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  posted on 9/22/2019 at 08:02 AM
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It'd have be something so egregious and open and shut regardless of political party...yeah, no.


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The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that, in a July phone call, Trump repeatedly asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to work with Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani on a probe into Hunter Biden. The call came a month before Trump put a hold on $250 million in military aid to Ukraine -- a hold that was eventually released after objections from the Senate.





I'm a bit baffled by the apparent fear the Trumpster has of Joe Biden. It seems to me the entire appeal of Trump in 2016 was that he wasn't a career insider politician from Washington. That is to say the exact opposite of Joe Biden.

So how hard is it for Trump to capitalize on that theme now and moving forward given Biden proves daily what a long time Washington insider he really is? Instead Trump appears to be engaging in, ironically, the very type of dirt digging politicians always seem to utilize against their potential political rivals.

But then again, Trump certainly has engaged in such "hit job" tactics before....For instance in the case of Obama's birth certificate and the Central Park Five murder several years back...

 

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  posted on 9/22/2019 at 12:44 PM
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It'd have be something so egregious and open and shut regardless of political party...yeah, no.


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The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that, in a July phone call, Trump repeatedly asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to work with Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani on a probe into Hunter Biden. The call came a month before Trump put a hold on $250 million in military aid to Ukraine -- a hold that was eventually released after objections from the Senate.





This isnít nearly egregious enough. Need more cut and dried. This one has details too complicated for the uncaring public and campaign shenanigans with foreign governments is accepted process now.

 

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  posted on 9/23/2019 at 10:06 PM


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  posted on 9/23/2019 at 10:42 PM
The election is only 14 mos away, I say let the people impeach Trump at the voting polls next Nov, if the majority feels that way
it would take the politicians longer than that just to organize impeachment efforts - the campaign mudslinging will include most of that

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 10:19 AM
Why bother with impeachment if the Senate wonít convict?

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 10:47 AM
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Why bother with impeachment if the Senate wonít convict?


I find it absolutely hilarious that the Democrats main focus is on impeachment and not concentrating on one Candidate who can win in November 2020.

Maybe Beto can knock on every door in his home sate and attempt to take guns away from Law abiding citizens.

Or Andrew Yang can get started writing checks for $1,000.

Joe Biden could could start reminding himself to go to his Memory Class.

So much work ahead and so little time.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 12:43 PM
Soliciting interference from foreign governments in our elections is a good thing and representative of what our founding fathers belived in. They would back Trump to the end just like those in Congress and on this site who see no problem in this and divert. There are far bigger problems than Putin's previous actions and Trump's threatening to withold foreign aid until dirt is dug up on a political opponent. All in a day's work in the new accepted norm of corruption.

[Edited on 9/24/2019 by MartinD28]

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 01:32 PM
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I find it absolutely hilarious that the Democrats main focus is on impeachment and not concentrating on one Candidate who can win in November 2020.

Maybe Beto can knock on every door in his home sate and attempt to take guns away from Law abiding citizens.

Or Andrew Yang can get started writing checks for $1,000.

Joe Biden could could start reminding himself to go to his Memory Class.


Maybe you will one day find something new to post about instead of bigotry towards a entire party because they have different opinions than you do.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 01:35 PM
Then if itís that bad, the people will speak next November at the voting booths

Still donít see the sense in having impeachment proceedings during the presidential election - he might be voted out anyway rendering the whole thing moot
I say forget impeachment for now, pending outcome of election - then, if he Is re-elected, it will prove what BigV said, that they shouldíve focused on a viable candidate instead of impeachment, & that the majority was never behind the effort

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 02:12 PM
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I find it absolutely hilarious that the Democrats main focus is on impeachment and not concentrating on one Candidate who can win in November 2020.

Maybe Beto can knock on every door in his home sate and attempt to take guns away from Law abiding citizens.

Or Andrew Yang can get started writing checks for $1,000.

Joe Biden could could start reminding himself to go to his Memory Class.


Maybe you will one day find something new to post about instead of bigotry towards a entire party because they have different opinions than you do.


What's good for the Goose....

Maybe someday you in turn will not be bothered by the things I post that are directed towards the leadership of Political Party and not at individuals on this board.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 03:52 PM
If he's impeached and then no conviction, God help us all.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 03:58 PM
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Soliciting interference from foreign governments in our elections is a good thing and representative of what our founding fathers belived in. They would back Trump to the end just like those in Congress and on this site who see no problem in this and divert. There are far bigger problems than Putin's previous actions and Trump's threatening to withold foreign aid until dirt is dug up on a political opponent. All in a day's work in the new accepted norm of corruption.


This. Trump could go over to Walter Reed right now and take a dump on a vet in a hospital bed and wipe with the flag and the Right wouldn't care.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 04:08 PM


We see Donny just got the ball pulled out from under him...Miss Nancy will doing the kicking

BIGV...let me give you some perspective on how they would remove your weapon. First there would be a buy back program and if you don't sell your weapon back they will simply issue an arrest warrant for you. They won't storm your house. They'll wait for you to run a red light, speed or have some other incident where the police will come in contact with you. They will see there's an arrest warrant for you and then they will arrest you. So while you're sitting in jail they will go to your house and remove the weapon. I guess you didn't think that through, did ya...like most other stuff you comment about...



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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 04:34 PM
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Maybe someday you in turn will not be bothered by the things I post that are directed towards the leadership of Political Party and not at individuals on this board.


You direct your comments towards liberals time and time again, which includes individuals on this board. How does that make you better than Hillaryís deplorable comment? That type of ignorance does indeed bother me, especially on this particular website. If itís the leaders that are your target, then you should say so. Words matter.



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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 04:39 PM
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If he's impeached and then no conviction, God help us all.


You mean, ďwhenĒ heís impeached and then no conviction.....and yes, god help us all for sure. If we think itís bad now, wait until heís acquitted. Iíve always believed he will serve 8 years. We should let it happen. The Republican Party will be a joke to everyone, practically making themselves extinct. After heís gone, the U.S. will be Democrat for the next several decades, if not more.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 04:40 PM
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I find it absolutely hilarious that the Democrats main focus is on impeachment and not concentrating on one Candidate who can win in November 2020.

Maybe Beto can knock on every door in his home sate and attempt to take guns away from Law abiding citizens.

Or Andrew Yang can get started writing checks for $1,000.

Joe Biden could could start reminding himself to go to his Memory Class.

So much work ahead and so little time.


Angry white male, much?

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 05:08 PM
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If he's impeached and then no conviction, God help us all.


You mean, ďwhenĒ heís impeached and then no conviction.....and yes, god help us all for sure. If we think itís bad now, wait until heís acquitted. Iíve always believed he will serve 8 years. We should let it happen. The Republican Party will be a joke to everyone, practically making themselves extinct. After heís gone, the U.S. will be Democrat for the next several decades, if not more.


I agree that the House will impeach and there will be no conviction. So, why bother? Well, Trump has obviously been doing what he wants not caring about any laws he happens to break in the process, and the Democrats haven't had the balls to do anything about it. So, we all know that the Senate is not going to remove him, so the Democrats better have a good case for impeachment that will win over independents in a handful of states. If there is overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing and a senator in a purple state lets him get away with it, then it may flip the Senate. On the other hand, if the case for wrongdoing is weak, then the opposite may happen. Keep in mind, almost 40% of the country will love Trump no matter what and will find any excuse to support him regardless of what he does. Most Democrats will think it is about time that Trump gets called out for his criminal ways. The only opinions that matter are the swing voters in purple states. We already know the impeachment is not going to result in Trump's removal from office...at least not directly. But this whole process is a high stakes game of poker with the prize being the outcome of the next election. It seems of late the Republicans play the game of politics better than the Democrats, and I think Pelosi know this. If she is finally ready to move forward with an impeachment inquiry, then she must think there is a very damning case against Trump that will play well with the American swing voters.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 05:26 PM
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If he's impeached and then no conviction, God help us all.


You mean, ďwhenĒ heís impeached and then no conviction.....and yes, god help us all for sure. If we think itís bad now, wait until heís acquitted. Iíve always believed he will serve 8 years. We should let it happen. The Republican Party will be a joke to everyone, practically making themselves extinct. After heís gone, the U.S. will be Democrat for the next several decades, if not more.


I agree that the House will impeach and there will be no conviction. So, why bother? Well, Trump has obviously been doing what he wants not caring about any laws he happens to break in the process, and the Democrats haven't had the balls to do anything about it. So, we all know that the Senate is not going to remove him, so the Democrats better have a good case for impeachment that will win over independents in a handful of states. If there is overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing and a senator in a purple state lets him get away with it, then it may flip the Senate. On the other hand, if the case for wrongdoing is weak, then the opposite may happen. Keep in mind, almost 40% of the country will love Trump no matter what and will find any excuse to support him regardless of what he does. Most Democrats will think it is about time that Trump gets called out for his criminal ways. The only opinions that matter are the swing voters in purple states. We already know the impeachment is not going to result in Trump's removal from office...at least not directly. But this whole process is a high stakes game of poker with the prize being the outcome of the next election. It seems of late the Republicans play the game of politics better than the Democrats, and I think Pelosi know this. If she is finally ready to move forward with an impeachment inquiry, then she must think there is a very damning case against Trump that will play well with the American swing voters.


I'd be shocked if Trump is convicted...facts be damned. Keep in mind that the GOP will lay down in the road for Trump. For example - former "Never Trumper" Lindsey Graham now turned to lead Trump lead ball licker are along for the Trump ride regardless of what he does or says. Nothing imaginable is not acceptable in the new world of the GOP. Corruption and emoluments violations are alive and well.

On the other hand, Congress has a job to do, and regardless of outcome owes it to the American people to do their job.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 06:04 PM
This is gonna be fun to watch. I wonder if Trump was even the target of the 'whistleblower'

Demi probably want Biden gone for good.

As far as the transcript, why release now?

First domino to fall will be Biden then the FISA abuse indictments come out.

October surprise this year!

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 07:05 PM
Guys, I had to pull the reins back on your Russia zeal, looks like you are all hoping that this will replace all that emotional energy when it all amounted to fake news, false reporting, complicit democrats, and a willing media.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 09:31 PM
From whatís out there so far, this isnít enough. Itís too complicated and obtuse. The Kyiv Times in Ukraine has some great writing on the whole thing from that part of the world. Lots of details and foreign names. Waaaay too many parts to hold the American attention span.

Donald Trump is still a horrible human being, though.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 09:39 PM
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I find it absolutely hilarious that the Democrats main focus is on impeachment and not concentrating on one Candidate who can win in November 2020.

Maybe Beto can knock on every door in his home sate and attempt to take guns away from Law abiding citizens.

Or Andrew Yang can get started writing checks for $1,000.

Joe Biden could could start reminding himself to go to his Memory Class.

So much work ahead and so little time.


Angry white male, much?


Anger? Typical. Disagree and here comes the label.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 09:46 PM
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BIGV...let me give you some perspective on how they would remove your weapon. First there would be a buy back program and if you don't sell your weapon back they will simply issue an arrest warrant for you.


Since you brought up the phrase "Not thinking it through"...lol..ALL of your mentioned "cures" apply to registered weapons, probably referring to "Legal" purchases

How does this affect the criminal element? You know!...The peeps who don't follow the LAW? As in Criminals. So with this "Genius plan" ...lol... How do we get the weapons out of the hands of the bad guys?

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  posted on 9/24/2019 at 09:59 PM
Although, Trumpís attorney isnít helping...

Rudy Giuliani, a half hour ago: "I never talked to a Ukrainian official until the State Department called me and asked me to do it"

Good grief.

 

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