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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 06:29 PM
Yep, The Meal Ticket, Lefty Grove, the Big Unit, Glavine - names I knew I was overlooking, esp the 1st two - what greats - but none greater than Warren - shoot he holds the career record for HRs by a pitcher (35) - also read somewhere, he’d chill between innings sometimes w/a Camel non filter

[Edited on 4/30/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 4/30/2020 at 07:32 PM
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Yep, The Meal Ticket, Lefty Grove, the Big Unit, Glavine - names I knew I was overlooking, esp the 1st two - what greats - but none greater than Warren - shoot he holds the career record for HRs by a pitcher (35) - also read somewhere, he’d chill between innings sometimes w/a Camel non filter

[Edited on 4/30/2020 by Stephen]


Yeah, Spahn could definitely hit. A lot of guys back then weren't instant outs. Regarding the smoking, he would have gotten along well with Earl Weaver and Jim Leyland.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2020 at 08:27 AM
good point!
Shoot tho - it’s never been topped - the young and the old, crossing paths on the same field
The greatest pitching in doubleheader history
On This Day, 1955 - I remember it well, was 2 mos old

Place, the Lady by the Lake, Municipal Stadium - opponent, BoSox
In the last great outing of his career, that farm boy from Van Meter, IA, Bob Feller, 37, pitches his 12th one-hitter - a record that will never be broken

As Bob looks on in the 2nd game, fireballing rookie LHP Herb Score, in one of the 1st starts of his career, fans the 1st 9 batters en route to a 4 hitter w/16 Ks
Probly coulda recited as a kid, most of Gene Schoor’s biography of Bob, I read it so often


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  posted on 5/1/2020 at 05:25 PM
Well, the subject Is fireballing Tribe lefties/one-hitters etc SOOO
Note to the This Day In Baseball folks:
*Love the website
*Sudden Sam Was Not A Righty

That’s how they mention him re May 1, 1966 - it’s OK, there’s too much good info there to quibble about a bust, biggie tho it is

Sam, you see, was that good - like fearsome prototype relievah Dick “The Monster” Radatz, Sam was flat Scary out there on the mound - like Feller, a heater you could only hear not see & certainly not hit - he was everything Herb Score woulda been if not for Herb’s awful injury

Word, Sam on this day pitched his 2nd consecutive one-hitter
A shame indeed he & the Mon-stah had such short primes

 

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  posted on 5/1/2020 at 06:34 PM
Stephen - I thought of you the other day with all of the info you have. Did you ever read the book "The Glory of Their Times" by Lawrence Ritter? Came out in 1966. If not, you need to get it. Fascinating stories on many players I had never even heard of.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2020 at 06:54 PM
Yeah, Sudden Sam McDowell was great. I good friend of mine who recently passed was from Cleveland and of course, spoke highly of him.

And Herb Score, what could have happened with him?

 

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  posted on 5/1/2020 at 07:39 PM
BIf his whole career had gone the way it did b4 his accident.....Herb woulda continued where Rapid Robert was leaving it off - he woulda been in only his 10th year or so when Sam Suddenly showed up - a tandem?, omgosh :feedemaspirins:

Great book that I should have on my shelf - & haven’t read in too long too - Eddie Plank, Rube Waddell, the late (as mentioned in book of course) Addie Joss, of course the greats, the Bambino, Matty, Honus Wagner, Cobb, Speaker etc - the travel on those rickety Pullman trains - really gotta read that again, good mention

Shoot one more Lee - On This Day yes but indirectly bro
Yogi
Now manager-player of the crosstown Mets, plays the 1st of what will be 4 games this season

Point being, In one of those 3 remaining games (unsure which), as he dons his catcher’s gear & goes out there, on the mound is a familiar face
Spahnie
Greatness? Ya that’s an automatic W
In the good ol days (hehe)

How-ever - Warren was now 44, & Yogi almost 40 - on the woebegone Mets....
Gotta look up more details of this one - know I read it somewhere - could be both the oldest And greatest battery ever to take the field


[Edited on 5/2/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 5/1/2020 at 08:04 PM
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Shoot one more Lee - On This Day yes but indirectly bro


[Edited on 5/2/2020 by Stephen]


One hit his first homer as a Yankee.

One broke the stolen base record.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2020 at 09:20 AM
Will you watch this is it is on TV?

https://sports.yahoo.com/a-kbo-primer-what-you-need-to-know-to-enjoy-the-re turn-of-baseball-in-south-korea-171739497.html

 

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  posted on 5/4/2020 at 08:52 AM
Unsure......probly not I guess - am as bummed about no Vt Mountaineers NECBL schedule as much as no Sox

& the PawSox - their 50th & final year at Pawtucket’s McCoy Stadium b4 their move uptown next year to Woostah - down the drain - sad way to end it


[Edited on 5/4/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 5/5/2020 at 08:15 AM
In 1904, Red Sox RHP Cy Young, 37, throws a perfect game, beating Rube Waddell & the Philadelphia A’s 3-0 in the 1st no hitter since the distance between the mound and home plate was extended from 45 feet to 60 feet 6 inches in 1893

16 total bases - 3 HR, a double & 2 singles - that’s what Detroit player-manager Ty Cobb, 38, had 95 years ago today at Sportsman Park, St.L - in legend, the Georgia Peach predicted to newsmen b4 the game how easy it was to hit HRs & watch this....

So these 2 legends, still great - same Warren Spahn, 44 (again...he too was that great), who in one of the last great games of his career tosses a 1-0 4-hitter vs Phillies - one of the hits however is an HR to RHP Jim Bunning, who makes it stand for the W

Finally, 10 years have got behind me, hehe
Sox fans give it up for Nomah, who retires in 2010 after signing a one-day contract to retire w/his original team on Nomar Garciaparra Day

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  posted on 5/5/2020 at 09:13 AM
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Shoot one more Lee - On This Day yes but indirectly bro
Yogi
Now manager-player of the crosstown Mets, plays the 1st of what will be 4 games this season

Point being, In one of those 3 remaining games (unsure which), as he dons his catcher’s gear & goes out there, on the mound is a familiar face
Spahnie


Incorrect - Yogi came aboard as player coach - Casey was still manager at this time, but would be replaced midseason by Wes Westrum after the Ol’ Perfessor fell & broke his hip celebrating his 75th birthday

Yogi indeed played 4 games only for Mets, all in April according to internet - but dang, imagine it - those three geezers, one from the deadball era no less - Stengel, Spahn, Berra, workin a game in 1965 - plus, Casey was Warren’s 1st manager way back when in Boston

will update post if that game did actually happen
Chris Cannizzaro was Warren’s catcher in this game

[Edited on 5/5/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 5/5/2020 at 03:52 PM
If you are talking to me, I think we misunderstood each other. I meant things that happened on that particular day. Babe Ruth hit his first homer as a Yankee and Rickey Henderson broke Lou Brock's stolen base record.

Nothing to do with Yogi.

 

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  posted on 5/5/2020 at 06:39 PM
Whoops, my bad, that was confusing - wanted to correct erroneous Yogi info I’d posted - got it mixed up w/that cool Rickey H/Ruth info
Looked it up, apparently the Spahn-Berra battery never happened in their brief time w/Casey on the Mets

 

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  posted on 5/6/2020 at 10:35 AM
It’s virtual everything now so gamers know where they were & what they were doing on This day alright (2010) - the go-to greatest in virtual history as Mobile Alabama’s Wade McGillberry, 23, playing an MLB 2K10 video game, wins $1 million by pitching a perfect game - in 90 min no less

On the field, Tim Wakefield, 42, & Mike Timlin, 41, become the 1st over-40 tandem in the post-1900 era to combine on a shutout, 5-0 over Det (2008)

On this his 89th birthday, all bball fans know where Willie Mays stands - At The Top - happy birthday to The Say Hey Kid

 

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  posted on 5/7/2020 at 06:13 PM
That's good useless yet interesting trivia about Wakefield & Timlin. And of course it was against the terrible Tiggers.

I liked Wakefield with the Pirates when they had a good team.

 

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  posted on 5/7/2020 at 06:38 PM
Willie was the man - he, McCovey, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Yastrzemski -
.....since their time only Barry Bonds imo has deserved to be in the same sentence - yes McGwire, Sosa, Palmieri had tremendous #s - but still weren’t the all around players those guys were, esp Mays -

Bonds was tremendous offensively throuout his career, & the same defensively thru most of it - averaged somewhere around 35 SB thru the 1st 12 years of his career, something none of those other guys even touched

So was always amused when people lumped Barry in w/those other guys - bulked up lumbering one-way power hitters - “he only broke the HR record b/c of steroids” etc etc
those same fans, for instance, would call Zeppelin heavy metal & the Brothers, southern rock


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  posted on 5/7/2020 at 07:46 PM
Those 60s guys you mentioned were awesome. I have a couple good friends who are older and baseball die hards like me and I've told them I wish I had been born then and had seen those guys play.

Others too. Colavito, Kaline, Frank Howard, Bobby Bonds, Oliva. Probably others we aren't thinking of.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2020 at 10:22 AM
Lee and I talked about a sports memorabilia auction last month in the NFL thread.

Thought some of you might like to see current listings from two other auction houses:

https://memorylaneinc.com/site/Lots/Gallery?order=2

https://www.milehighcardco.com/catalog.aspx

Mile High has a Hank Aaron card bid up to $127k. It is graded a PSA 9. By comparison, Memory Lane's auction has the same card graded a PSA 8 and it is just currently at $17k. They generate rarity now in terms of what a grading company says it is and then the overall population of that grade in the universe creates incredible premiums for people wanting the one and only of something. Or in the case of the Aaron 9, it is one of three.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2020 at 10:38 AM
A Shoeless Joe card fetched $492,000 - what a great - his last year was his best, .382 w/20 triples - leaving him w/a mere .356 lifetime BA - statistically he’s a charter HOFer hands down

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  posted on 5/12/2020 at 06:28 PM
Cubs rookie RHP Sam “Toothpick” Jones walked the bases full in the top of the 9th
Then, showing poise beyond his years, he fans Dick Groat, Roberto Clemente & Frank Thomas on this day in 1955 at Wrigley Field to preserve his no-hitter & become the 1st black player & 9th rookie to accomplish the feat

The crowd wasn’t going crazy as the kid’s nerves got to him & he walked em full leading off the 9th - w/less than 3,000 in attendance, there was no crowd

same thing 15 years hence, where just 5,264 were on hand to see Ernie Banks, 39, hit the 500th HR of his career - one of the umps, Frank Secory, was also one of the umps in the 1955 game when Mr. Cub hit his first HR

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  posted on 5/13/2020 at 07:12 PM
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Lee and I talked about a sports memorabilia auction last month in the NFL thread.

Thought some of you might like to see current listings from two other auction houses:

https://memorylaneinc.com/site/Lots/Gallery?order=2

https://www.milehighcardco.com/catalog.aspx

Mile High has a Hank Aaron card bid up to $127k. It is graded a PSA 9. By comparison, Memory Lane's auction has the same card graded a PSA 8 and it is just currently at $17k. They generate rarity now in terms of what a grading company says it is and then the overall population of that grade in the universe creates incredible premiums for people wanting the one and only of something. Or in the case of the Aaron 9, it is one of three.


I've said this ever since the grading services came out. I think it's been a racket of sorts. Pretty sure most people that are serious collectors could probably tell you the condition of a card. But I suppose if you are trying to sell a rare/valuable card and if you can get more money if it is graded, then I guess you pay to have it done.

 

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  posted on 5/14/2020 at 06:47 PM
Mickey Mantle hit his 500th HR May 14, 1967
The numbers he would’ve had w/a healthy career - scary, & how can one not mention Bobby Orr in this respect too - No Question that w/healthy knees he woulda played at His level for 8-10 more years or so & owned most of the records - no reason to think differently w/the Commerce Comet either

Yep Mickey & Ted Williams imo would be Top-5 yet in multiple categories w/full careers

 

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  posted on 5/14/2020 at 08:06 PM
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I've said this ever since the grading services came out. I think it's been a racket of sorts. Pretty sure most people that are serious collectors could probably tell you the condition of a card. But I suppose if you are trying to sell a rare/valuable card and if you can get more money if it is graded, then I guess you pay to have it done.


There have been grading scandals. The FBI got involved in at least one where dealer(s) were submitting cards to be graded that were either purposefully over graded or the cards were altered, as in trimmed or enhanced/fixed, to make them appear better and the grading companies either looked the other way or were in on it.

So some people have soured over grading, but many still like it. I have only ever sent one card away to a company, I needed it reholdered as the case was a little damaged.

Some people collect entire sets of graded cards seeking an entire set in say a 9 or whatever grade.

Every now and then I visit a sports card forum. People show a picture of a recently graded card and then people post as to whether they think the grade and condition was right or not. So it is all subjective. You might say a card is NM, I might say it is ExMt. You might value centering more than I do, I might value other attributes. Just like anything else.

From the Mile High auction which is ending tonight. 77 Griffey Upper Deck rookies at $8695 all graded. There are lots of rumors about how Upper Deck went back and cranked out thousands of Griffey rookies on sheets. Never-the-less that card remains in demand.

A Gem Mint 10 Derek Jeter rookie is at $111k. Pretty crazy. I guess that specific brand is known to have it's borders chipped easily and was produced in lesser quantities than other Jeter rookies. I just don't know who would want to spend that much money on a card. But the rarity of the grade makes people chase these things so they can claim they have the only whatever grade it is.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2020 at 03:41 PM
Happy 67th birthday to the greatest baseball player of all time, GEORGE BRETT!

 

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