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  posted on 11/19/2019 at 04:43 PM
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But how dare Trump ask Ukraine to look into


Why not have his own country, the United States of America, to investigate an American, to protect an American election? You all seem to be a bunch of traitors, having foreign governments do you dirty work on other Americans - that's all it is. Hate to break it to you. When you calm down, I'd love for you to explain what set you off. He's a Purple Heart who you've never heard of before, yet he is so under your skin that you've formed character judgments about him. Strange.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2019 at 05:41 PM
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They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020.


That explains why the Redhats are so overjoyed right now.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2019 at 06:28 PM
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You all seem to forget who works for who here. Vindman is no hero. He is insubordinate at best. He should be relieved of his duties, yes fired. So he doesn't agree with Trumps Policies. Quiting is the only honorable thing he could have done. Instead he will assist the dims with their effort to remove a President because he thinks the President's actions were inappropriate? INAPPROPRIATE the new high crime or misdemeanor?



You seem to forget that Vindman and all other US government employees loyalty should be to defend the US, not necessarily the president. I seem to remember when one of the generals criticized Obama we heard the Republicans cheer. Well, I never got the impression during the testimony that Vindman was out to get President Trump. He wrote the talking points for the president so the president could do a good job. He seemed to me to be a loyal American patriot, doing his job the best he could, and I never got the impression that he lied or tried to mislead.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2019 at 08:22 PM
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They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020.


That explains why the Redhats are so overjoyed right now.


As soon as I see evidence of a crime I will let you know

 

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  posted on 11/19/2019 at 08:47 PM
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They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020.


That explains why the Redhats are so overjoyed right now.


As soon as I see evidence of a crime I will let you know


You are so deep in the cult that there is NOTHING that Trump could do that you would consider a crime.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2019 at 08:58 PM
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They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020.


That explains why the Redhats are so overjoyed right now.


As soon as I see evidence of a crime I will let you know


So you are in the "investigation" business now?

You may want to read the below, as it might expand your horizons:

"You don't have to break a law to be impeached. Trump's defenders need a better argument.
The Founders made clear that an impeachable or convictable offense need not be a crime. Hamilton said it applied to 'the misconduct of public men.' "

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/28/abuse-of-power-enough-to- impeach-no-crimes-necessary-column/2479066001/


 

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  posted on 11/19/2019 at 09:28 PM
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You are so deep in the cult that there is NOTHING that Trump could do that you would consider a crime.


Just wait til Trump leaves office, for whatever reason - even if he rules until 2024 - there will be Redhats cracking all over the place as it becomes clear that democracy survived and the Thousand Year Trump Dynasty won't happen after all.

 

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Just wait til Trump leaves office, for whatever reason - even if he rules until 2024 - there will be Redhats cracking all over the place as it becomes clear that democracy survived and the Thousand Year Trump Dynasty won't happen after all.

There's always Barron.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2019 at 11:03 PM
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They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020.


That explains why the Redhats are so overjoyed right now.


As soon as I see evidence of a crime I will let you know
As soon as I see evidence of: Truth, competence, integrity, decency, I'll let you know.

 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 12:03 AM
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There's always Barron.



 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 06:43 AM
Bueller? Anyone on why he didn't ask his own country to conduct an investigation into the Bidens?
 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 09:23 AM
It’s amazing when you think about it, that Trump could’ve had everything. He could have been the most powerful president we’ve ever seen. But he did the one thing you can never get away with in this country. He challenged the United States to a fight. Any time in our history, we have destroyed those who have challenged us. For him to come in the office, and undermine every branch of our government and its workers, while recruiting help from foreign governments and praising dictators, crossed a line. And he’s going to pay severely for this by the controls we have in place to defeat tyranny or any other domestic terrorism. I think NY will put him behind bars in a orange jumpsuit whenever he leaves office.

He will probably win again, but he attracted too much heat to be able to do anything. Might as well pick someone new - his brand is stained badly. It’s history....on the wrong side.





[Edited on 11/20/2019 by Skydog32103]

 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 09:38 AM
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What you are saying is that you would be completely satisfied with a Democrat doing what Trump is accused of and has basically admitted. Right?
Correct. You don't impeach over policy differences. We had 2 1/2 years of Mueller investigating 2016 election interference, to no avail. But how dare Trump ask Ukraine to look into the EXACT same subject from a different angle.

Here is the thing - there are Democrats in the House that would rather take a dump in their own lunch buckets than vote to impeach Trump right before an election. So I KNOW Trump isn't going anywhere. It is questionable as to whether this thing even gets to the Senate. And if it does, 3 of the top candidates on the Dem side will have to take time off to participate. They are GAURANTEEING Trumps victory in 2020. I say they know they can't beat him anyway so WTH?

The truth will come out eventually and no doubt there will be some other urgent reason to get rid of Trump by any means other than an election.

"I'm afraid if we don't impeach this president that he will get re-elected" Rep AL Green (D)



There are all kinds of policy differences. So far, this is the only one known to involve a bribery scheme. To act like the inquiry is about a policy difference is a real stretch. Why are there not 300 impeachment inquiries? There are at least that many policy differences.

The interference wasn't just investigated by Mueller. All 17 of the US intelligence agencies have agreed that it was Russia. Dan Coates, Trump's own Director of National Intelligence has stated many times that it was Russia. The Ukraine "angle' is a conspiracy theory. I don't care if someone in Ukraine looks into it, but that should not be what our aid money to them is conditioned on.

Why would you want to get an 18th opinion from a foreign country? Do you not trust the guy that Trump hired to be the DNI originally? I am no fan of Dan Coates, but I think I would rather trust him over someone in Ukraine. Also, why are you okay with the president chasing conspiracy theories rather than "saving clean beautiful coal" or some other crazy promise to the voters?

 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 09:56 AM
Sondland is throwing everyone under the bus this morning...admitted there was extortion to get aid



 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 10:15 AM
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You all seem to forget who works for who here. Vindman is no hero. He is insubordinate at best. He should be relieved of his duties, yes fired. So he doesn't agree with Trumps Policies. Quiting is the only honorable thing he could have done. Instead he will assist the dims with their effort to remove a President because he thinks the President's actions were inappropriate? INAPPROPRIATE the new high crime or misdemeanor?

No time to list all of Obama's inappropriate moves, let alone Clintons. What is bad is these witnesses WILL NOT acknowledge that Trump has done more for Ukraine in 3 yrs than Obama did in 8. They just want him out of office and they know they don't have the votes to do it properly, VIA ELECTION.

"I'm afraid if we don't impeach this president that he will get re-elected" Rep AL Green (D)

[Edited on 11/19/2019 by KCJimmy]
Col.Vindman is a decorated Iraq war vet, a honorable and respectable American, the exact polar opposite of trump. So in your mind he should have just kept quiet and said nothing of the crimes he witnessed trump commit?. You and trump are both bottom feeders, traitorous weasels.

 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 10:36 AM
“Everyone was in the loop.”— Gordon Sondland

 

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Sondland just got to a core issue - Trump didn’t want the Biden investigation, just the *announcement* of the investigation: “(Pres. Zelensky) had to announce the investigations. He didn’t actually have to do them.”

Yep he just wanted gas to drive his engine during the campaign and use the media against Biden

Pops42 anyone who support DT is scum....the justifications for why I couldn't care less about. The fact that they like any of it speaks volumes to the lack of values, morals and ethics any of them have.

Remember they like the way he "Talks"....like a 3 year old having a tantrum

 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 11:41 AM
Very damaging testimony to Trump. This guy was obviously friends to Trump, and reminded me of Trump in many ways. The fact that they were primarily concerned with an announcement of an investigation, without actually having to do one, blows a hole in the argument that this was about corruption and not about getting dirt on a political rival.
 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 12:28 PM
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Sondland is throwing everyone under the bus this morning...admitted there was extortion to get aid




Sondland has a wise lawyer who must have told him now is the time to fess up. They saw what lying to Congress does - look at what happended to Roger Stone. Sondland decided he didn't want to share soap with Roger so he spoke the truth...finally.

I can only imagine Trump attacking him like the other attacks he does on a daily basis. Then it will be that Trump barely knows him. In the meantime, Rudy and Pompeo are fine guys.

 

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It’s amazing when you think about it, that Trump could’ve had everything. He could have been the most powerful president we’ve ever seen. [Edited on 11/20/2019 by Skydog32103]

No, his personality won't allow him to see opportunity and play a long game w/his ego in check. I still contend that Trump was as surprised as anyone (well, Melania was more surprised) that he won & he was completely unprepared to assume office. I actually thought he would resign in frustration after 2 weeks once he learned there were constraints on his power unlike his kingdom at Trump Tower. He simply cannot control himself nor take the advice of others who have actual expertise. He persists in his "stable genius" delusion & his only defense to criticism/accusations translates as paranoia.


 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 01:00 PM
Nunes is tRump's lap dog.

Nunes is almost as bad as tRump.

SAD!

 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 03:54 PM
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Sondland has a wise lawyer who must have told him now is the time to fess up. They saw what lying to Congress does - look at what happended to Roger Stone. Sondland decided he didn't want to share soap with Roger so he spoke the truth...finally.

Sondland seems to be a smart guy on his own. He's a SUCCESSFUL hotel owner (as opposed to Trump), money manager, and active Republic (w/a short foray for the Dems) and he's not blinded by Trump as so many of the others are. He could've easily decided that his 1/2 truths and amendments in previous testimony wasn't going to cut it & now is the time to not only fess up but note that his testimony, including today's, was hindered by a lack of documents he repeatedly requested but didn't receive from DJT. He, indeed, threw all of them, including Trump & Pence, under the bus. His contempt for Rudy Who? was palpable even in his written remarks.

Prior to getting into the swamp of the Trump administration - even as an off-site ambassador - he appeared respectable. Successful hotel portfolio, philanthropist, married to the same woman for decades w/2 kids, & solid State of Washington citizen. He's got more $ than Trump, a far better reputation, & isn't a career politician. He's exactly the kind of guy who can say "No, I'm not going to be ruined or jailed" for Trump because of his wealth & position. He's not like a lot of the others who need Trump for his "base" or political blessing. He can come out of this tainted but not ruined. His lawyers wrote an excellent opening statement that reminded everyone of his Holocaust roots straight thru to his "shock" at having a shyster like Rudy Who? meddling in foreign relations.

 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 04:12 PM
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. . .he did the one thing you can never get away with in this country. He challenged the United States to a fight.


And he tried to divide us. Won't happen.

 

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Pops42 anyone who support DT is scum....the justifications for why I couldn't care less about. The fact that they like any of it speaks volumes to the lack of values, morals and ethics any of them have.

Remember they like the way he "Talks"....like a 3 year old having a tantrum


I have to agree. If you think this guy is even remotely acceptable to be president, you have a real problem... no matter how bad you hate Hillary Clinton. He was not qualified and refuses to attempt to learn what it takes to do the job. He literally has a compulsion to lie and cheat.

 

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  posted on 11/20/2019 at 04:46 PM
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Sondland is throwing everyone under the bus this morning...admitted there was extortion to get aid




Sondland has a wise lawyer who must have told him now is the time to fess up. They saw what lying to Congress does - look at what happended to Roger Stone. Sondland decided he didn't want to share soap with Roger so he spoke the truth...finally.

I can only imagine Trump attacking him like the other attacks he does on a daily basis. Then it will be that Trump barely knows him. In the meantime, Rudy and Pompeo are fine guys.


Right on target and expected as with anyone in the Trump orbit who speaks truth against Trump. Of course Trump doesn't know him well. If Sondland would have backed Trump today, Trump would have claimed how close they were and that Sondland was an honorable man... just like Rudy, Lev Parnas, and Igor Fruman.

"President Donald Trump said Gordon Sondland “is not a man I know well,” as his ambassador to the European Union delivered bombshell testimony to the House impeachment panel Wednesday."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-i-dont-know-ambassador-gordon-so ndland-but-his-impeachment-testimony-proves-my-innocence

 
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