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  posted on 1/18/2020 at 01:28 PM
What about the 1951 WS - that season the Giants used a spyglass-and-buzzer system to steal catchers’ signals & tip off their hitters

Giants coach Herman Franks was stationed in the home clubhouse, above the 483 foot mark in CF - from a darkened window he spied on catchers with a telescope, then relayed the signs........

it was a better system, Dodgers great Carl Erskine, 93, recalled in a recent article, than all of today’s hi-tech nonsense

So yes, the famed Shot Heard Round The World 1951 WS, will soon-enough have an asterisk by it or be officially removed from the record books yadada.......

The Babe, Mickey Mantle, so many others - they’d often be hung over beyond recognition when suiting up for games - Ty Cobb, the greatest hitter of them all, was also an avowed racist - yes many were in that era but he Really was (in fairness he greatly softened his stance on this in his later life) - why shouldn’t they too be similarly accused.......

It’s all too far off the deep end for me - some called it gamesmanship, it’s now considered cheating like everything else......it’s a lotta baloney in my view - impugning Tom Yawkey b/c the Sox were last to sign a black player, or b/c they didn’t sign Jackie R when he tried out for them - unbelievable

Just open.a new HOF, Criteria, STATS & Stats Alone
Charter members, Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe, the Rocket, Barry Bonds.......


[Edited on 1/18/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 1/19/2020 at 08:03 AM
I just read that article about 'oisk (Erskine). To me, he sounds like he thinks much ado about nothing.

Some of your other thoughts I find interesting. Was Ty Cobb racist? Well, yeah.

Why were the Red Sox the last team to sign an African American? No idea, they just were. Who was the first American League team to sign an African American? Cleveland, Larry Doby.

Should some of the guys you mention be in The HOF? I find that a fun discussion. I have a good friend that thinks none of the players that supposedly cheated should not be in the HOF. I am more of the let bygones be bygones. When I played, we did everything we could to win. If we got away with it, more power to us.

I suppose it depends on your point of view.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2020 at 03:08 PM
Glad I am not a Mets fan. Rojas is stepping into this?

 

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  posted on 2/2/2020 at 07:30 AM
Okay, spring training is just around the corner and you guys let this drop to page two?

We all know Boston is in shambles. Do they have a manager?

Does Larry Walker belong in The HOF?

Are the Tiggers going to win it all?

 

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  posted on 2/5/2020 at 07:30 AM
Not a good time to be a Red Sox fan. Can't believe they traded Betts. And while I know he is a great player, Jeff Passan was just on ESPN and he was talking about his "greatness" if you will. He said he was better than David Ortiz (I'll give him that) and Carl Yastrzemski. Sorry, but I have a hard time with that one. Better than Yaz? I don't think so.

 

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  posted on 2/19/2020 at 11:44 AM
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Not a good time to be a Red Sox fan.


It gives me vertigo - Verdugo, one of the players in the Mookie trade, has been diagnosed with “a stress fracture in his spine” - he ain’t alone, every one of em has the same thing - Sox said they knew about it b4 trading for him
Chris Sale has “pneumonia-induced weakness” & both players may not be in opening day lineup

All nothing new, but not renewing Brock Holt - Sox will be kicking themselves - if healthy he’ll be a valuable addition to Brewers - Brock himself had vertigo that sidelined him for 2 months or so a few seasons ago
Mookie will like LA - David will pitch more like he did in TB/Det than w/Sox

Pitchers must now face 3 batters minimum - step in the right direction but the game is over regulated beyond belief - it’s a rule that shouldn’t had to have neen made

[Edited on 2/19/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 2/25/2020 at 11:15 PM
Larry Walker, a deserving HOFer - .313, 383 HR, 1,311 RBI
How about this
one of four players with a career BA of at least .300, 300 HR and 200 SB. The other 3 are Hank Aaron, Willie Mays and George Brett
Follows Ferguson Jenkins as just the 2nd Canadian to make HOF

[Edited on 2/26/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 2/26/2020 at 05:44 PM
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Larry Walker, a deserving HOFer - .313, 383 HR, 1,311 RBI
How about this
one of four players with a career BA of at least .300, 300 HR and 200 SB. The other 3 are Hank Aaron, Willie Mays and George Brett
Follows Ferguson Jenkins as just the 2nd Canadian to make HOF

[Edited on 2/26/2020 by Stephen]


The HOF voting is VERY subjective. And I have to respectfully disagree. He was certainly a very good player but I think playing in Denver helped his stats. There are several guys I think are more deserving buy hey, I don't have a vote.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2020 at 06:29 PM
You guys hear about the ridiculous playoff proposition MLB reportedly is kicking around? 14 teams and teams with byes "picking" their next opponents? I kind of liked it when the best teams just, you know, played each other. The October Classic already goes into November, seems like the NFL isn't the only league looking to maximize profits.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2020 at 06:45 PM
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You guys hear about the ridiculous playoff proposition MLB reportedly is kicking around? 14 teams and teams with byes "picking" their next opponents? I kind of liked it when the best teams just, you know, played each other. The October Classic already goes into November, seems like the NFL isn't the only league looking to maximize profits.


It is crazy. Picking opponents? Manfred is really bad. I am way too young to remember when it was just one team from each league going to The World Series. I think ading the league championship series was enough. Four teams. Why make it like the NHL or NBA?

 

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  posted on 2/26/2020 at 11:22 PM
Among the various high-water marks of HOFers, few matched Walker’s in 1997 - .366 BA, 49 HR, 130 RBI, And 33 SB - he had 2-3 other comparable seasons as well, altho not with as many SBs - was right imho that they didn’t use where he played as a criteria - or maybe they considered it but it wasn’t enough of a factor - it’s all good

Hadn’t heard about the new playoff arrangement they’re considering - sounds wacky alright

 

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  posted on 2/27/2020 at 09:46 AM
It seems bush league to me that seven Hou players have been HBPs over the last 5 games

But as a stathead, looked up some info re Walker vs others’ benchmark seasons of his era

Barry Bonds
.301, 33 HR, 114 RBI, 52 SB in 1990
.328, 73 HR, 137 RBI in 2001
.362, 45 HR, 101 RBI in 2004

David Ortiz
.332, 35 HR, 117 RBI in 2007
.315, 38 HR, 127 RBI in final season of 2016

Alex Rodriguez
.310, 42 HR, 111 RBI, 46 SB in 1998
.358, 36 HR, 123 RBI in 1996
.314, 54 HR, 156 RBI in 2007

Of course these #s could be tossed around/interpreted every which-way - but was surprised to see how prolific Larry Walker was

W/ a new roster at Comiskey & new manager David Ross at Wrigley, could be a good summer in Windy City - Ross was real big for us in 2013
be prepared for disappointment tho, BoSox will surprise people w/how well they do this season

[Edited on 2/27/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 3/2/2020 at 10:47 AM
Made it to Mets-Marlins game yesterday in Jupiter FL. Jeter and Mattingly in the house. Beautiful day for my first baseball of the season.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2020 at 02:27 PM
Getting stoked for the season. Less than two weeks to go! Always a cold start here in the Midwest. They should play the first couple of weeks in Mexico or something. Hopefully Wrigley isn't too bad!

 

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  posted on 3/11/2020 at 03:07 PM
The Mariners are moving March games outside of Seattle due to corona virus. Obviously public health comes before baseball, but if more teams are forced to do this, the season is going to get really complicated. The NBA has already been discussing closed arenas, broadcast only.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28884576/mariners-play-games-seattle-ma rch


UPDATE: NCAA Tourneys will play to empty arenas. Taking the college crowd out of the most exciting sporting event of the year is a bummer (and a huge economic loss). But considering the massive amount of domestic travel the tourney involves, this actually makes a lot of sense.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says- tournament-go-fans

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  posted on 3/23/2020 at 05:23 PM
So I just bet my buddy. He said the season won't start until August first. I took the under on that. I asked him what he thought the point would even be by then to have a season.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2020 at 08:23 AM
If MLB can't get back by July, which means things would have to be clear in June, there's no way the season happens at all. Hopefully, for all other kinds of reasons obviously, it plays out that way.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2020 at 06:11 PM
They were able to play seasons in 1981 & 1995. For very different reasons obviously but they did it. Let's hope!

 

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  posted on 3/24/2020 at 07:15 PM
I am going to Opening Day somewhere.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2020 at 07:45 PM
May not be til 2021 tho - maybe this year, who knows
Maybe they could begin the season later this summer playing at empty stadiums to make sure - at the same time installing hand washing stations & face mask dispensaries -
then start allowing fans, adhering initially to 6 feet apart social distancing, so it’d be about 16,000 or so at Fenway

....then, hopefully the full return to normalcy for 2021
What’s the new normal anyway :wtf:

 

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  posted on 3/26/2020 at 05:50 AM
Did anyone read Scott Boras' thoughts on chances of playing the season? I can't really stand the guy but I have to give him credit for thinking outside the box. A World Series game on Christmas Day? Hmm...

https://sports.yahoo.com/scott-boras-pitches-his-idea-for-162-game-mlb-seas on-in-2020-including-a-game-on-christmas-143719820.html

 

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  posted on 3/27/2020 at 08:25 PM
Wow, Even ESPN has resorted to showing movies.

 

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  posted on 3/28/2020 at 12:05 PM
“On This Day”
in 1939, Fred Goldsmith dies bitterly, clutching an 1870 newspaper clipping of his demonstration of the curveball. He claimed to be the pitch’s inventor, but the accepted opinion was that it was Candy Cummings

 

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  posted on 3/29/2020 at 05:25 PM
RIP, Jim “The Toy Cannon” Wynn
One of the great nicknames - like the late great Kirby Puckett who came later, diminutive stature but not power

Generally accepted that the longest HR ever hit at the cavernous Astrodome, was by Jimmy Wynn (he was Jim on my b-ball card)

April 12, 1970 - a Phil Niekro knuckler doesn’t knuckle, & “Wynn sent the pitch more than 500 feet down the left field line, the first player to hit one into the upper deck of the Astrodome”

 

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  posted on 4/3/2020 at 06:33 PM
Just read an article about a Red Sox / Astros cheating lawsuit being dismissed. I found the reasoning odd:

https://sports.yahoo.com/judge-dismisses-one-signstealing-lawsuit-against-a stros-and-red-sox-154036289.html

 

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