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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 02:43 PM
The more I think about it, Trump is definitely a jerk, but I think he is too smart to actually believe what he is saying. My problem isn't with him...it's the gullible and dysfunctional people who support him that is the scary part in all this.
 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 03:09 PM
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The more I think about it, Trump is definitely a jerk, but I think he is too smart to actually believe what he is saying. My problem isn't with him...it's the gullible and dysfunctional people who support him that is the scary part in all this.


That is an awfully large number of "dysfunctional" people and I would make the same argument on the other side....Bernie is reasonable and seems legit; the amount of people supporting Hillary seems to speak to the exact same "dysfunction"....all because her last name is Clinton. Is this not how G.W. Bush won twice?

The dumbing down rolls on.

Lord help us.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 03:29 PM
No comments about Trump vs. Cruz, Battle of the Wives?

 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 03:49 PM
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The more I think about it, Trump is definitely a jerk, but I think he is too smart to actually believe what he is saying. My problem isn't with him...it's the gullible and dysfunctional people who support him that is the scary part in all this.


That is an awfully large number of "dysfunctional" people and I would make the same argument on the other side....Bernie is reasonable and seems legit; the amount of people supporting Hillary seems to speak to the exact same "dysfunction"....all because her last name is Clinton. Is this not how G.W. Bush won twice?

The dumbing down rolls on.

Lord help us.
It seems you are the one dumbing things down BIG V "people are supporting her because her name is clinton" come on! say what you will, but she's the most qualified for the job.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 04:10 PM
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It's probably not accurate (or nice) to call Trump's followers feckless and impulsive.

I'll admit to the 'not nice' part but I think it is accurate, at least according to my observations. And since when did being nice become a requirement in WP political discussions?

 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 04:26 PM
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The more I think about it, Trump is definitely a jerk, but I think he is too smart to actually believe what he is saying. My problem isn't with him...it's the gullible and dysfunctional people who support him that is the scary part in all this.


That is an awfully large number of "dysfunctional" people and I would make the same argument on the other side....Bernie is reasonable and seems legit; the amount of people supporting Hillary seems to speak to the exact same "dysfunction"....all because her last name is Clinton. Is this not how G.W. Bush won twice?

The dumbing down rolls on.

Lord help us.


Will you support your premise from the policy standpoint? Details?

 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 04:29 PM
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No comments about Trump vs. Cruz, Battle of the Wives?


Yes...stay tuned.

Will probably show up on WWE Monday Night Raw since Trump is buds with Vince McMahon.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 05:22 PM
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No comments about Trump vs. Cruz, Battle of the Wives?


Yes...stay tuned.

Will probably show up on WWE Monday Night Raw since Trump is buds with Vince McMahon.

It's disgusting, and as an American it is embarrassing as the world looks on in disbelief.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 05:54 PM
As for the wife battle, it's a brilliant, yet classless, move on his part. If he is just making it all up, he wins because he plants the idea in his supporters' minds that there is something illegal/immoral in her past. And when he later states, "I'm not going to cross the line and reveal it", he creates a false sense of self-control that was never there in the first place.
 

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  posted on 3/24/2016 at 06:26 PM
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Yes...stay tuned.

Will probably show up on WWE Monday Night Raw since Trump is buds with Vince McMahon.

It's disgusting, and as an American it is embarrassing as the world looks on in disbelief.


Just shows how low Trump will go. Not too distant from his comments & attacks on Megyn Kelly. Nothing for him is off limits. Has nothing to do with policy, but since Trump really has little in the way of policies, this is typical of his strategy / shtick.

And make no mistake about it. Cruz is buying in & playing the game with Trump. Just listen to Ted's retorts. He's using all the TV time he can to play to his base and eat into Trumps.

The move & countermove are both calculated. The whole thing is disgusting. This is your GOP at work...be proud.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 08:36 AM
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No comments about Trump vs. Cruz, Battle of the Wives?


Whack the bee hive much there hawk ?

Why not tell us what you think ?

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 10:07 AM
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No comments about Trump vs. Cruz, Battle of the Wives?


Yes...stay tuned.

Will probably show up on WWE Monday Night Raw since Trump is buds with Vince McMahon.

It's disgusting, and as an American it is embarrassing as the world looks on in disbelief.


Just shows how low Trump will go. Not too distant from his comments & attacks on Megyn Kelly. Nothing for him is off limits. Has nothing to do with policy, but since Trump really has little in the way of policies, this is typical of his strategy / shtick.

And make no mistake about it. Cruz is buying in & playing the game with Trump. Just listen to Ted's retorts. He's using all the TV time he can to play to his base and eat into Trumps.

The move & countermove are both calculated. The whole thing is disgusting. This is your GOP at work...be proud.


I am not sure Cruz is an equal partner in all this. When Trump distracts Cruz or any of them with this kind of nonsense he always seems to come out ahead.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 10:30 AM
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Whack the bee hive much there hawk ?

Why not tell us what you think ?


I think it's a pathetic example of what the political arena has become. And, after years of hearing how men like Clinton or Obama have "denigrated the office" by appearing on TV shows, making a joke about this or that, mentioning things they shouldn't, etc...I, quite frankly, will never take any Republican seriously on the issue of the presumed expectations of Executive decorum ever again. Ever.

I also think it's quite hilarious that the "get off my lawn" crowd finds so much entertainment and inspiration from candidates in twitter battles over internet memes.

But what really stands out to me is that there seems to be this large number of moderate Republicans that somehow all of the sudden are acting like they have no idea how Trump happened. All of the sudden there's this angry, seething mass and the moderates have no idea who these people are.

At any rate, what they do know is that no matter how angry or unruly the seething mass is, they are all united in their deep dislike of anything considered even slightly left...so when someone they consider on that left even makes even the smallest of observations, they react and pounce defensively.

So there you go, pal. What do you think?

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 10:38 AM
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No comments about Trump vs. Cruz, Battle of the Wives?


Yes...stay tuned.

Will probably show up on WWE Monday Night Raw since Trump is buds with Vince McMahon.

It's disgusting, and as an American it is embarrassing as the world looks on in disbelief.


Just shows how low Trump will go. Not too distant from his comments & attacks on Megyn Kelly. Nothing for him is off limits. Has nothing to do with policy, but since Trump really has little in the way of policies, this is typical of his strategy / shtick.

And make no mistake about it. Cruz is buying in & playing the game with Trump. Just listen to Ted's retorts. He's using all the TV time he can to play to his base and eat into Trumps.

The move & countermove are both calculated. The whole thing is disgusting. This is your GOP at work...be proud.


Is it really that deep? I'm seeing a classic narcissist being entertained in the most fulfilling way any narcissist could possibly dream of. Trump says whatever he wants and it doesn't matter to the people that support him, and he knows it.

Looks to me like he's having a blast doing it. He's so far out of whack with the traditions of presidential campaigns that it's inspired some solid emotions and reactions:

-"He's not a politician, he tells it like it is (i.e., what I wanna hear), he's a business genius, he'll Make America Great Again!"
-"What a joke this guy is...but this isn't serious. He'll bail out at some point, ridiculousness like this can't last."
-"SECOND COMING OF HITLER!!!!!!!"

Then there's the bazillions of dollars in free pub the media has been handing him every minute. That plays in too.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 11:57 AM
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No comments about Trump vs. Cruz, Battle of the Wives?


Whack the bee hive much there hawk ?

Why not tell us what you think ?


I think it's a pathetic example of what the political arena has become. And, after years of hearing how men like Clinton or Obama have "denigrated the office" by appearing on TV shows, making a joke about this or that, mentioning things they shouldn't, etc...I, quite frankly, will never take any Republican seriously on the issue of the presumed expectations of Executive decorum ever again. Ever.

I also think it's quite hilarious that the "get off my lawn" crowd finds so much entertainment and inspiration from candidates in twitter battles over internet memes.

But what really stands out to me is that there seems to be this large number of moderate Republicans that somehow all of the sudden are acting like they have no idea how Trump happened. All of the sudden there's this angry, seething mass and the moderates have no idea who these people are.

At any rate, what they do know is that no matter how angry or unruly the seething mass is, they are all united in their deep dislike of anything considered even slightly left...so when someone they consider on that left even makes even the smallest of observations, they react and pounce defensively.

So there you go, pal. What do you think?

Nailed it.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 12:01 PM
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So there you go, pal. What do you think?


Well, Trump should have checked to see that it actually wasn't Cruz directly that he was responding to.

Yes, what gets lost is that Trump didn't start this little bicker, he was simply responding to an ad about his own wife, much like the dick joke at the debate.

Nonetheless, it doesn't make it right.

But let's face it, if Trump called whatever super pac that did put out the thing on his wife first, and said, "stop it," they wouldn't.

So Cruz should be the one to call said super pac and tell them to stop it, if he feels so passionate about it as we are led to believe by his retort.

I do not feel this level of dirty tactics is good by any means. What I feel has no bearing on what they will do.

I do think it is obvious or it should be by now, Trump can say and do whatever he wants and it won't sway his supporters.

I think Trump probably has tons and tons of "dirt" just laying in wait, to use if need be.

 

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Yes, what gets lost is that Trump didn't start this little bicker, he was simply responding to an ad about his own wife, much like the dick joke at the debate.

Maybe the reason it "gets lost" is because of this:
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Nonetheless, it doesn't make it right.


 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 12:28 PM
Maybe, but I don't think so.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 12:35 PM
And Bhawk - which is worse :

-a sitting President getting a blowjob in the Oval Office or
-a candidate saying tacky stuff ?

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 01:03 PM
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And Bhawk - which is worse :

-a sitting President getting a blowjob in the Oval Office or
-a candidate saying tacky stuff ?

You didn't ask me but it's a public forum so I'll chime in. Both represent unacceptable behavior for a candidate or office holder. It would be wrong to use one to try to justify the other.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 01:25 PM
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No comments about Trump vs. Cruz, Battle of the Wives?


Yes...stay tuned.

Will probably show up on WWE Monday Night Raw since Trump is buds with Vince McMahon.

It's disgusting, and as an American it is embarrassing as the world looks on in disbelief.


Just shows how low Trump will go. Not too distant from his comments & attacks on Megyn Kelly. Nothing for him is off limits. Has nothing to do with policy, but since Trump really has little in the way of policies, this is typical of his strategy / shtick.

And make no mistake about it. Cruz is buying in & playing the game with Trump. Just listen to Ted's retorts. He's using all the TV time he can to play to his base and eat into Trumps.

The move & countermove are both calculated. The whole thing is disgusting. This is your GOP at work...be proud.


I am not sure Cruz is an equal partner in all this. When Trump distracts Cruz or any of them with this kind of nonsense he always seems to come out ahead.


You are correct. Just to clarify - I didn't imply that Cruz is an equal partner. Fact is no one will ever be an equal partner in Trump's never ending mind games & strategies. What I was attempting to say was that Cruz used the opportunity to do battle with Trump on this. It was a way of getting more free press and media attention for Cruz in attempts to stand up to Donald & be seen as "strong".

In the end, Cruz was asked if he will support Trump if Trump is the candidate. For the umpteenth time Cruise walked around the issue and never answered the question. I mean...enough is enough with that stupid pledge. How can any of the candidates and former candidates support Trump with everything Trump has said & tweeted. And it's really not about HC or BS here. It's all about Trump.

 

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And Bhawk - which is worse :

-a sitting President getting a blowjob in the Oval Office or
-a candidate saying tacky stuff ?

You didn't ask me but it's a public forum so I'll chime in. Both represent unacceptable behavior for a candidate or office holder. It would be wrong to use one to try to justify the other.


You know what, forget I asked this question, I don't care.

Yes both are unacceptable.

I should've refrained from typing.

In the Easter spirit, you all have a great weekend !

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 01:52 PM
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But let's face it, if Trump called whatever super pac that did put out the thing on his wife first, and said, "stop it," they wouldn't.

So Cruz should be the one to call said super pac and tell them to stop it, if he feels so passionate about it as we are led to believe by his retort.


Neither one of them can "coordinate" with any super pac. It's against the law.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 01:55 PM
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And Bhawk - which is worse :

-a sitting President getting a blowjob in the Oval Office or
-a candidate saying tacky stuff ?


I've just never seen that much wrong with getting a blowjob. Is it just me?

Is it where it happened that makes it so heinous?

 

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  posted on 3/25/2016 at 02:14 PM
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And Bhawk - which is worse :

-a sitting President getting a blowjob in the Oval Office or
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I've just never seen that much wrong with getting a blowjob. Is it just me?

Is it where it happened that makes it so heinous?

Even Clinton knew it was wrong. That's why he lied about it. A book could be written about everything that was wrong with it. There would chapters on infidelity, committing perjury in a sexual harassment lawsuit, national security issues raised by behaving in a way for which you could be blackmailed, lying to staff and supporters, and generally lowering the expectations of behavior for national leaders. Much of the muck in the current election cycle can be traced back to the example set by Bill Clinton.

 

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