NY) have enough evidence to indict Trump on campaign finance crimes. However, they can not indict a sitting president. So, if Trump serves only one term, they can indict Trump after he leaves office. If he serves a second term, the statute of limitations will have expired and he will have nothing to worry about.


There are both federal & state charges that could await DJT if he leaves office before the SOL runs. However, they aren't so air-tight that they would necessarily be charged never mind successfully prosecuted. Even if he were charged, DJT would believe he'd beat them. I don't think DJT is worried about them.

My scenario is merely wishful thinking.


Maybe Trump is confident that lawyers could beat the charges. He does hire only the best lawyers, like Rudy Giuliani and Michael Cohen. I'm sure he has nothing to worry about.

 

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  posted on 12/12/2018 at 05:36 PM
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He will run again and he will not resign, and here's why. I just read an article (on Fox News of all places) that talks about the state of NY has been investigating Trump as part of the Cohen investigation. It is clear that they (NY) have enough evidence to indict Trump on campaign finance crimes. However, they can not indict a sitting president. So, if Trump serves only one term, they can indict Trump after he leaves office. If he serves a second term, the statute of limitations will have expired and he will have nothing to worry about.


There are both federal & state charges that could await DJT if he leaves office before the SOL runs. However, they aren't so air-tight that they would necessarily be charged never mind successfully prosecuted. Even if he were charged, DJT would believe he'd beat them. I don't think DJT is worried about them.

My scenario is merely wishful thinking.


Maybe Trump is confident that lawyers could beat the charges. He does hire only the best lawyers, like Rudy Giuliani and Michael Cohen. I'm sure he has nothing to worry about.

 

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  posted on 12/12/2018 at 06:17 PM
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Iíve thought a lot about this and honestly I donít know if impeachment is the best option. Yes Trump is an embarassament and a disgusting human but his impeachment would just radicalize his racist, gun toting psychotic supporters.

Not only do we have to worry about the cultural backlash of the Nazi scum having their fearless spokesman impeached but we then have an unstable hate filled religious zealot like Mike Pence in the Oval Office, and what will be his first move, pardon Trump of course.


Iíll take Penceís politics just to get rid of Trump. As for a pardon? Fine, just go away and go back to building hotels. As for his supporters, let them throw their tantrums, and let them get arrested for whatever they try, and let them ruin their own lives. The law will always prevail as Mueller is proving. The strong will always survive. Let them expose themselves and self-destruct.


You know you may be onto something. We could build luxury hotels on the US side of the border and let the undocumented work in them for pennies on the dollar, give them substandard housing and see if they want to stay in this country.

 

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  posted on 12/12/2018 at 06:18 PM
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I believe very early on actually and remember posting it here that I didn't think Trump would run again because he couldn't stand to lose it now that he won it. Very difficult to see him winning reelection and one would have to think that he can see or will see as much a year from now. I could see him finding a way to get out of it. Of course maybe he'll get impeached or indicted...with this Presidency, really who knows what the future holds!


I believed early on that he would be stunned to find out he wasn't king & couldn't do whatever he wanted, anxious about the ability of his kids to actually make all the deals he was technically prevented from doing, and so bored of watching TV/eating chips every night he'd quit after 6 weeks. I was wrong. Some days, I still think he's just going to say, "Screw this. I'd rather be in Trump Tower than the White House. This job is for losers."


Like Jake and Elwood he's on a mission from God!

 

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  posted on 12/13/2018 at 07:19 AM
Ladies and gentlemen I give you Gina, the thread killer, no ability to comment on the topic but always good for a few digs at Hispanic people.
 

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  posted on 12/17/2018 at 12:25 PM
Ethnicity has nothing to do with it. The problem is a group of people want to come here and just get housing, medical benefits and good jobs. They want to come in illegally and then receive these things. They happen to be Central Americans, they could be any other group. They think they can just push their way in and then America has to take care of them. No other country allows that why should we? On a humanitarian basis? They are not from countries where war is going on, they are not refugees, they just choose to want to leave their lands and go someplace else. Well there are jobs in Mexico and other countries where they could work. They could go to the coastlines and work in resorts in Mexico the same way they would work in restaurants or hotels here. They could find factories in Mexico where many US jobs have went and work there. They could raise their own standards of living by migrating to countries, towns and cities with better jobs, housing, but they don't have to come thousands of miles to here to do that.

 

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  posted on 12/17/2018 at 01:06 PM
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They are not from countries where war is going on, they are not refugees, they just choose to want to leave their lands


The Central American "Northern Triangle" has the highest rate of homicide and violence in the world. It is a war zone. Completely destabilized by narco gang wars and police state retaliation - heavily funded by the US, also fueled by US and European demand for cocaine and heroin.

Educate yourself:

http://www.thebrokeronline.eu/Articles/Drugs-and-violence-in-the-Northern-T riangle

 

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  posted on 12/21/2018 at 10:29 AM
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They are not from countries where war is going on, they are not refugees, they just choose to want to leave their lands


The Central American "Northern Triangle" has the highest rate of homicide and violence in the world. It is a war zone. Completely destabilized by narco gang wars and police state retaliation - heavily funded by the US, also fueled by US and European demand for cocaine and heroin.

Educate yourself:

http://www.thebrokeronline.eu/Articles/Drugs-and-violence-in-the-Northern-T riangle


They are not refugees.... hahahahahah!
If it has nothing to do with ethnicity why is it that you always target Hispanic people? Why donít you post another comment about s*** burritos? If you want to be a xenophobe thatís your right, but donít try to hide it

 

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  posted on 12/21/2018 at 11:04 AM
It's my opinion, that the Republican leaders (that remain), should physically storm the White House and drag this orange pile of sh!t from the premises and reclaim what's left of Their party!!! Pence just has the look of a dumbfounded lost puppy dog, better than Trump (as pretty much all human beings are), but he still wouldn't be Your long term guy to restore, any semblance of respectability to the party, I still believe there are good solid genuine Folks on both sides, but reason, consideration of others, honesty and pretty much all come under serious attack in the last 2 years.......Peace.......joe
 

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  posted on 1/4/2019 at 09:54 AM
I think itís a big mistake if Democrats pursue impeachment, especially before the conclusion of the Mueller investigation. I donít see any justification unless Mueller determines Trump committed a crime. If they begin the impeachment process, and Mueller comes up empty on Trump himself, then Democrats will have zero chance to win in 2020.



[Edited on 1/4/2019 by BoytonBrother]

 

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  posted on 1/4/2019 at 10:49 AM
Yeah, I just read a bit, I guess it's not something to be pursued lightly, it's a serious matter with all types of implications, the small piece i read said impeachment should be used in a non-partisan, non-political type way, when the evidence of violations or comprouse of integrity, the type that threatens or National integrity or safety or world position...I would say that we, while maybe not there yet, are approaching a point where there is no choice but for Democrats to start proceedings to save our Country from complete devastation from this terrifically corrupt administration???.......Peace........joe
 

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  posted on 1/4/2019 at 11:19 AM
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I think itís a big mistake if Democrats pursue impeachment, especially before the conclusion of the Mueller investigation. I donít see any justification unless Mueller determines Trump committed a crime. If they begin the impeachment process, and Mueller comes up empty on Trump himself, then Democrats will have zero chance to win in 2020.



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Agree. I think they should wait on Mueller & follow his lead / findings. I'm thinking they need to be methodical in approach to impeaching Banana Republic Don.

I am concerned that if it gets to this & if there is ample cause that the GOP Senate will still turn their backs. They have been nothing but enablers of Trumpco so far, and my feeling is the only thing that would make them come to senses is if they see their own seats and humongous benefits in jeopardy.

I do think that the next year & few months will show more damage that Trump has inflicted and hopefully voters will be smart enough this time to realize how destructive & dangerous Trump has been. I think the mid terms are an indication of what to expect.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2019 at 11:28 AM

The ultra right extremist posts here dropped off precipitously after the midterms.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2019 at 12:32 PM
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I am concerned that if it gets to this & if there is ample cause that the GOP Senate will still turn their backs. They have been nothing but enablers of Trumpco so far, and my feeling is the only thing that would make them come to senses is if they see their own seats and humongous benefits in jeopardy.


That would be horrible, but if Mueller charges that Trump knew in advance and gave Russia the green light to send the emails to Wikileaks, or whatever the theory is, then I can't imagine any Senator turning a blind eye to that, but what do I know about Washington. I guess anything is possible these days.

I still can't understand why Trump supporters seem to accept "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you cyber-attack the American government, you'll be rewarded by our media." Imagine hearing a candidate say that, and then voting for him........because they didn't like being name-called by liberals. Way to rise above it conservatives!!! You sure showed us all, lol.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2019 at 12:37 PM
Democrats in Washington should forget about impeachment unless Mueller finds something on him, and only focus on a winning strategy in 2020 with a winning candidate, that's it. I'm afraid they will blow it again unfortunately, unless a young newcomer brings their A-game like Obama did, but that's a longshot. What I fear is a Trump-bashing competition, instead of being inspirational with HOW they will create positive change. Learn from Obama.
 

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  posted on 1/4/2019 at 01:58 PM
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Democrats in Washington should forget about impeachment unless Mueller finds something on him, and only focus on a winning strategy in 2020 with a winning candidate, that's it. I'm afraid they will blow it again unfortunately, unless a young newcomer brings their A-game like Obama did, but that's a longshot. What I fear is a Trump-bashing competition, instead of being inspirational with HOW they will create positive change. Learn from Obama.


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The Dems appear to have kept it off the table unless Mueller finds an impeachable offense. He's already an unindicted party in the SDNY & no one is using that as impeachment leverage.

There are plenty of state (NY plus 2 others) investigations going that could result in criminal charges v. DJT. It's wrong to blithely assume that a sitting president can't be indicted. Anyone relying on that isn't relying on law. It's an internal DOJ MEMO. I'd rather hear that announced by SCOTUS.

I wish the newbie Dems would watch & listen for at least a week before running their mouths. No one needs to publicly call DJT "expletive deleted." I, too, wish there was more "doing" than "criticizing" & "jaw-dropping" by both parties. Seems the only ones who speak up have left or are on the way out except Romney & his piece was about character not policy.

One pundit said Warren has already mis-stepped by talking about what she will "fight for" when the country in general is tired of fighting. We [used to] expect legislatures & presidents to govern & lead not battle internally.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2019 at 02:12 PM
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the country in general is tired of fighting.


Not a good time to be tired of fighting. This is just the beginning. Trump needs to be called out - the reason it sounds like bashing is that he really is that bad.

 
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