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  posted on 2/13/2020 at 08:50 PM
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A media outlet gets caught lying outright or is lying by omission, my ability to trust their credibility is gone. First off, what is the motive for not being truthful? It has to more than just making money. There are part-truths in any agenda, some are cool accepting that, I am not. Making a decision based on any kind of deceptive practice is foolish. If you need to make your choices based on the opinions of people on TV, I feel sorry for you.


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But all you really have to do is look at what *tRump is doing and decide if you can handle that or not...all of other crap is static. Just watch what he does...me I'm not good with any of it and there isn't anything on any of those stations that could change my mind I'm just watching *tRump phuck our entire country up while the senate stands by and does nothing but "Hope he learned a lesson" People... we are the laughing stock of the world when we use to lead...If you can't see that I have no help for you. If this is what you wanted I feel sorry for you




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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 07:40 AM
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A media outlet gets caught lying outright or is lying by omission, my ability to trust their credibility is gone. First off, what is the motive for not being truthful? It has to more than just making money. There are part-truths in any agenda, some are cool accepting that, I am not. Making a decision based on any kind of deceptive practice is foolish. If you need to make your choices based on the opinions of people on TV, I feel sorry for you.


which outlets do you use to stay informed?

 

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A media outlet gets caught lying outright or is lying by omission, my ability to trust their credibility is gone. First off, what is the motive for not being truthful? It has to more than just making money. There are part-truths in any agenda, some are cool accepting that, I am not. Making a decision based on any kind of deceptive practice is foolish. If you need to make your choices based on the opinions of people on TV, I feel sorry for you.


which outlets do you use to stay informed?


I have a cousin that claims all the same things and told me to watch BBC so I did...they were saying the exact same things as the cable news stations, as does the local stations when they start talking about *tRump...same things discussed different people. The fact that people think everyone is lying to them tells me they believe only the absurd thoughts they conjure up in their own heads. To say that they all lie is a self lie. It saying those people have no self respect and no dignity and I'm the only one who tells the truth...a self lie

 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 09:08 AM
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. The fact that people think everyone is lying to them tells me they believe only the absurd thoughts they conjure up in their own heads. To say that they all lie is a self lie. It saying those people have no self respect and no dignity and I'm the only one who tells the truth...a self lie


So now you are giving psychoanalysis. Coming from a person who cares about the world laughing, but excuses/accepts being lied to is comedy gold.

 

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which outlets do you use to stay informed?


Already answered that in part of another reply to you a few posts back.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 09:16 AM
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. The fact that people think everyone is lying to them tells me they believe only the absurd thoughts they conjure up in their own heads. To say that they all lie is a self lie. It saying those people have no self respect and no dignity and I'm the only one who tells the truth...a self lie


So now you are giving psychoanalysis. Coming from a person who cares about the world laughing, but excuses/accepts being lied to is comedy gold.


Please read this.

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But all you really have to do is look at what *tRump is doing and decide if you can handle that or not...all of other crap is static. Just watch what he does...me I'm not good with any of it and there isn't anything on any of those stations that could change my mind I'm just watching *tRump phuck our entire country up while the senate stands by and does nothing but "Hope he learned a lesson" People... we are the laughing stock of the world when we use to lead...If you can't see that I have no help for you. If this is what you wanted I feel sorry for you


And no I don't think the entire world is lying and if would actually pay attention you'd know we're being laughed at. I have family and friends that live in other countries and they tell me we are being laughed at. But I guess they're lying too and of course only you hold all the truths...absurd


 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 09:53 AM
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The internet is the worse place to get info from it you are lazy. It is the best place to look if you have the patience to see past the bias, the agenda, and the propaganda.


the internet is not an outlet, it's a medium. which outlets do you trust to keep you informed of true, non-biased, factual reporting?

a reminder - nobody is trying to debate liberal versus conservative values. nobody is debating whether your personal behavior is ok or not ok. nobody is questioning your own values. we are only debating what is acceptable for the office of the President of the United States. you seem to be going down a rabbit hole about truth.



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And no I don't think the entire world is lying and if would actually pay attention you'd know we're being laughed at. I have family and friends that live in other countries and they tell me we are being laughed at. But I guess they're lying too and of course only you hold all the truths...absurd




I don't think the entire world is lying.Yet, once a liar, always a liar applies for the most part.

I don't care we are being laughed at. They laughed before, they'll laugh again.Millions want to come here, so in the grand scheme of things, why does it matter?

People in this country laugh at what the party Trump doesn't belong to is doing, does that bother you too?I

As far as you saying only I hold all the truths? Condescending should be a taxable attribute in California. That might give it some worth? Right now it's as valuable as the carp on the sidewalks. That is laughable too, but humans are less tangible than the antics of a person in office from the opposing party.

I actually don't want to know the real truth about most things. People blowing gaskets over stuff they have no control over is insanity. Fun to watch, until you run out of popcorn.




 

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the internet is not an outlet, it's a medium. which outlets do you trust to keep you informed of true, non-biased, factual reporting?



Outlets are a form of medium too. You just click a remote instead of a mouse or touch a screen. Look for a more personal connotation/connection when researching something of interest. For example the Raiders went 7-9 last season. If you have the patience and skillset, you can find the college transcripts of every player they had since1960. I can't explain it any simpler. You have to do the work, it doesn't just fall out of the sky.

 

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And of course saying every person in MSM is lying all the time isn't condescending.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 10:15 AM
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And of course saying every person in MSM is lying all the time isn't condescending.



You are pretty dense, I never said they lie all the time. Just don't care to sit watch/listen/wait for the next time they do

 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 10:23 AM
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I actually don't want to know the real truth about most things.


i felt this way too once, when the truths about my life and the world were too much for me to handle. it was easier for me to stay high all day and night and blame anything getting in my way.

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Yet, once a liar, always a liar applies for the most part.


we've all lied. it's human nature. surely you don't mean this, otherwise you think everyone you know will always be a liar and cannot be trusted. i respect your opinion about lying, but your way of responding to it isn't going to solve anything.

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I don't care we are being laughed at. They laughed before, they'll laugh again.Millions want to come here, so in the grand scheme of things, why does it matter?


for centuries now, all the world's biggest nations have competed to recruit the brightest minds. this is critical in remaining the strongest superpower, and critical for maitaining national security. if the world's brightest minds are turned off by the cruelty and crude behavior of our President, then they will go to our competitors, like China and Russia. you know it matters.


 

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And of course saying every person in MSM is lying all the time isn't condescending.



You are pretty dense, I never said they lie all the time. Just don't care to sit watch/listen/wait for the next time they do


Are we talking about being condescending again.??

 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 10:28 AM
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outlets are a form of medium too. You just click a remote instead of a mouse or touch a screen.


mediums are the delivery method: TV, radio, newspaper/magazines (print), and internet. the outlets are the individual companies operating within the mediums.

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Look for a more personal connotation/connection when researching something of interest. For example the Raiders went 7-9 last season. If you have the patience and skillset, you can find the college transcripts of every player they had since1960. I can't explain it any simpler. You have to do the work, it doesn't just fall out of the sky.


what do the college transcripts of former Raiders players have to do with their 7-9 record in 2019? are you ok bro? you seem troubled.

 

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outlets are a form of medium too. You just click a remote instead of a mouse or touch a screen.


mediums are the delivery method: TV, radio, newspaper/magazines (print), and internet. the outlets are the individual companies operating within the mediums.

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Look for a more personal connotation/connection when researching something of interest. For example the Raiders went 7-9 last season. If you have the patience and skillset, you can find the college transcripts of every player they had since1960. I can't explain it any simpler. You have to do the work, it doesn't just fall out of the sky.


what do the college transcripts of former Raiders players have to do with their 7-9 record in 2019? are you ok bro? you seem troubled.


it actually doesn't take much time at all. MLB NFL NBA NHL all have this info on their sites. It's easy to find. Just go to google and type a players name in and it'll give you links to all that info. Or go directly to the major sport leagues sites and look up anyone and their entire career from college through pro will all the stats. Not brain surgery.

The entire MAGA crowd is disenfranchised and it seems none of them own a mirror so they can have a strong look at who their problem is

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 10:42 AM
Believe he was mentioning it in the context of usefulness of internet/info superhighway, in research - it’s hog heaven for us sports nuts

Impeachment is over, I say why not change thread to “Now we can vote him out - nine more months” updating it as November approaches

 

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Believe he was mentioning it in the context of usefulness of internet/info superhighway, in research - it’s hog heaven for us sports nuts

Impeachment is over, I say why not change thread to “Now we can vote him out - nine more months” updating it as November approaches


After yesterday's tweet storm he might be impeached for a second time...or are you not aware he told NY that he'll stop the ban when they stop investigating him...that's called a quid pro quo...or bribe if you want to speak English

Hakeem Jeffries spoke about this happening during the impeachment trial. He said what will stop him from bribing states or cities, and then yesterday he did.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 11:30 AM
impeachment has had its day for now, that’s why I thought just for a change why not....then return it to its original name after the election, if he isn’t voted out, as a renewed round of impeachments are called for
Wasn’t aware of what you mentioned in NY, bribery by tweet, yikes

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. . .are you not aware he told NY that he'll stop the ban when they stop investigating him . . .


Thanks for the heads up - I was not aware of this. Link to a short article on it - thought it would be a good little case study for the "Fake News" debate. I have zero idea whether American Independent's editors are lib or con - I didn't have to carefully sift thru a landfill of liberal lies to find this article. It was the first search hit. Every word is a simple statement of current events.

Other than op-eds, I really don't see what the "Fake News" thing is. I am liberal and I listen to FOX radio every day - because it is the only news on the radio. It is just plain old news. I don't read or listen to opinion pieces, never have.

I think that the term "Fake News" is a way to deny things that are occurring in plain sight.

Read it yourself, tell me where the left or right spin is in this short article. Is it automatically "Fake News" because it is daring to report on Trump, is that it?

https://americanindependent.com/donald-trump-administration-new-york-truste d-traveler-sanctuary-cities-dhs-homeland-security/

 

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. . .are you not aware he told NY that he'll stop the ban when they stop investigating him . . .


Thanks for the heads up - I was not aware of this. Link to a short article on it - thought it would be a good little case study for the "Fake News" debate. I have zero idea whether American Independent's editors are lib or con - I didn't have to carefully sift thru a landfill of liberal lies to find this article. It was the first search hit. Every word is a simple statement of current events.

Other than op-eds, I really don't see what the "Fake News" thing is. I am liberal and I listen to FOX radio every day - because it is the only news on the radio. It is just plain old news. I don't read or listen to opinion pieces, never have.

I think that the term "Fake News" is a way to deny things that are occurring in plain sight.

Read it yourself, tell me where the left or right spin is in this short article. Is it automatically "Fake News" because it is daring to report on Trump, is that it?

https://americanindependent.com/donald-trump-administration-new-york-truste d-traveler-sanctuary-cities-dhs-homeland-security/


The local news station I watch is a FOX affiliate. I've watched BBC, CNN and MSNBC and when the conversation turns to *tRump they all say the same things including the local FOX affiliate...so are they all lying or just putting out the information they have? now FOX News simply ignores those stories and concentrates on HC emails or some other absurd conspiracy crap...except for Chris Wallace, Niel Cavuto and Judge Napolitano. and before he left Shepard Smith...so there are those on FOX who will deal with real facts while the Pundits create stories, Carlson, Ingaham, Hannity and the other Judge...

Again its not only absurd to say they all lie it's also arrogant stupidity and a stance that says I hold all the truths and only I...Much like *tRump ...the MAGA's are just find with a dictator

 

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  posted on 2/14/2020 at 12:59 PM
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. . .they all say the same things including the local FOX affiliate . . .


Exactly right. The closest I have seen to "Fake News" are the FOX blackouts on Trump f*ckups. Literally EVERY paper on the planet will be covering something and twenty pages of search wont turn up one FOX article. It is blatant muzzling. But when FOX does allow coverage it is generally the exact same as everyone else, just reporting everyday same old sh!t that happened.


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mediums are the delivery method: TV, radio, newspaper/magazines (print), and internet. the outlets are the individual companies operating within the mediums. .


I already understand thanks. There are different ways to look at it.
Router (device) ISP (medium) internet (outlet/source of information)
Depends on the context of how "outlet" is defined and used.

 

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I can explain my outlet as medium comment as well (if anyone really cares)

YouTube = outlet

Hypothetical, old tart in a rural area is too far away from metro area with digital broadcast TV and no cellphone. He has Roku and no way to actually browse the internet. He has a YouTube app and used it to search different channels for info. So technically in this scenario, YouTube (an outlet) becomes a medium (delivery method) and the channels within are the outlets.

Actually, I talked myself into a corner by not paying attention to what I said. Did I succeed in escape? Probably not, but in the end who gives a crap.

 

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what do the college transcripts of former Raiders players have to do with their 7-9 record in 2019?


You asked me how I get my info. It was an example "Raiders 7-9" as subject, and the " college transcripts of former players" is what you can glean it you want to be diligent and dig deep when researching on the internet

 

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Are we talking about being condescending again.??




Actually, I was being "judgemental. So my bad!

 

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