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  posted on 12/22/2019 at 12:40 PM
Yeah, ok, I have my share of grudges too I guess. I consider Jerry one of the few friends I have made here, even though I don't think we should be mounting machine guns on baby carriages.

For sure, the Muleklan comparison was too much. Also gotta agree liberals need to start being @ssholes - it was the moral high road and politeness that cost Hillary the election - nobody knew that flat out fascist hostility would be embraced by half the voting population. She should have just ripped him a new @sshole from the gitgo.

Gonna disengage from the Civil War, Indian Wars, and Vietnam, and general exploitation of workers - there be dragons.



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I was wondering when the liberal version of Muleman would show up. I may not agree with Jerry on some things, but he is civil and doesn't come around and belittle people.


True I have turned crass and crude, but like someone else said, we canít give peace a chance our way out of this muck, time to fight ignorance and vitriol with more stubborn bullheadedness and vitriol, maybe a poor disposition to have but meh civility has gotten us nowhere.
But seriously, screw Jerry and especially BIG P


I hardly see lukester as a liberal equal of muleturd.

Not even close.

I don't find him the least bit condescending, for one, and that was a muleturd specialty.




I get the comparison,
Iím not as bad as that jerkoff was but I am capable of being a stubborn and rude at the very least.

 

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I was wondering when the liberal version of Muleman would show up. I may not agree with Jerry on some things, but he is civil and doesn't come around and belittle people.


True I have turned crass and crude, but like someone else said, we canít give peace a chance our way out of this muck, time to fight ignorance and vitriol with more stubborn bullheadedness and vitriol, maybe a poor disposition to have but meh civility has gotten us nowhere.
But seriously, screw Jerry and especially BIG P


I hardly see lukester as a liberal equal of muleturd.

Not even close.

I don't find him the least bit condescending, for one, and that was a muleturd specialty.




I get the comparison,
Iím not as bad as that jerkoff was but I am capable of being a stubborn and rude at the very least.


Seems being politically incorrect is reserved for Rep only because I've found when you use it against them they get their britches all in a bunch.

They want to be rude and use all sorts of decisive language that is simply rude but to them it's being blunt not rude until it's applied to them.



[Edited on 12/22/2019 by goldtop]

 

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Seems being politically incorrect is reserved for Rep only because I've found when you use it against them they get their britches all in a bunch.

They want to be rude and use all sorts of decisive language that is simply rude but to them it's being blunt not rude until it's applied to them.


True. They dish it out but can't take it. They freak at the smallest criticism. Like really freak, actually lose it. One thing is real strange is how they can't say one bad thing about their leader, it is like a cult.

 

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I was wondering when the liberal version of Muleman would show up. I may not agree with Jerry on some things, but he is civil and doesn't come around and belittle people.


True I have turned crass and crude, but like someone else said, we canít give peace a chance our way out of this muck, time to fight ignorance and vitriol with more stubborn bullheadedness and vitriol, maybe a poor disposition to have but meh civility has gotten us nowhere.
But seriously, screw Jerry and especially BIG P


I hardly see lukester as a liberal equal of muleturd.

Not even close.

I don't find him the least bit condescending, for one, and that was a muleturd specialty.




I get the comparison,
Iím not as bad as that jerkoff was but I am capable of being a stubborn and rude at the very least.


Seems being politically incorrect is reserved for Rep only because I've found when you use it against them they get their britches all in a bunch.

They want to be rude and use all sorts of decisive language that is simply rude but to them it's being blunt not rude until it's applied to them.



[Edited on 12/22/2019 by goldtop]


And infringing on their rights lol

 

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**Most partisan impeachment of the three led by house democrats

[Edited on 12/19/2019 by OriginalGoober]



"Since we cannot defend the president's actions and we don't have the numbers to stop the impeachment resolutions, we can all stick together and knock it for not being bi-partisan."

Great obfuscation strategy... really helps the public be able to be an informed electorate.


Link to the quote please.


It is not an actual quote, Jerry. It is my summation of what the GOP is doing right now. Paraphrasing and summary must be hard for some on your side to follow... like when Schiff was accused of adding words to the phone call during the inquiry.


Also, I assume the "unjust cause" mentioned in the other post refers to treason and armed rebellion against the United States in order to preserve the practice of buying, selling, and raping human beings in order to profit off of the forced labor of them and their offspring. This too seems like it shouldn't need an explainer.


Sorry for the delay, but I tend not to post under painkillers.

1) Since you had your summation in quotation marks, I thought it was a quotation from another source. I was taught that in grade school English.

2) I was wondering if he was posting about that, except that slavery was still a money making venture even after the War of 1861-65 in some Union states.
I keep hearing and people keep posting about how that war was to end slavery. It wasn't. If it was, wouldn't you think that the slaves held in Union states and Washington, DC should have been freed before the war started?

 

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But seriously, screw Jerry and especially BIG P


Even if you think I'm cute as a button, no.

Who's big P?

 

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ďI never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much... Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes & everything.Ē



Remember they "Like the way he talks"

Another right wing publication calls for his removal

BREAKING NEWS: The National Review, the conservative publication founded by William F. Buckley, Jr., has called for Trump to be removed from office!!

Here's their comments

The National Review, a conservative publication, is calling for Trumpís removal.

ďThe Constitution provides for impeachment & removal to protect us from officials, including presidents, who are unable or unwilling to distinguish between the common good.Ē


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**Most partisan impeachment of the three led by house democrats

[Edited on 12/19/2019 by OriginalGoober]



"Since we cannot defend the president's actions and we don't have the numbers to stop the impeachment resolutions, we can all stick together and knock it for not being bi-partisan."

Great obfuscation strategy... really helps the public be able to be an informed electorate.


Link to the quote please.


It is not an actual quote, Jerry. It is my summation of what the GOP is doing right now. Paraphrasing and summary must be hard for some on your side to follow... like when Schiff was accused of adding words to the phone call during the inquiry.


Also, I assume the "unjust cause" mentioned in the other post refers to treason and armed rebellion against the United States in order to preserve the practice of buying, selling, and raping human beings in order to profit off of the forced labor of them and their offspring. This too seems like it shouldn't need an explainer.


Sorry for the delay, but I tend not to post under painkillers.

1) Since you had your summation in quotation marks, I thought it was a quotation from another source. I was taught that in grade school English.

2) I was wondering if he was posting about that, except that slavery was still a money making venture even after the War of 1861-65 in some Union states.
I keep hearing and people keep posting about how that war was to end slavery. It wasn't. If it was, wouldn't you think that the slaves held in Union states and Washington, DC should have been freed before the war started?


Why did the Confederacy secede? Donít give me that stateís rights crap because that is a narrative spun by confederate apologists (and white supremacists) to save face. Name some stateís right they cared about that was not tied in to preserving the slavery based economy.

And youíve got me confused with another, I do not find you cute as a button.
And seriously man, understand context, who could BIG P possibly be? Maybe the only person here with a name relatively close to that. I take it you were trying to be snarky and point out a typo, but alas your misunderstanding of the gist of the written word has yet another joke (albeit a stupid one) going over your head.

 

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  posted on 12/23/2019 at 01:37 PM
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Why did the Confederacy secede?


Slavery was the trigger issue, but the Civil War had been brewing since the Revolution. The Civil War was pretty much the USA testing the Union - filling in the blanks of the Constitution and figuring out the hard way that the idea of secession was officially and forever crushed. Sort of like a married couple that fights and destroys the house but stays together after. Anti-federalism was a huge factor in the original debates on the Constitution. - "Disunion" was the main political worry of the early US. Other states, even Northern states had argued for secession long before the Civil Wsr. The Southern Confederacy was the first attempt to actually secede. Talk of secession in the South had been going on since the early 1800s.

A lot of people killed, all Americans, so let''s not go feeling all bitter about one side or other, in the 21st century.

 

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  posted on 12/23/2019 at 04:43 PM
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**Most partisan impeachment of the three led by house democrats

[Edited on 12/19/2019 by OriginalGoober]



"Since we cannot defend the president's actions and we don't have the numbers to stop the impeachment resolutions, we can all stick together and knock it for not being bi-partisan."

Great obfuscation strategy... really helps the public be able to be an informed electorate.


Link to the quote please.


It is not an actual quote, Jerry. It is my summation of what the GOP is doing right now. Paraphrasing and summary must be hard for some on your side to follow... like when Schiff was accused of adding words to the phone call during the inquiry.


Also, I assume the "unjust cause" mentioned in the other post refers to treason and armed rebellion against the United States in order to preserve the practice of buying, selling, and raping human beings in order to profit off of the forced labor of them and their offspring. This too seems like it shouldn't need an explainer.


Sorry for the delay, but I tend not to post under painkillers.

1) Since you had your summation in quotation marks, I thought it was a quotation from another source. I was taught that in grade school English.

2) I was wondering if he was posting about that, except that slavery was still a money making venture even after the War of 1861-65 in some Union states.
I keep hearing and people keep posting about how that war was to end slavery. It wasn't. If it was, wouldn't you think that the slaves held in Union states and Washington, DC should have been freed before the war started?


Why did the Confederacy secede? Donít give me that stateís rights crap because that is a narrative spun by confederate apologists (and white supremacists) to save face. Name some stateís right they cared about that was not tied in to preserving the slavery based economy.
___________________________________________________________ 1)Tariffs imposed on goods imported in southern ports, but used to improve what we would now call infrastructure in the northern states.
2) Export restrictions. Even though tobacco and pine resin was produced in the south, it pretty much had to go through northern ports for export.
3) Slavery was a large reason for secession, it was not the reason the Union invaded the Confederacy.
4) Do a search and read the proposals from New York City for secession to join the Confederacy.
5) Do a search also for when slaves were freed from Kentucky, Maryland, West Virginia, New York state and city, Delaware, and Washington, DC. Notice that they weren't all freed, but some were sold to Cuba and South American countries. Note: Delaware didn't vote to ratify the 13th amendment until 1991
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And youíve got me confused with another, I do not find you cute as a button.
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Oh, that hurts me to the core, but the answer is still no.
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And seriously man, understand context, who could BIG P possibly be? Maybe the only person here with a name relatively close to that. I take it you were trying to be snarky and point out a typo, but alas your misunderstanding of the gist of the written word has yet another joke (albeit a stupid one) going over your head.


I understand context very well, but it's so much fun to watch you when I act like I don't. You get all worked up and post funny things, just like this--about nothing.

 

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  posted on 12/23/2019 at 06:30 PM
I didn't ask why the union invaded, I asked why the Confederacy seceded. Tariffs and export restrictions are tied into the slavery based economy so you gave me nothing. You did your typical deflection followed by "yeah but the evil Yankees waaah waaah waah"
 

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  posted on 12/24/2019 at 09:11 AM
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Why did the Confederacy secede?


Slavery was the trigger issue, but the Civil War had been brewing since the Revolution. The Civil War was pretty much the USA testing the Union - filling in the blanks of the Constitution and figuring out the hard way that the idea of secession was officially and forever crushed. Sort of like a married couple that fights and destroys the house but stays together after. Anti-federalism was a huge factor in the original debates on the Constitution. - "Disunion" was the main political worry of the early US. Other states, even Northern states had argued for secession long before the Civil Wsr. The Southern Confederacy was the first attempt to actually secede. Talk of secession in the South had been going on since the early 1800s.

A lot of people killed, all Americans, so let''s not go feeling all bitter about one side or other, in the 21st century.


Also, I assume the "unjust cause" mentioned in the other post refers to treason and armed rebellion against the United States in order to preserve the practice of buying, selling, and raping human beings in order to profit off of the forced labor of them and their offspring. This too seems like it shouldn't need an explainer.

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I was not trying to say that slavery is the only or even the worst problem in our past, just agreeing that it seems pretty lame to celebrate the men who died fighting to preserve it.

 

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Why did the Confederacy secede?


Slavery was the trigger issue, but the Civil War had been brewing since the Revolution. The Civil War was pretty much the USA testing the Union - filling in the blanks of the Constitution and figuring out the hard way that the idea of secession was officially and forever crushed. Sort of like a married couple that fights and destroys the house but stays together after. Anti-federalism was a huge factor in the original debates on the Constitution. - "Disunion" was the main political worry of the early US. Other states, even Northern states had argued for secession long before the Civil Wsr. The Southern Confederacy was the first attempt to actually secede. Talk of secession in the South had been going on since the early 1800s.

A lot of people killed, all Americans, so let''s not go feeling all bitter about one side or other, in the 21st century.


Also, I assume the "unjust cause" mentioned in the other post refers to treason and armed rebellion against the United States in order to preserve the practice of buying, selling, and raping human beings in order to profit off of the forced labor of them and their offspring. This too seems like it shouldn't need an explainer.

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I was not trying to say that slavery is the only or even the worst problem in our past, just agreeing that it seems pretty lame to celebrate the men who died fighting to preserve it.


If the War of 1861 to 1865 was to free slaves, why didn't the Union Army go in and free all the slaves held in Union States, including Washington, DC, before invading the Confederacy?
It's a simple question, no need to worry it to death.
Just why did the Union Army invade the Confederacy to free slaves when there were slaves in Union States?

 

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I didn't ask why the union invaded, I asked why the Confederacy seceded. Tariffs and export restrictions are tied into the slavery based economy so you gave me nothing. You did your typical deflection followed by "yeah but the evil Yankees waaah waaah waah"


You have it all wrong since OBVIOUSLY you didn't do the searches I asked you to on the subjects listed.
You instead chose to be ignorant about FACTS and decided to keep the bigoted, misguided, untrue, and downright misguided stuff you have been taught.
You would have learned so much about what really happened rather than the legends, lies, and deception passed on through the years.

I suggest you go to Google Books and download, and read, a series of books called:
"The War of The Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies. Prepared under The Direction Of The Secretary Of War, By Brvt Lieut Col Robert Scott, Third U.S, Artillery, And published Pursuant to Act Of Congress Approved June 16, 1880."
I know, it's a long title, and the link is even longer.
Just go to Google Books, search for "Official Records" and start downloading. It's only enough to fill 3 DVDs.
to help you along, don't download ones scanned by OCR. Every wrinkle, bug mark, or pencil mark messes up the page and can make it unreadable. Download the ones scanned as images.
They are also in searchable pdf form, so you won't have to read everything. It helps when searching each of the 150 volumes, some with parts I,II,III, and IV, all about 1000 pages each.

There's your challenge. Learn, or continue to be ignorant of facts.

 

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I didn't ask why the union invaded, I asked why the Confederacy seceded. Tariffs and export restrictions are tied into the slavery based economy so you gave me nothing. You did your typical deflection followed by "yeah but the evil Yankees waaah waaah waah"


You have it all wrong since OBVIOUSLY you didn't do the searches I asked you to on the subjects listed.
You instead chose to be ignorant about FACTS and decided to keep the bigoted, misguided, untrue, and downright misguided stuff you have been taught.
You would have learned so much about what really happened rather than the legends, lies, and deception passed on through the years.

I suggest you go to Google Books and download, and read, a series of books called:
"The War of The Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies. Prepared under The Direction Of The Secretary Of War, By Brvt Lieut Col Robert Scott, Third U.S, Artillery, And published Pursuant to Act Of Congress Approved June 16, 1880."
I know, it's a long title, and the link is even longer.
Just go to Google Books, search for "Official Records" and start downloading. It's only enough to fill 3 DVDs.
to help you along, don't download ones scanned by OCR. Every wrinkle, bug mark, or pencil mark messes up the page and can make it unreadable. Download the ones scanned as images.
They are also in searchable pdf form, so you won't have to read everything. It helps when searching each of the 150 volumes, some with parts I,II,III, and IV, all about 1000 pages each.

There's your challenge. Learn, or continue to be ignorant of facts.


Jerry, it does not fit their narrative.

Slavery was an abomination. Period. But here are Lincoln's thoughts about The Union as written to Horace Greely :

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I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2020 at 01:41 AM
Lol, man old Abe sure knew how to cover all the angles.
 

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There's your challenge. Learn, or continue to be ignorant of facts.




I prefer your method. Pick and choose what facts I want to remember.

You donít think anything your family passed down about their history could be legend or revised to fit the narrative that they were just protecting themselves from the evil Yankees?

Yeah, families NEVER change stories to cover up things they donít want to be remembered.

And ps. I did search a couple of the things you mentioned despite already being aware of them, I still humored you, I am well aware that there were no angels in the Civil War but none of this changes nor will you acknowledge the fact that the south seceded because they had no fail safe to preserve their economy and infrastructure should slavery be outlawed.

Thereís not really any good guys, just lesser of two evils. My initial point was that Iím just tired of these groups of lazy entitled white trash like Quantrillís Raiders showing up in towns they are not welcome in trying to stir sh** up and preserve a heritage of treason.

Rather than address any of the stuff about these morons who run over innocent people or try to intimidate African American store owners in the 21st century, you give a lecture about why the Union was just as bad....160 years ago. Interesting that any time someone mentions violent crimes perpetrated to by Neo-Confederate tools people immediately go on the defensive and cite Union atrocities as if it excuses White Supremacy in todayís society.

 

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As a brief reminder *Donald J Trump has been impeached as of 12/19/2019




 

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Hereís a fact: An American man slandered the United States law enforcement, U.S. judges, U.S. intelligence, landed his staff in prison, banged a pornstar, and harasses dead American war heroes, all while trusting foreign dictators instead......and Republicans want him to be their leader. This speaks volumes about their self-esteem and regard for this country. In the near future, Trump will be universally seen as an evil domestic terrorist, and his voters will wear this Scarlett letter for the rest of their lives, or be forced to lie and hide. I canít help but pity the fools who want to be led by such a horrible person. What a nightmare that must be.
 

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Hereís a fact: An American man slandered the United States law enforcement, U.S. judges, U.S. intelligence, landed his staff in prison, banged a pornstar, and harasses dead American war heroes, all while trusting foreign dictators instead......and Republicans want him to be their leader. This speaks volumes about their self-esteem and regard for this country. In the near future, Trump will be universally seen as an evil domestic terrorist, and his voters will wear this Scarlett letter for the rest of their lives, or be forced to lie and hide. I canít help but pity the fools who want to be led by such a horrible person. What a nightmare that must be.


They "Like the way he talks"...

 

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DT doesnít just stand for his name. Itís also the abbreviation for what he is - a Domestic Terrorist.
 

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Slavery was an abomination. Period. But . . .





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Hereís a fact: An American man slandered the United States law enforcement, U.S. judges, U.S. intelligence, landed his staff in prison, banged a pornstar, and harasses dead American war heroes, all while trusting foreign dictators instead . . .


You are just saying that stuff because you are a Trump hater. The way to prove your love and loyalty is to love the sinner, not the sin. Trump is just kidding around when he does all those things, and the Left takes the bait every time.

 
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